Chhattisgarh Naxal Attack: CRPF Martyrs' Uniforms Insulted

[janon]

Why not take a positive lesson from Sri Lanka rather than Pakistan?

Remember Naxalite movement isn't about freedom; it is also no longer about land allocation; it is lust for power.

Comparing Pakistan's situation to ours is simply foolish. The nature of trouble there funnels from something else while the Naxal problem has nothing to do with a problem of that nature.

It is no longer a force 'for the poor'.

It has morphed into a terrorist organization that kills not just troops but also civilians.

The intentions of the outfit (whether they are working for the pooor, or to grab power for themselves) is not the criterion. The armed forces themselves have been very apprehensive about being deployed in CI missions against Maoists, and for good reason - they will lose their warfighting skills if they are mired in CI. That is why the regular army doesn't even do CI against Kashmiri terrorists, and raised a separate force (RR) for the same.

Besides, tanks, arty and airpower can do nothing if you don't know where to drop the bombs. If the enemy lives among the people in civilian clothes, airpower or tanks cannot differentiate friend from foe. These maoist cadre, in their regular hours, work among the population. They are not a conventional army wearing uniforms and holding static lines. If that was the case, gunships and arty can pound their positions. But for geurilla warfare within our territory, the only way to counter it is the way we are doing.

Also, calling the army for internal duties is a slippery slope. Do you want govts to have that power? In future, if a govt in power uses the armed forces to crush political opposition, would you be OK with that?

As for SL, note that the 4th ealam war was a conventional war - the LTTE was ruling the east of SL. They had their own armed forces, area under their control, civil administration etc. It was a war between west SL and the easternmost part, so to speak. The LTTE was not living among Sri Lankan population and doing guerilla war.

If Andhra had pussyfooted like how Chhatisgarh, Bihar and Jharkhand are doing, then they would have never let Greyhounds brutally finish off Maoists in their state.

And there you have it - it is a unit of the state police that eliminated naxalism, not tanks or airpower.

An NDTV show about the topic. As I expected, the country is more outraged by the insult to the uniform, than the deaths of 16 policemen:

Uniforms Dumped in Garbage: Do We Care For Our Martyrs?

 

[Tshering22]

The intentions of the outfit (whether they are working for the pooor, or
to grab power for themselves) is not the criterion.

See, the point is, they are doing the same thing jihadists are doing: causing danger to our countrymen.

Be it civilians or soldiers, the final result is the same.

There is no development because there is no one to invest and since there is no one to invest due to security reasons, there is no one with a proper job there. Hence the cycle of poverty and terrorism continue.

The armed forces themselves have been very apprehensive about being deployed in CI missions against Maoists, and for good reason - they will lose their warfighting skills if they are mired in CI. That is why the regular army doesn't even do CI against Kashmiri terrorists, and raised a separate force (RR) for the same.

The RR have lethal training on the levels of Army, who are hardened to crush terrorism. They have dwelled in the worst of urban warfare scenarios in J&K and have gone through hell to do so. They can also call for IFVs if needed in the worst case scenario if needed. Being under MOD rather than MHA, they have the power to take combat to the next level if shyt hits the fan.

CRPF is limited in a lot more ways. They are powerful to quell short term threats but remember; Naxalite terrorism started more than 35 years ago. Initially meant to support the rights of some poor people, it became full fledged terrorism in the later years and now is on the lines of LeT.

It is just that this is not a religion-based terrorism so media doesn't highlight the gravity of their brutality against innocent villagers, farmers and families of jawans.

Besides, tanks, arty and airpower can do nothing if you don't know where to drop the bombs. If the enemy lives among the people in civilian clothes, airpower or tanks cannot differentiate friend from foe. These maoist cadre, in their regular hours, work among the population. They are not a conventional army wearing uniforms and holding static lines. If that was the case, gunships and arty can pound their positions. But for geurilla warfare within our territory, the only way to counter it is the way we are doing.

I know there are many sleeper units that support and sympathize with the naxalite movement; but htat is where the state intelligence agency comes into play. Hardore data and intel gathering that has been going for years; political affiliates, media personalities, famous people, labour union leaders, etc all have someone involved with these scum which is what keeps their support alive.

Surely IB and CBI will have intel on them which we civilians don't know. If given full charge, maoists can be centered around some jungles, isolated and then obliterated.

It has to be a very serious, very huge and very secretive operation.

