Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Ultima Thule]

What makes you say that?

F-14 Tomcat flew off aircraft carriers.

F-14 tomcat maximum weight is
Max. takeoff weight: 74,350 lb (33,720 kg)

Projected J-20 Max. takeoff weight is
Max takeoff weight: 36,288 kg (80,001 lb) upper estimate

China currently have not Nimitz size aircraft carrier, not possible on current Chinese AC

 

[Deino]

F-14 tomcat maximum weight is
Max. takeoff weight: 74,350 lb (33,720 kg)

Projected J-20 Max. takeoff weight is
Max takeoff weight: 36,288 kg (80,001 lb) upper estimate

China currently have not Nimitz size aircraft carrier, not possible on current Chinese AC

Hey come on, that could be rated as an insult to any Chinese technology achievements !! If I had posted this ... not to think about??

With the proclaimed +210 kN WS-15 with super-stealthy TVC-technology a J-20 can surely even jump out of my parking lot; and whoever does not believe this is a China-basher and Western ignorant.

Deino

 

[Deino]

An older image of J-20 2001 repainted grey ...

 

[星海军事]

A new bird or one of the older ones with a new MLG-door ?

The 4th LRIP J-20.

 

[Deino]

The 4th LRIP J-20.

O.k. ??? Thanks.
But what are then the numbers 78271 to 78274 ?? Which LRIP birds are these ??
Especially if this is the fourth LRIP aircraft and the fifth had just its maiden flight in yellow, so both are still at CAC ?


Deino

 

[星海军事]

O.k. ??? Thanks.
But what are then the numbers 78271 to 78274 ?? Which LRIP birds are these ??
Especially if this is the fourth LRIP aircraft and the fifth had just its maiden flight in yellow, so both are still at CAC ?


Deino

As the author mentioned, it is a series of old photos.

 

[Deino]

As the author mentioned, it is a series of old photos.

Thanks and pardon; I only saw them in post #7753 ... and there nothing was added.

https://defence.pk/threads/chengdu-...news-discussions.111471/page-517#post-9150695

And also here in this one nothing more is added:

https://twitter.com/x/status/825351035048730624

 

[星海军事]

Thanks and pardon; I only saw them in post #7753 ... and there nothing was added.

https://defence.pk/threads/chengdu-...news-discussions.111471/page-517#post-9150695

And also here in this one nothing more is added:

https://twitter.com/x/status/825351035048730624

The original post said:

一组老图，庆贺鸡年春节！！本组图片均为超大原创，转载请注明。

http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-2356468-1-1.html

 

[Deino]

The original post said:

http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-2356468-1-1.html

Thanks ... and that's for sure another proof that I indeed lack certain information. Anyway it is also proof for what I always say to other members: Please give a link so that anyone can check what's behind !

Thanks a lot.

Deino

 

[UKBengali]

F-14 tomcat maximum weight is
Max. takeoff weight: 74,350 lb (33,720 kg)

Projected J-20 Max. takeoff weight is
Max takeoff weight: 36,288 kg (80,001 lb) upper estimate

China currently have not Nimitz size aircraft carrier, not possible on current Chinese AC

J-20 will have far more powerful engines to enable it to launch from aircraft carrier - assume 180kN each from J-20 as opposed to 130kN each from F-14 Tomcat. Also,we are talking about future carriers that will be larger than the current one.

@Deino: Your reply was childish and not suitable for that of a mod.

 

[Ultima Thule]

J-20 will have far more powerful engines to enable it to launch from aircraft carrier - assume 180kN each from J-20 as opposed to 130kN each from F-14 Tomcat. Also,we are talking about future carriers that will be larger than the current one.

@Deino: Your reply was childish and not suitable for that of a mod.

yes but in lesser numbers medium weight class jets is on more favorable than heavies on AC

 

[Asoka]

All large US Carriers have Steam Powered Catapult, and the Ford class carrier have ElectroMagnetic Catapult to assist aircrafts to take off.

Some people don't seems understand what does the Catapult do, and what my post is talking about. Please don't call yourself a fanboy, if you don't even know these basic stuffs. It is insulting to the rest of us.

 

[Ultima Thule]

All large US Carriers have Steam Powered Catapult, and the Ford class carrier have ElectroMagnetic Catapult to assist aircrafts to take off.

Some people don't seems understand what does the Catapult do, and what my post is talking about. Please don't call yourself a fanboy, if you don't even know these basic stuffs. It is insulting to the rest of us.


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bro with due respect you are hyping too much about the capabilities of J-20 true capability of J-20 know only and only PLAAF no ones knows other than PLAAF and you know all the basic of military aviation you are the real fanboy for J-20

 

[AmirPatriot]

Was someone talking about the F-14?

 

[Brainsucker]

I don't know, but does J-20 really-really was prepared to be equipped with a 3D TVC engine? Because 3D TVC engine is way different to AL31 series and WS-10. 3D TVC engine has more weight, means that it will change everything. including the center of weight to the aircraft. If you replace the current engine (which supposedly to be WS-10 or AL-31) then you have modify everything, to correct the center of weight of the aircraft. That mean, J-20 will have to change her everything. Wing placement, fuselage model, etc

So I think there are two possible reality about J-20 here. Either it is not designed to have a 3D TVC engine from the beginning, or it has already has 3D TVC Engine

But I think even if J-20 is not designed to has a 3D TVC engine, it is not inferior aircraft. Look at F-22. Even with TVC Engine, it didn't give a guarantee win against an aircraft without TVC. Look at her record against European Typhoon and other older aircraft from the Europe. To defense F-22 loses, they said that it supposed to fight in BVR area, as it is the F-22 strong point. But then, what is the purpose of 3D TVC engine, if it's not to help the aircraft win a dog fight scenario?