Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Tiqiu]

Surprise,Surprise.

 

[星海军事]

Surprise,Surprise.

They are all AL-31

 

[Deino]

Surprise,Surprise.

They are all AL-31

These are older images showing #2011 back in July 2014 testing flights with different settings for the convergent7divergent nozzle ... a typical feature for so many engines and the AL-31 too.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Surprise,Surprise.

it is an old image, this picture prove nothing

 

[Tiqiu]

it is an old image, this picture prove nothing

Bummer.
Then we just have to wait for the new image leaking out. PLAA will not accept a J-20 without super-cruise speed and super-agility.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Bummer.
Then we just have to wait for the new image leaking out. PLAA will not accept a J-20 without super-cruise speed and super-agility.

initial batches with AL-31F3 or WS-10G, But letter batches is equipped with WS-15 as J-20B, ask @ChineseTiger1986

 

[Deino]

Bummer.
Then we just have to wait for the new image leaking out. PLAA will not accept a J-20 without super-cruise speed and super-agility.

Why not ?? They are - even if not with super-cruise capability - alone avionics-related a quantum-leap in comparison to everything else the PLAAF operates by now. As such it would be wise to use it as soon as possible, to work out operational doctrines and tactics ... which then can be fully explored with the final engine.

Just my 2 cents.
Deino

 

[Daniel808]

Why not ?? They are - even if not with super-cruise capability - alone avionics-related a quantum-leap in comparison to everything else the PLAAF operates by now. As such it would be wise to use it as soon as possible, to work out operational doctrines and tactics ... which then can be fully explored with the final engine.

Just my 2 cents.
Deino

This J-20 is my favourite Stealth aircraft, really love it.

But, many people say this J-20 is would become sitting duck when face F-22 or F-35, because J-20 Canard Design doesn't make J-20 "Stealth"

Is what they said true or just bias.
Can you give me little explanation for this J-20?
Thank you Mr @Deino

 

[Deino]

This J-20 is my favourite Stealth aircraft, really love it.

But, many people say this J-20 is would become sitting duck when face F-22 or F-35, because J-20 Canard Design doesn't make J-20 "Stealth"

Is what they said true or just bias.
Can you give me little explanation for this J-20?
Thank you Mr @Deino

IMO simply bias and surely most simply have no idea on stealth since Northrop Grumman - and they are not unknown in the field of stealth - proposed a delta-canard derivate of the ATF/YF-23 for the NAT program and the latest proposal for Boeing's 6th generation fighter is also a delta-canard design !!! So they are all wrong too ??

 

[Daniel808]

IMO simply bias and surely most simply have no idea on stealth since Northrop Grumman - and they are not unknown in the field of stealth - proposed a delta-canard derivate of the ATF/YF-23 for the NAT program and the latest proposal for Boeing's 6th generation fighter is also a delta-canard design !!! So they are all wrong too ??

Thanks so much for your explanation Mr. @Deino
Best regards.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Why not ?? They are - even if not with super-cruise capability - alone avionics-related a quantum-leap in comparison to everything else the PLAAF operates by now. As such it would be wise to use it as soon as possible, to work out operational doctrines and tactics ... which then can be fully explored with the final engine.

Just my 2 cents.
Deino

Yes it is but latter J-20B with WS-15 can super-cruise started in 2020-2022

 

[Ultima Thule]

Thanks so much for your explanation Mr. @Deino
Best regards.

This J-20 is my favourite Stealth aircraft, really love it.

But, many people say this J-20 is would become sitting duck when face F-22 or F-35, because J-20 Canard Design doesn't make J-20 "Stealth"

Is what they said true or just bias.
Can you give me little explanation for this J-20?
Thank you Mr @Deino

McDonnell Douglas X-36 in 90's has similar platform as J-20, NASA says that it was extremely stealthy from all angles
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/x-36.htm

 

[Ali Zadi]

But, many people say this J-20 is would become sitting duck when face F-22 or F-35, because J-20 Canard Design doesn't make J-20 "Stealth"
Thank you Mr @Deino

Using software control in conjunction with fly by wire and RAM is shown to improve RCS a lot.

 

[Brainsucker]

Using software control in conjunction with fly by wire and RAM is shown to improve RCS a lot.

Can you explain? I didn't get what you write.

 

[Ali Zadi]

Can you explain? I didn't get what you write.

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=id9kQCuqepQC&pg=PA114&lpg=PA114#v=onepage&q&f=false