Also, calling the army for internal duties is a slippery slope. Do you want govts to have that power? In future, if a govt in power uses the armed forces to crush political opposition, would you be OK with that?

You are comparing Maoists with the opposition of a country? Even today, if President orders, the military chief cannot refuse. They can advise but if it were a 'just do it' order, they will be bound to do it once cleared from the centre.

You are over-imagining it in a leftist fashion now.

As for SL, note that the 4th ealam war was a conventional war - the LTTE was ruling the east of SL. They had their own armed forces, area under their control, civil administration etc. It was a war between west SL and the easternmost part, so to speak. The LTTE was not living among Sri Lankan population and doing guerilla war.

Then you clearly don't know that these red belts have some of the richest resources of India and are mired in a hellish mess.

And there you have it - it is a unit of the state police that eliminated naxalism, not tanks or airpower.

They succeeded. MHA isn't against the existing forces.

Which means we need a bigger element of assault here.

 

[Areesh]

I have also read somewhere that one injured soldier from this attack crawled back to his camp a few kilometers away from the attack side. The poor guy wasn't provided proper medical treatment and he later died in front of his colleagues hours later.

 

[Koovie]

And still some leftist LOSERS say that no Army action is needed to kill these communist savages.

Naxalites should be dealt with with tanks, gunships, fighter jets and IFVs. Not rifle wielding CRPF soldiers who are underarmed and underprovided, and on top of that, get insulted by an increasingly soft state government.

WTF is wrong with Raman Singh? Why is he so soft on Naxals?

Because
A.) You cant use the Armed Forces within the country easily.
B.) The danger of killing civilians with tanks (Who uses tanks in forests and jungles anyways? ) and fighter jets is way too dangerous. Thats why the IAF itself stated that it has no interest in bombing Maoists within our country. Conducting bombing runs within the country is an extremely dangerous thing to do.
C.) The Armed Forces are not needed to fight Maoists. The CRPF should be more than capable of handling them... but due to utter stupidity and ignorance among the CRPF and political leadership and bad tactics, training and equipment the CRPF is suffering such huge losses from time to time.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Kashmir is still an unresolved conflict with limited freedom for any Indian to travel there.

What solved it there was AFSPA. Are you saying that we should implement AFSPA in Chhatisgarh? Then it has to be implemented in Chhatisgarh, Jharkhand and Bihar together because these states together constitute a significant part of naxalite terror.

Keep this image of 'poor and oppressed' and we will continue to lose more young and precious men.

These filth deserve no mercy.

Why should we let these vermin live when our own families are dying daily in the form of troops? Remember those 16 soldiers took 16 families along with them. Who will answer them?

Who will educate, take care and feed their kids?

Weren't they also from villages of India?

Sorry dude, but SL and many other coutnries have faced and crushed communist terror that was created by 'its own people'.

We need to harden up or we will never move beyond this.

If Andhra had pussyfooted like how Chhatisgarh, Bihar and Jharkhand are doing, then they would have never let Greyhounds brutally finish off Maoists in their state.

How can you deny the fact that insurgency in kashmir has reduced a lot since ninties. The number of insurgency-related deaths in the state have fallen sharply in last 7/8 years. My point was we achieved this success without using tanks & fighter jets.
The attitude of comparing our deprived & oppressed classes with filth will only escalate this menace of naxalism instead of diminishing it. Remember I am not supporting anyone & I am totally against naxalism & their violence. But roasting them with bombs & missiles is not the solution.
Remember what happened last time when we used army with tanks & APCs against our own people in Golden Temple in 1984. That blunder resulted in assassination of PM, genocide of sikhs, & 10 year long insurgency in Punjab.
Now on your example of SL . I agree SL successfully removed insurgency by using harsh tactics but it destroyed their image on international level. UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) passed a US-sponsored resolution calling for an international investigation into human rights violations in Sri Lanka during the Colombo government’s war against the separatist Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and related war crimes. It was a warning to Rajapakse that he and other senior government and military figures could find themselves charged with war crimes.
Is that what you want , to destroy our democratic & peaceful image on international level ?
Again I will say that this problem cannot be solved without political will power of center & state governments. CRPF & state police can handle this situation. But they lack adequate support from both central & state goverments.
How can you expect result from a demoralised force whose martyrs get insulted like this ?

 

[Tshering22]

How can you deny the fact that insurgency in kashmir has reduced a lot since ninties. The number of insurgency-related deaths in the state have fallen sharply in last 7/8 years. My point was we achieved this success without using tanks & fighter jets.

