Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Bilal.]

I still find it uncanny that Electronic Arts thought this up as their fictional China Jet back in 2003
Coincidence at its best

They used to use same weapons for China and Russia and that is a Mig 1.44...

 

[Beast]

They used to use same weapons for China and Russia and that is a Mig 1.44...

If J-20 is based off Mig.144. It will need a massive redesign that bring the air inlet from belly to side. Squeeze in a weapon bay and align all the wing edge which I think will better off going into the starting point of the drawing board.

Chengdu are specialise in canard design since from their J-9 to J-10. Its not hard to think their next generation heavy weight fighter design will based on the proven canard.

 

[Bilal.]

If J-20 is based off Mig.144. It will need a massive redesign that bring the air inlet from belly to side. Squeeze in a weapon bay and align all the wing edge which I think will better off going into the starting point of the drawing board.

Chengdu are specialise in canard design since from their J-9 to J-10. Its not hard to think their next generation heavy weight fighter design will based on the proven canard.

I was refering to the game's screenshot posted above.

 

[SQ8]

They used to use same weapons for China and Russia and that is a Mig 1.44...

Its the planform I refer to.Who would have thought that the future of Chinese aviation would actually look something like this.

 

[hk299792458]

Henri K.

 

[BRASSNAUTILUS]

Chengdu are specialise in canard design since from their J-9 to J-10. Its not hard to think their next generation heavy weight fighter design will based on the proven canard.

That's saying they wanted canards, knowing its drawbacks, and the fact that existing successful designs did not have canards.
The Chinese gotta be smarter than that. I think it was a compromise, so the design could achieve certain maneuverability goals without getting the necessary power. In fact they are pretty weak in this whole area, not just missing a 160kn class powerplant. They have issues from tank and ship engines to turboshaft for choppers to missile and artillery propellants.
Ironic the people who first figured out gunpowder mix is having trouble propelling things 1,000 years later

 

[Beast]

That is misleading. Eurofighter having a superior thrust to weight ratio does not stop from from having canard. If you read song wencong paper, the benefit of canard far outweight the disadvantage which make them decide to go with canard even for stealth.

As for propulsion, China has make significant.progress and days of unpower issue is over. Look at WZ-10 attack helo coming out in number. And how many Type052D is being produce if engine is a problem still plague the warship?

 

[nomi007]

 

[nomi007]

 

[sancho]

Any infos on these sensors?

 

[cnleio]

 

[hk299792458]

J-20 #2011 continues it's test fly today

Henri K.

 

[Rank]

Looking wOW but tooooo much bulky.. length should me 35% reduce...

 

[lcloo]

Looking wOW but tooooo much bulky.. length should me 35% reduce...

J-20 is a heavy fighter jet in the same class as Flankers, F-15 and F-14. The perception of its exagrated length is mainly due to the optical illussion caused by the low vertical height of the canted tail fins, if you transplant F-22's tail fin onto J-20, your optical perception of its lenth will be changed to a shorter one.

Also the internal weapon bay require extra space and 2 to 3 metre length which is not found on Flankers and F-15. Unless you eliminate the internal weapon bay or make the fuel tank smaller you can't make it shorter.

 

[Rank]

J-20 is a heavy fighter jet in the same class as Flankers, F-15 and F-14. The perception of its exagrated length is mainly due to the optical illussion caused by the low vertical height of the canted tail fins, if you transplant F-22's tail fin onto J-20, your optical perception of its lenth will be changed to a shorter one.

Also the internal weapon bay require extra space and 2 to 3 metre length which is not found on Flankers and F-15. Unless you eliminate the internal weapon bay or make the fuel tank smaller you can't make it shorter.

IMO because of its length ...more easily to target comparatively F22