Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Deino]

Maybe my eyes are too bad already, but is this a J-20 performing a Cobra-manoeuvre?

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[ozranger]

Maybe my eyes are too bad already, but is this a J-20 performing a Cobra-manoeuvre?

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It looks not. I believe the maneuver includes a climb and a following reverse. I have seen such combination in many J-20 clips. Please watch this video

from 0:00 until 0:22 or 0:35 to 0:45. It is the same maneuver but from a different angle.

Some J-20's vertical maneuver including this one is incredible to me. It can sustain velocity and even accelerate when climbing, described by many witnesses as "like a rocket", with a following reverse without significant speed loss. This type of climb had no preparatory dives to gain substantial energy like the 4th generation fighter jets. The J-20 normally flied straight and level, and then suddenly entered the climb.

Such energy sustainability poses bigger challenges to targeting AAMs because, if it can be used in some rolls with acceleration, the missiles would quickly lose their energy and therefore lose the trace of the target.

J-20's climb and energy sustainability is somewhat even more impressive than that of F-22. But F-22 can perform a very accurate 90 degree pitch down after a vertical climb, which really demonstrates the power of its TVC system. I believe such a pitch-down is still too challenging to J-20's flight control system even though its canards are already much more useful than the horizontal stabilizers in high AoA maneuvers. So almost all J-20 climbs ended up with a reverse. I hope J-20 can do the same thing after having a TVC system.

 

[siegecrossbow]

J-20 vs flanker??

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According to Yankee, the J-20 and J-16 were used to simulate F-22/F-15E in an aerial penetrative strike against an air base defended by SAMs and Fourth generation fighters. The aggressors achieved their objective with minimal losses.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

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According to Yankee, the J-20 and J-16 were used to simulate F-22/F-15E in an aerial penetrative strike against an air base defended by SAMs and Fourth generation fighters. The aggressors achieved their objective with minimal losses.

In that case, wouldn't the J-20 be in OPFOR blue?

 

[siegecrossbow]

In that case, wouldn't the J-20 be in OPFOR blue?

Red and blue are reversed in China.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Red and blue are reversed in China.

I know. The J-20 is red in the picture, which means it's friendly. If it were simulating an F-22, shouldn't it be blue?

 

[Maxpane]

great performance

 

[siegecrossbow]

I know. The J-20 is red in the picture, which means it's friendly. If it were simulating an F-22, shouldn't it be blue?

That's a good point. Maybe the color coding is off?

 

[cirr]

 

[clarkgap]

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From fyjs @铁背心, J-20 No.2022 made its maiden fly at Christmas in Chengdu.

 

[Beast]

The poem may suggest the engine tested is very powerful.

 

[Maxpane]

congrats china

 

[Deino]

Congrats ... but we need images !!!!!!

 

[ozranger]

That's a good point. Maybe the color coding is off?

They swap sides a lot in the drills.

 

[cirr]

From fyjs @铁背心, J-20 No.2022 made its maiden fly at Christmas in Chengdu.

According to same, 2021 left its "birth place" for where you know on the same day.