Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[cirr]

First of all I'm surprised what kind of standing Germany seems to have here within that forum ... anyway it's off topic and I think still a politically sensitive topic, therefore I cleaned that thread.





YES, ... more ..... !!! Give us more !!!

"a yellow bird with number 16 painted has been spotted"

 

[grey boy 2]

小奶鸭活了？

 

[Deino]

小奶鸭活了？

An old image actually taken 26. January 2016.

 

[grey boy 2]

An old image actually taken 26. January 2016.

I guess he meant the no 16 LRIP, picture was for reference only 小奶鸭活了？

 

[Deino]

I guess he meant the no 16 LRIP, picture was for reference only 小奶鸭活了？

Ok. ... I thought some-one suggested this would be no. 16 !

So PLEASE ... where is no. 16 ???

 

[grey boy 2]

If everything goes according to plan that the 4 J-20 production lines will be operating at full force, which means more than 6 J-20 monthly in 2018, it may even get to 10-12/month, we could match F-22 numbers by or before 2020since looks like USA ain't going to reopen the F-22 production line

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2017-06-28/doc-ifyhmtek7871930.shtml

 

[Beast]

If everything goes according to plan that the 4 J-20 production lines will be operating at full force, which means more than 6 J-20 monthly in 2018, it may even get to 10-12/month, we could match F-22 numbers by or before 2020since looks like USA ain't going to reopen the F-22 production line

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2017-06-28/doc-ifyhmtek7871930.shtml

At such rate, J-10 may retired.

 

[Deino]

"a yellow bird with number 16 painted has been spotted"

Images please !!!!

At such rate, J-10 may retired.

Good joke ... and while the J-10s are being retired the PLAAF will still use their hundreds of J-7/-8 and original early Flankers until 2037 ??

 

[S10]

Good joke ... and while the J-10s are being retired the PLAAF will still use their hundreds of J-7/-8 and original early Flankers until 2037 ??

While retiring the J-10 is an exaggeration at this point, it's not completely far fetched. J-7/J-8 will not be replaced at 1:1 ratio. In the future PLAAF may only have around 1,000 combat jets, transforming into a smaller but modernized force. The first Flankers bought from Russia in the 1990's are already being retired. The early J-11A batches will follow the same path in 5 years or so. Production model J-10 started rolling off the assembly line in 2004, and they will reach the end of their service life in less than 10 years.

 

[Deino]

While retiring the J-10 is an exaggeration at this point, it's not completely far fetched. J-7/J-8 will not be replaced at 1:1 ratio. In the future PLAAF may only have around 1,000 combat jets, transforming into a smaller but modernized force. The first Flankers bought from Russia in the 1990's are already being retired. The early J-11A batches will follow the same path in 5 years or so. Production model J-10 started rolling off the assembly line in 2004, and they will reach the end of their service life in less than 10 years.

Agreed, but before any J-10A will be retired surely all J-7/-8s will be gone and even if the PLAAF will end of with a dramatically reduced (by numbers) but multi-role-capable force of around 1000-1200 combat jets, these surely won't be 1000 J-20s as some here hope.

 

[52051]

While retiring the J-10 is an exaggeration at this point, it's not completely far fetched. J-7/J-8 will not be replaced at 1:1 ratio. In the future PLAAF may only have around 1,000 combat jets, transforming into a smaller but modernized force. The first Flankers bought from Russia in the 1990's are already being retired. The early J-11A batches will follow the same path in 5 years or so. Production model J-10 started rolling off the assembly line in 2004, and they will reach the end of their service life in less than 10 years.

At this production rate, the PLAAF could be run out of pilots before they run out of planes, just joke.

They dont need to shrink any of their fleet, they just need to keep the pilots around by flying these old school fighters before the new ones arrives.

And China is aiming to be globally military superpower, so yes, they do need a more modern and larger size of military force, just navy along could need 1500 combat aircrafts in the future considering how many CVs China plan to build, and considering their current fleet size (600+).

 

[S10]

Agreed, but before any J-10A will be retired surely all J-7/-8s will be gone and even if the PLAAF will end of with a dramatically reduced (by numbers) but multi-role-capable force of around 1000-1200 combat jets, these surely won't be 1000 J-20s as some here hope.

I believe the last J-7 produced for PLAAF entered service around 2010, 4 years after the first J-10A. I would not be surprised if some J-7 ended up retiring after the first production model J-10. While there won't be 1000 J-20s, around 400 is not unreasonable.

 

[Deino]

I believe the last J-7 produced for PLAAF entered service around 2010, 4 years after the first J-10A. I would not be surprised if some J-7 ended up retiring after the first production model J-10. While there won't be 1000 J-20s, around 400 is not unreasonable.

Yes, but it is surely not only a matter of age but also of capability and even a 2010-delivered J-7G is surely not the same league as a 2004-delivered J-10A esp. if that one can be refitted with new avionics.

Anyway ... back to the J-20; and let's show some new images.

Deino

 

[cirr]

This is what I would call "REAL" stealth technology

http://www.iqiyi.com/v_19rr7t5j18.html

 

[JSCh]