Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[PakShaheen79]

Jacobabad is in balochistan, district borders with Sindh province.

Indeed it has a border with Baluchistan but here for your help. See youself where it is

 

[TOPGUN]

Does any one know when we get the fc-20's where they will ne stationed?

 

[PakShaheen79]

Does any one know when we get the fc-12's where they will ne stationed?

Hope you are talking about FC-20.. OK. In 2013-14 and my wild guess is .......... Chaklala AFB.

 

[Sapper]

Hope you are talking about FC-20.. OK. In 2013-14 and my wild guess is .......... Chaklala AFB.

I don't think so ... chaklala doesnt have the room to accommodate a couple of squadron of that many planes and support equipment ... besides it is in a very populated area.

Also, it is shared with civilian aircraft and maintenance/ground personnel ... and the most advanced fighter in Pakistan's arsenal should not be exposed to such an easy civilian scrutiny.

My 2 cents

 

[PakShaheen79]

I don't think so ... chaklala doesnt have the room to accommodate a couple of squadron of that many planes and support equipment ... besides it is in a very populated area.

Also, it is shared with civilian aircraft and maintenance/ground personnel ... and the most advanced fighter in Pakistan's arsenal should not be exposed to such an easy civilian scrutiny.

My 2 cents

Lol...Ok my wild guess eaten up....
Why you forget to make your own about possible AFB where FC-20 will stationed

 

[araz]

Lol...Ok my wild guess eaten up....
Why you forget to make your own about possible AFB where FC-20 will stationed

Would it not depend on what role is perceived for them. We need naval defence, plus defence of our premier installation, so possibly, Karachi and Kamra?? Just a wild guess.
Araz

 

[SBD-3]

Would it not depend on what role is perceived for them. We need naval defence, plus defence of our premier installation, so possibly, Karachi and Kamra?? Just a wild guess.
Araz

yap i think one sqadern each at both the places

 

[PakShaheen79]

Would it not depend on what role is perceived for them. We need naval defence, plus defence of our premier installation, so possibly, Karachi and Kamra?? Just a wild guess.
Araz

What about Shorkot?? Thunders...? Now we must also keep in mind new F-16M will be on Shahbaz AFB in Jacobabad,Sindh.

 

[Arsalan]

well for a guess, i dont thik they will be stationed anywhere i sindh!
Sindh is going to have 18F16 blk 52, so for me the FC20 may go to Shorkot being isolated and better located. the other Squadron may well go toward Sargodha.
for sindh (karachi) the task will be upto the Blk 2z, Mirages and latter o the JF when they finall replace them,

regards!

 

[PakShaheen79]

for sindh (karachi) the task will be upto the Blk 2z, Mirages and latter o the JF when they finall replace them,

regards!

But Mirages will be retired by then? We are talking about 2014 time line bro. JF-17 will be there much before FC-20s. No doubts Thunders will be there in Sindh AB and also in Karachi but we must also keep in mind 18 F-16M will be used in other roles than defending air space.

Shorkot makes prefect sense for FC-20, at least for one squadron but PAF may have all FC-20 there to minimize expenses in up gradation of air bases. To me Minhas air base Kamra also a big candidate of FC-20 as most of strategic sites are located close to it. Hmmmmmm..... I think we need much more FC-20 than 36.

 

[Ghazy]

May be due to infancy of Chinese technology in aviation field, PAF has so far ordered 36. But after 2015 when PAF will use FC-20 and "rate" it then number will increased to _ _ _ say around 90-100.

