Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[kungfugymnast]

Well, I agree with the first part.
But why support Iran... I'd rather hope China make friend with America.

When Trump first won election, he ended cold war by starting friendship with Russia & China as opposed to Democrats Hillary when she ordered Obama to sent military to Ukraine and South China Sea to heat up conflict to next level. When his "make America great again" economic plan failed (due to corrupted management in most of the large private sector companies), he turned bad and began attacking Russia and China blaming them for the failure.

Iran is proving ground for Russia & China latest military equipments, a chance for them to get combat proven. If the avionics and weapons proven effective, they'll get good reputation and business on weapons sales. It is the only country that has wealth and capital that US is planning to attack.

 

[Deino]

Can we please leave out politics and simply stick to the topic!

 

[kungfugymnast]

Can we please leave out politics and simply stick to the topic!

Back to topic on J10A. Does it have IRST and optronic sensor for designating ground targets for laser guided bomb/missile? There's no optronic right after nosecone as in Su-27 and only in J10B. Can the J10A upgrade the radar to AESA and engine to WS10 TVC.

 

[serenity]

Back to topic on J10A. Does it have IRST and optronic sensor for designating ground targets for laser guided bomb/missile? There's no optronic right after nosecone as in Su-27 and only in J10B. Can the J10A upgrade the radar to AESA and engine to WS10 TVC.

J-10A rumor is it will receive AESA radar upgrade like J-11B being upgraded to AESA now. Just simple radar package and some software change. Should allow to carry modern missiles after due to improved radar detection and upgraded softwares to link everything. This way old planes like J-11B and J-10A previously do not stand any chance against 4.5 generation fighter with PESA or AESA, now they at least can match in some ways.

Incorporate something like J-20 optic and infra red is wasteful and too expensive. Incorporate standard IRST is less useful and will require much more work to make it not worthwhile. Better to spend money making more J-10C and J-16 which already have good integration of infra red sensors. And overall performance is still better and younger life too so can use for longer.

 

[kungfugymnast]

J-10A rumor is it will receive AESA radar upgrade like J-11B being upgraded to AESA now. Just simple radar package and some software change. Should allow to carry modern missiles after due to improved radar detection and upgraded softwares to link everything. This way old planes like J-11B and J-10A previously do not stand any chance against 4.5 generation fighter with PESA or AESA, now they at least can match in some ways.

Incorporate something like J-20 optic and infra red is wasteful and too expensive. Incorporate standard IRST is less useful and will require much more work to make it not worthwhile. Better to spend money making more J-10C and J-16 which already have good integration of infra red sensors. And overall performance is still better and younger life too so can use for longer.

Thanks for clarification. Without optronic sensor for the upgrade, the J-10A is only suitable for air to air role. Guess the AL31F engine will retain until all existing parts being used up before decide whether to fit WS10 or phase out.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Thanks for clarification. Without optronic sensor for the upgrade, the J-10A is only suitable for air to air role. Guess the AL31F engine will retain until all existing parts being used up before decide whether to fit WS10 or phase out.

J-10A is no longer in production. Only J-10C is produced. J-10B can be upgraded to J-10C standard because same fuselage.

 

[kungfugymnast]

J-10A is no longer in production. Only J-10C is produced. J-10B can be upgraded to J-10C standard because same fuselage.

Good, should focus on J-10C production, need to phase out all old obsolete J-7/8. Should replace all old JH-7 with J-16 too in order to qualify modern air force status.

 

[Maxpane]

Is j 10 going to replace all j 7's ?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Is j 10 going to replace all j 7's ?

yup

 

[kungfugymnast]

yup

Just get rid of all those obsolete J-7, J-8, JH-7 old obsolete junk flying coffin that will only be shot down if flown against US. The H-8 old Tu-16 Badger too should retire. US F/A-18E/F would splash it out of the sky before it could get into missile effective range of US naval fleet. Just come up with new bomber powered by 4x WS10 engines with stealth material & internal bay would get the job done. China could take design cue from YF23 diamond shape for the new bomber. It could easily carry 40,000lb payload with range over 4000Nm.

Future bomber required to have air to air role fitted with powerful long range AESA for long range intercept and rearward facing radar or IRST for self defense when fleeing. Also powerful ECM jammer while having crew of 2, 3 or 4.

 

[Beast]

Just get rid of all those obsolete J-7, J-8, JH-7 old obsolete junk flying coffin that will only be shot down if flown against US. The H-8 old Tu-16 Badger too should retire. US F/A-18E/F would splash it out of the sky before it could get into missile effective range of US naval fleet. Just come up with new bomber powered by 4x WS10 engines with stealth material & internal bay would get the job done. China could take design cue from YF23 diamond shape for the new bomber. It could easily carry 40,000lb payload with range over 4000Nm.

Future bomber required to have air to air role fitted with powerful long range AESA for long range intercept and rearward facing radar or IRST for self defense when fleeing. Also powerful ECM jammer while having crew of 2, 3 or 4.

I think you have under estimate the capabilities of J-8F and JH-7A, they may not be so maneuverable than 4th jet fighter but they have the range, capacity to house modern avionic and payload to complete a lot of modern task. All J-7 series plane have relegate to training role only. But the J-8 and JH-7A series still have plenty to offer. Their huge nose cone can house even AESA if needed. JH-7A combat radius is so good that even refuel pod is not needed. They can become very fearsome interceptor or carry out bomb attack when needed.

J-8F with guided glided bomb

JH-7A with precision land attack missile.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Can anyone tell about the specifications of J 10C AESA?

 

[zhxy]

J-10 is a great fighter. Low cost, versatile, easy to maintain and upgrade. Comparing the J-10 and J-20 is like a confrontation between T-34 and Tiger. For China, the importance of J-10 is much higher than that of J-20. is the best aircraft in Chinese aviation industry history

 

[Adam_Khan]

I think you have under estimate the capabilities of J-8F and JH-7A, they may not be so maneuverable than 4th jet fighter but they have the range, capacity to house modern avionic and payload to complete a lot of modern task. All J-7 series plane have relegate to training role only. But the J-8 and JH-7A series still have plenty to offer. Their huge nose cone can house even AESA if needed. JH-7A combat radius is so good that even refuel pod is not needed. They can become very fearsome interceptor or carry out bomb attack when needed.

J-8F with guided glided bomb

JH-7A with precision land attack missile.

JH.7A as an interceptor, buddy it was never envisaged to be used for that purpose!

 

[LKJ86]

JH.7A as an interceptor

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