Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Deino]

Do Indian boys want to know how the J-20 are built ? I will give you a hint...

Henri K.

Funny ... but isn't this a FC-31 mock-up ?

 

[cirr]

J-20 cockpit display(9x24inch) touch screen voice controlled

http://cn-jxnc-dx-v-03.acgvideo.com...007809&nfa=fEJR5SwTufBq6SzosbG8Uw==&dynamic=1

 

[Deino]

J-20 cockpit display(9x24inch) touch screen voice controlled

http://cn-jxnc-dx-v-03.acgvideo.com/vg3/c/67/12203377-1.mp4?expires=1481395800&ssig=46Fi10mkUd_Vq39IWgxikA&oi=3060007809&nfa=fEJR5SwTufBq6SzosbG8Uw==&dynamic=1

But given the weapons configuration, isn't this more likely a J-16 ?

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

But given the weapons configuration, isn't this more likely a J-16 ?

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the wordings in the video already stated it's J-20's cockpit- and no, i dont think the reporter has an incentive to misreport the cockpit in the video as J-20's when it's not.

 

[Asoka]

Sorry, but that's off again: To compare a single engine type with a twin engine one is simply off.
That's difficult do conclude since so far only four J-10 were equipped with the WS-10 for test, so there's no comparison possible with the twin engined Flankers unsing the WS-10. If You want a decent comparison, You need to compare crashes of AL-31-equipped Flankers with WS-10-equipped Flankers and not AL-31-equipped J-10s with WS-10-equipped Flankers.





We are perfectly aware of how many J-10B/C are using the AL-31: exactly all but the two final batch 01 aircraft (aka 1-54 & 1-55).


Deino

The issue is, there is a fatal flaw in the design of AL-31's central axel lubrication system. There is a tendency for BOTH engines to seize under certain conditions. It's not fixable. That's why China wants to step away from it.

But given the weapons configuration, isn't this more likely a J-16 ?

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http://www.fyjs.cn/thread-1848857-1-1.html

I am sorry to say, this voice control asking for confirmation is really lame. It takes way too long. Aerial combat is not like you are leisurely cruising on a scenic highway, and you calmly ask the computer to change the radio channel for you.

It should be you speak a command, and an icon or the target flashes, and you simply say "Confirm" or "Fire".

And for God's sake, don't copy F-35's display system. It's really lame. Grow some brains and and do some serious thinking, and then come up something vastly better like the J-20. I hated when the Chinese simply copy. It give us all a bad name.

Fictional or not, I still find the Firefox has the best and most intelligent layout.

Also the display should not be vertical but inclined at a certain angle for easier viewing. Have many button, so you can get to a command easily and quickly, instead of having navigate through a series of menus.

An inclined display.

An highly intelligent and easy to use interface is probably the hardest thing for a nerdy engineer to get it right. The kind of designer who can get it right probably needs to have an artistic touch.

 

[帅的一匹]

If J20 can be totally controlled by voice control, we still need a super computer. @Asok in BVR scenario, the delay in voice control confirmation won't matter lots. It help pilotes stick with HOTAS.. Don't forget we have also have HMS. J20 is of course world class. That's why the Jane defence listed it as second best fighter on this planet.

Do Indian boys want to know how the J-20 are built ? I will give you a hint...

Henri K.

haha, it makes my day.

The test pilotes will help the engineer to decide how they put the display in a user oriented way. What China lacks is the user experience in real combat.

 

[Asoka]

If J20 can be totally controlled by voice control, we still need a super computer. @Asok in BVR scenario, the delay in voice control confirmation won't matter lots. It help pilotes stick with HOTAS.. Don't forget we have also have HMS. J20 is of course world class. That's why the Jane defence listed it as second best fighter on this planet.


haha, it makes my day.

The test pilotes will help the engineer to decide how they put the display in a user oriented way. What China lacks is the user experience in real combat.

Long delay means instant death in actual combat. Push a button on the Joy stick is still probably the fast way to fire, when the target is locked on, and the missile is ready to go. No need to speak a command, the Computer ask for confirmation, and then confirm. It should not end up like Voice Activated Helpline, or a stupid self check out machine at the supermarket that asks a million questions and requires a million confirmation.
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When I saw the video, I know the Chinese engineers don't have much clues on what they are doing. It's a straight copy of F-35's lame display.

But given the weapons configuration, isn't this more likely a J-16 ?

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It looks really lame and thoughtless, just like the F-35's display. The same kind of thoughtless thinking that went into FC-31. I bet and hope no one will buy this junk. It gives a bad name to Chinese manufacturing.

the wordings in the video already stated it's J-20's cockpit- and no, i dont think the reporter has an incentive to misreport the cockpit in the video as J-20's when it's not.

Chinese TV's reporters are really lame about military technology. I won't be surprise they were wrong.

 

[hk299792458]

But given the weapons configuration, isn't this more likely a J-16 ?

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The J-20's one is not from that company.

Henri K.

 

[Asoka]

The J-20's one is not from that company.

Henri K.

It's probably for the lame J-31, not J-16 nor J-20.

 

[hk299792458]

It's probably for the lame J-31, not J-16 nor J-20.

J-31 doesn't exist.

Henri K.

 

[Asoka]

J-31 doesn't exist.

Henri K.

J-31, aka, FC-31 makes the case that Chinese products are cheap and junky. I am glad Chinese Air force and Navy are not interested in it.

 

[cirr]

Handover ceremony was held yesterday.

So J-20s have formally joined the PLAAF as of 11.12.2016.

 

[Deino]

And no images ????

 

[grey boy 2]

Handover ceremony was held yesterday.

So J-20s have formally joined the PLAAF as of 11.12.2016.

 

[Beast]

Do Indian boys want to know how the J-20 are built ? I will give you a hint...

Henri K.

That is no good. H.K. The indian boys will take it as real and spread it like fire. And they claim its your website as proof.
They will claim J-20 is such standard.