Sorry bro I mixed Jafarabad with Jacobabad

 

[SBD-3]

Diplomats said that the incident underscored the problems the PLA has had developing an engine for the fighter. "They will be very disappointed by this,” one said.The J-10, which China has taken about 20 years to make, was on a training exercise with deputy regiment air force commander Li Feng at the controls. He tried to exercise a tricky manoeuvre at an altitude of 4,500 metres when the engine failed, state media reported. Realising the the jet could lose power at any time, he requested permission to return.Related LinksStiill seven kilometers from the airfield, the engine stopped and the jet began to lose altitude at a rate of 25 metres per second. The pilot succeeded in gliding the fighter onto the runway without power. The rear parachute also failed, but he succeeded in bringing the fighter to a halt after taxiing for some 1,400 metres down the runway.
The entire landing took 104 seconds, state television said. The success of the pilot may have influenced their decision to broadcast the landing.One aviation expert said that the skill of the pilot should not be underestimated. He said: “A fighter jet glides like a soggy brick.”It was the first reported incident involving the J-10 since it was unveiled with great fanfare before an international audience at the Zhuhai air show in southern China last November. It received several impressive reviews of its performance at the time. Vladimir Karnozov, a Mosco-based aerospace journalist, wrote a blog calling the J-10 the real deal. He said: “The pilot did none of the show tricks like post-stall or tail slide or pitch-back, but turns were very tight, initial rate of turn very high. It was clear there is a lot of potential in this airplane to achieve the same maneuvers more quickly. “However, diplomats said question marks still hung over the plane, which has taken some 20 years to develop. Most involve its engine.All the J-10 fighters built so far are believed to be powered by a single Russian-built turbofan engine, the AL-31F. Diplomats said that there had been problems adapting the plane and the engine to fit, adding that the use of a Russian engine could affect Chinese plans to sell the jet overseas.
China already has an order for 40 of the fighters from Pakistan.They said that China was keen to install its own engine in the aircraft but so far this had not been possible. Chinese media said last year that the PLA had finally developed an indigenous turbojet engine called the WS-10A, or "Taihang", as it is known commercially, and had started installing it in the J-10.Chinese-made engines are currently used in the twin-engine J-8, which is based on the design of the Russian Sukhoi-15 fighter, but these are still being adapted to the far more rigorous demands of a single-engine jet.
The Chinese engine is believed to take twice as long as the Russian one to reach the same level of performance: the lag of up to one minute could mean the difference between life or death for a pilot needing to restart his engine or eject. The aviation expert said: “These single-engine fighters are often known as widow-makers.”Experts said that China was apparently still trying to adapt its domestic engines to power the J-10. Its programme faces additional urgency since the PLA may be keen to use fully homemade fighters once it builds its own aircraft carrier. Several senior officers have indicated China’s construction of such a group is now only a matter of time.
ASIAN DEFENCE: J-10

 

[hj786]

I think we can expect to see at least one J-10 squadron based at Sargodha for use in Combat Commanders School air combat training sorties, replacing the Mirage squadron. Delta wing fighters are not going to be retired along with PAF's Mirage III/5, therefore pilots going through CCS would need to experience this type of fighter in dissimilar air combat training to develop new tactics as well as refine current tactics.

 

[wangrong]

first J10 #1001

 

[Arsalan]

But Mirages will be retired by then? We are talking about 2014 time line bro. JF-17 will be there much before FC-20s. No doubts Thunders will be there in Sindh AB and also in Karachi but we must also keep in mind 18 F-16M will be used in other roles than defending air space.

Shorkot makes prefect sense for FC-20, at least for one squadron but PAF may have all FC-20 there to minimize expenses in up gradation of air bases. To me Minhas air base Kamra also a big candidate of FC-20 as most of strategic sites are located close to it. Hmmmmmm..... I think we need much more FC-20 than 36.

bro have antoher go :

for sindh (karachi) the task will be upto the Blk 2z, Mirages and latter on the JF when they finall replace them,

regards!

mirages are involved in marinetime warfare duties and will stay there untill they are replaced by JF17, this is what ia am saying!!
so foe me it will be like:
for high end role f16 blk52,
for normal duties Mirages for the time being and JF 17 when it replaces the existing mirage fleet!!
i hope you get the point now!

regards!