I am denying nothing. Just telling that in J&K, AFSPA gave free hand to army units to raid and hunt out terrorists and threats to the country. Also, if you didn't know, Army had IFVs deployed there including armored jeeps with heavy machine guns on them.

It wasn't tanks but that's what was suited for in Himalayan terrain. Mind you, the military went in there with full force. No one approach is right. It takes a mixed approach.

With naxals, we are too soft. We do nothing close to the scale we did in J&K.

If we even do a third of what we did in Kashmir, then there would be no communist terror today.

The attitude of comparing our deprived & oppressed classes with filth will only escalate this menace of naxalism instead of diminishing it. Remember I am not supporting anyone & I am totally against naxalism & their violence. But roasting them with bombs & missiles is not the solution.

There are thousands of poor in many states across India.

You don't see them using guns and killing people.

If that was the solution everyone would have taken guns and become rich.

Maoists are nothing more than terrorists with leftists and similar wannabe intellectuals sympathizing with them.

For years, all our government groups have encouraged them to come to mainstream using peaceful means.

Time to use firepower against them, WHILE we maintain an option of peaceful surrender.

Remember what happened last time when we used army with tanks & APCs against our own people in Golden Temple in 1984. That blunder resulted in assassination of PM, genocide of sikhs, & 10 year long insurgency in Punjab.
Now on your example of SL . I agree SL successfully removed insurgency by using harsh tactics but it destroyed their image on international level. UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) passed a US-sponsored resolution calling for an international investigation into human rights violations in Sri Lanka during the Colombo government’s war against the separatist Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and related war crimes. It was a warning to Rajapakse that he and other senior government and military figures could find themselves charged with war crimes.
Is that what you want , to destroy our democratic & peaceful image on international level ?

Khali-stani terrorism was similar to what is happening in J&K. Genocide in Delhi then was a consequence of a political party unleashing their stooges and animals on innocent people.

Operation Blue Star was just planned badly.

Please don't compare that with this.

This is not religious terrorism and separatism; it is something totally different.

Again I will say that this problem cannot be solved without political will power of center & state governments. CRPF & state police can handle this situation. But they lack adequate support from both central & state goverments.
How can you expect result from a demoralised force whose martyrs get insulted like this ?

Bro, my family serves in the military. Not CRPF but in various units of the Army and the Navy. To me and all those Indians whose families are in military, are family. For us, losing one soldier is like losing someone in our family.

How long do we have to see our troops dying?

You tell me.

 

[janon]

See, the point is, they are doing the same thing jihadists are doing: causing danger to our countrymen.

Be it civilians or soldiers, the final result is the same.

There is no development because there is no one to invest and since there is no one to invest due to security reasons, there is no one with a proper job there. Hence the cycle of poverty and terrorism continue.
...

Nobody is disputing the fact that the maoist menace needs to be crushed - for the reasons you mentioned, and more. The only question is whether to involve the armed forces or not, in tackling an internal issue.

The RR have lethal training on the levels of Army, who are hardened to crush terrorism. They have dwelled in the worst of urban warfare scenarios in J&K and have gone through hell to do so. They can also call for IFVs if needed in the worst case scenario if needed. Being under MOD rather than MHA, they have the power to take combat to the next level if shyt hits the fan.

Actually the RR is under the command of the MHA, as is the Assam rifles. The principle being that internal issues should be the responsibility of the interior ministry, or home ministry as we call it.

I know there are many sleeper units that support and sympathize with the naxalite movement; but htat is where the state intelligence agency comes into play. Hardore data and intel gathering that has been going for years; political affiliates, media personalities, famous people, labour union leaders, etc all have someone involved with these scum which is what keeps their support alive.

The CBI is not an intelligence agency - its sole purpose is investigation of crimes. The IB and police forces are supposed to collect domestic intelligence. Again, you would notice that even though we have a fantastic intel agency in RAW, we created a separate intel agency (IB) for internal intel gathering. Why do you think that is? The IB shares intel with police forces, while RAW shares external intel with the military.

Then you clearly don't know that these red belts have some of the richest resources of India and are mired in a hellish mess.

That's besides the point. The point there was that in the 4th Ealam war, the SL army was fighting a conventional war with a nation state (the Ealam). They were not countering irregular war. Here we are facing an enemy that does not move in large formations, does not live within military fortifications, does not have static lines, in short, does not behave like a conventional army. They are insurgents, living with our people. Such threats are best tackled by the police forces, not the army.

We have the right tool for the job - the CRPF. The only question is whether we will use it in the right way. So far, we have not done so.

 

[bipi@342]

Again, you would notice that even though we have a fantastic intel agency in RAW, we created a separate intel agency (IB) for internal intel gathering.

i think RAW created out of IB after 1962 war

 

[vk17]

It is indeed a shameful act on behalf of the state administration!!The martyrs deserve much more respect from us but it seems that the Govt. simply doesn't care!!
Anyways,Sir can you please explain what exactly went wrong in this case??I mean did the Maoists get prior intelligence of the CRPF troop movement or was it a spontaneous retaliatory attack by a desperate Maoist leadership due to the large no. of surrenders in the recent month??Plus i read it some where that some CRPF officers claimed that at least 8 rebels were killed but their bodies were dragged by their comrades,is it true??

Chintagufa, Sukma where the incident took place is a actual war zone. SP Sukma went to Chintagufa last month first time after 12 years, after huge pressure by media. So you can guess about support they render to CRPF.

CRPF is fighting this war now because it takes naxalism as challenge to itself.

Chintagufa is a liberated zone. Entire population is naxalite. Naxals have killed those refused to support them so rest of population supports. Hundred of villages they all are naxal. This makes strength of naxals in thousands.

Incident Details-
A Village Kasalpara near Elmagunda, Chintagufa was cordoned off for search of weapons and naxals in the village. But like always all male members from village had fled with weapon before CRPFs arrival. After search, party of 600 CRPF men alongwith 2 teams of COBRA started withdrawing from village in a single file (line), Such huge number of force personnel makes this line as long as 3 km when they walk in a file, COBRA team was leading this file . Last party was of 60 men of 223 BN CRPF was in tail end and some of their men were still in village periphery. Last 30 mens were suddenly cut off from rest of party after about 500 naxals attacked them. A barrage of bullets from LMGs of naxals came form atop a hill and also from behind from village.

In the first fire only DC B.K. Verma who was leading from last, got hit by 5 bullets, he along with 10 men succumbed due to fatal bullet injury. He was injured and lying on ground. Immediately AC Rajesh Kapuria who was leading from front of 223 Bn, came back running to rescue his senior Mr. Verma. He dragged him few mtrs before he was shot 3 bullets in back and one in neck. He too fell down there only, several other men injured in rescuing their fellows. By then total chaos was there. Naxals firing from village ran towards fallen soldiers who were in end of the line and ran away with their belongings.

Rest of main party was cut off from 223 Bn men entirely due to heavy fire from naxal LMGs, from all sides on that narrow path through which they were passing. CRPF men LMGs then started roaring towards the hills from where naxals were firing.. Hundred of UBGL rounds, mortar bombs and many Rockets from Rocket Launchers were fired on those hills, then fire from that hill stopped. But till then damage was done. We had 14 Shaheeds.

With amount of fire you can imagine how much injury and fatalities they would have incurred but their comrades always run away with their bodies

 

[janon]

Chintagufa, Sukma where the incident took place is a actual war zone. SP Sukma went to Chintagufa last month first time after 12 years, after huge pressure by media. So you can guess about support they render to CRPF.

CRPF is fighting this war now because it takes naxalism as challenge to itself.

Chintagufa is a liberated zone. Entire population is naxalite. Naxals have killed those refused to support them so rest of population supports. Hundred of villages they all are naxal. This makes strength of naxals in thousands.

Incident Details-
A Village Kasalpara near Elmagunda, Chintagufa was cordoned off for search of weapons and naxals in the village. But like always all male members from village had fled with weapon before CRPFs arrival. After search, party of 600 CRPF men alongwith 2 teams of COBRA started withdrawing from village in a single file (line), Such huge number of force personnel makes this line as long as 3 km when they walk in a file, COBRA team was leading this file . Last party was of 60 men of 223 BN CRPF was in tail end and some of their men were still in village periphery. Last 30 mens were suddenly cut off from rest of party after about 500 naxals attacked them. A barrage of bullets from LMGs of naxals came form atop a hill and also from behind from village.

In the first fire only DC B.K. Verma who was leading from last, got hit by 5 bullets, he along with 10 men succumbed due to fatal bullet injury. He was injured and lying on ground. Immediately AC Rajesh Kapuria who was leading from front of 223 Bn, came back running to rescue his senior Mr. Verma. He dragged him few mtrs before he was shot 3 bullets in back and one in neck. He too fell down there only, several other men injured in rescuing their fellows. By then total chaos was there. Naxals firing from village ran towards fallen soldiers who were in end of the line and ran away with their belongings.

Rest of main party was cut off from 223 Bn men entirely due to heavy fire from naxal LMGs, from all sides on that narrow path through which they were passing. CRPF men LMGs then started roaring towards the hills from where naxals were firing.. Hundred of UBGL rounds, mortar bombs and many Rockets from Rocket Launchers were fired on those hills, then fire from that hill stopped. But till then damage was done. We had 14 Shaheeds.

With amount of fire you can imagine how much injury and fatalities they would have incurred but their comrades always run away with their bodies

Is it possible to have aerial surveillance when such large numbers of troops are on the move, so as to avoid being attacked in this manner?

 

[vk17]

@Tshering22 @axisofevil

Bro!! You guys are hugely ill informed about CRPF. Because you have pre-conceived notion about CRPF, created by army spokesperson.

"We in CRPF, laugh, when we see any so called Ex- Army defense expert tells about naxal area. Where he had never done a ops or not even seen any naxal area."

Army expert demean other forces work especially CRPFs because they don't have any of their own ops achievements. They know if they will let CRPFs work highlight, and CRPF will have their say in internal security matter. Niether Army nor IPS lobby wants this.

If I will meet these experts I would ask them about what happened to Army's training and capability in Kargil Vijay... was it victory or compromised loss, well managed by media?? 100 lives daily, only because Army was feeling too cold to do patrol in winters in its own post. I will ask about Losing of entire Army brigades in Naga ambushes in Nagaland, I will ask about mens killed in thousands in Srilanka war, I want you people to get to the reality of 5-6 armymen and RR being killed in killing 1-2 militants in Kashmir.

Army is deployed in Kashmir and NE since decades, has anything improved...I would only say let the things be curtained let it be, its good for our country also.

Have you ever heard of a naxal being killed by CRPF, though you will have all national media highlighting CRPFs men killed. Thanks to Media Communication Centre of CRPF, run by an IPS, who will never let a positive news about being CRPF being aired.

Take example of Kashmir floods, had you seen any CRPF rescue effort news whereas there are 26 BN (26000 mens) of CRPF deployed in Srinagar and downtown area only, leave entire Kashmir deployment. All these CRPF men were involved in flood rescue and relief work but all praises were given to Army only.

Its weaponry is much more equipped than any CI units in India or world (Please don't include field weapons like MBRLs, or Canons). Better than any Army Infantry units. Almost all personnel have new AKs( best CI op weapon of the world), many UBGL (Under Barrel Grenade Launcher), X- 95, Insas, AGS (Automatic Grenade Launcher), 80mm and 51 mm mortar, MMGs, LMGs, Glock Pistol (Half of your beloved army men would not have even seen it), Grenades, and much more.

CRPF training is imparted by utmost discipline and rigor. Unlike army men who are usually 8th passed, most of CRPF soldiers are graduates and qualify through SSC.

Training level are much more advance than other forces, because need is mother of invention. Most of CRPF men use of modern gadgets like GPS, Maverick and ORUX for navigation unlike other forces who still uses Maps and compass for navigation. Even a soilder of CRPF can navigate back to his camp using his smart phone GPS from jungles. All anti naxal ops are planned on TERA Explorer or Google Earth. Briefing is done on Google Earth using projectors and screens.

Till date thousand of naxals are being killed but since no body is being recovered official number is limited to hundred only.

I want here army fan or people from army background understand that Army's morale should be kept high but not by demeaning other forces work, but by making their work to talk and show that they are better.

Is it possible to have aerial surveillance when such large numbers of troops are on the move, so as to avoid being attacked in this manner?

No sir, it is not. As naxals mostly hide in dense jungles and therefore even thermal imagery of UAVs is of no use.

Actually their no full proof way to avoid such attacks. Only way is inflicting maximum casualties to naxals on such attacks, to discourage them for any such misadventure in future.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

@Tshering22 @axisofevil

Bro!! You guys are hugely ill informed about CRPF. Because you have pre-conceived notion about CRPF, created by army spokesperson.

"We in CRPF, laugh, when we see any so called Ex- Army defense expert tells about naxal area. Where he had never done a ops or not even seen any naxal area."

Army expert demean other forces work especially CRPFs because they don't have any of their own ops achievements. They know if they will let CRPFs work highlight, and CRPF will have their say in internal security matter. Niether Army nor IPS lobby wants this.

If I will meet these experts I would ask them about what happened to Army's training and capability in Kargil Vijay... was it victory or compromised loss, well managed by media?? 100 lives daily, only because Army was feeling too cold to do patrol in winters in its own post. I will ask about Losing of entire Army brigades in Naga ambushes in Nagaland, I will ask about mens killed in thousands in Srilanka war, I want you people to get to the reality of 5-6 armymen and RR being killed in killing 1-2 militants in Kashmir.

Army is deployed in Kashmir and NE since decades, has anything improved...I would only say let the things be curtained let it be, its good for our country also.

Have you ever heard of a naxal being killed by CRPF, though you will have all national media highlighting CRPFs men killed. Thanks to Media Communication Centre of CRPF, run by an IPS, who will never let a positive news about being CRPF being aired.

Take example of Kashmir floods, had you seen any CRPF rescue effort news whereas there are 26 BN (26000 mens) of CRPF deployed in Srinagar and downtown area only, leave entire Kashmir deployment. All these CRPF men were involved in flood rescue and relief work but all praises were given to Army only.

Its weaponry is much more equipped than any CI units in India or world (Please don't include field weapons like MBRLs, or Canons). Better than any Army Infantry units. Almost all personnel have new AKs( best CI op weapon of the world), many UBGL (Under Barrel Grenade Launcher), X- 95, Insas, AGS (Automatic Grenade Launcher), 80mm and 51 mm mortar, MMGs, LMGs, Glock Pistol (Half of your beloved army men would not have even seen it), Grenades, and much more.

CRPF training is imparted by utmost discipline and rigor. Unlike army men who are usually 8th passed, most of CRPF soldiers are graduates and qualify through SSC.

Training level are much more advance than other forces, because need is mother of invention. Most of CRPF men use of modern gadgets like GPS, Maverick and ORUX for navigation unlike other forces who still uses Maps and compass for navigation. Even a soilder of CRPF can navigate back to his camp using his smart phone GPS from jungles. All anti naxal ops are planned on TERA Explorer or Google Earth. Briefing is done on Google Earth using projectors and screens.

Till date thousand of naxals are being killed but since no body is being recovered official number is limited to hundred only.

I want here army fan or people from army background understand that Army's morale should be kept high but not by demeaning other forces work, but by making their work to talk and show that they are better.



No sir, it is not. As naxals mostly hide in dense jungles and therefore even thermal imagery of UAVs is of no use.

Actually their no full proof way to avoid such attacks. Only way is inflicting maximum casualties to naxals on such attacks, to discourage them for any such misadventure in future.

Are you CRPF officer ? serving or retired ?

 

[zootinali]

Might be some misunderstanding ..if the uniforms are blood stained, will be considered bio hazard material and will be sent for incineration. The hospital will not keep it.

 

[axisofevil]

Nobody is disputing the fact that the maoist menace needs to be crushed - for the reasons you mentioned, and more. The only question is whether to involve the armed forces or not, in tackling an internal issue.


Actually the RR is under the command of the MHA, as is the Assam rifles. The principle being that internal issues should be the responsibility of the interior ministry, or home ministry as we call it.



The CBI is not an intelligence agency - its sole purpose is investigation of crimes. The IB and police forces are supposed to collect domestic intelligence. Again, you would notice that even though we have a fantastic intel agency in RAW, we created a separate intel agency (IB) for internal intel gathering. Why do you think that is? The IB shares intel with police forces, while RAW shares external intel with the military.



That's besides the point. The point there was that in the 4th Ealam war, the SL army was fighting a conventional war with a nation state (the Ealam). They were not countering irregular war. Here we are facing an enemy that does not move in large formations, does not live within military fortifications, does not have static lines, in short, does not behave like a conventional army. They are insurgents, living with our people. Such threats are best tackled by the police forces, not the army.

We have the right tool for the job - the CRPF. The only question is whether we will use it in the right way. So far, we have not done so.

CRPF is not equipped and trained to fight the Maoists. They are cannon fodder for the Maoists.

 

[janon]

CRPF is not equipped and trained to fight the Maoists. They are cannon fodder for the Maoists.

On what basis do you come to such a conclusion? CRPF is in fact the only force in India that has been trained to fight maoists. Nobody else has been specifically trained for that purpose - not the army, navy, air force, coast guard, ITBP, BSF, SSB...

There is already a serving member of the CRPF commenting on this thread, so I will leave it to him to explain.