Chances of Iran Getting T-50

[Daneshmand]

I was reading Dr. Carlo Kopp's analysis report on Sukhoi PAKFA T-50 design and its technical comparison with F-22, F-35 and legacy fighters. PAKFA is certainly a designed to grow and remain lethal till middle of this century and possibly even beyond. Here is this report: Assessing the Sukhoi PAK-FA / Sukhoi/KnAAPO T-50/I-21/Article701 PAK-FA Перспективный Авиационный Комплекс Фронтовой Авиации

These lines of the report are sobering:

"The available evidence demonstrates at this time that a mature production PAK-FA design has the potential to compete with the F-22A Raptor in VLO performance from key aspects, and will outperform the F-22A Raptor aerodynamically and kinematically. Therefore, from a technological strategy perspective, the PAK-FA renders all legacy US fighter aircraft, and the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter, strategically irrelevant and non-viable after the PAK-FA achieves IOC in 2015.

Detailed strategic analysis indicates that the only viable strategic survival strategy now remaining for the United States is to terminate the Joint Strike Fighter program immediately, redirect freed funding to further develop the F-22 Raptor, and employ variants of the F-22 aircraft as the primary fighter aircraft for all United States and Allied TACAIR needs.

If the United States does not fundamentally change its planning for the future of tactical air power, the advantage held for decades will be soon lost and American air power will become an artefact of history."

So, what you guys think? Do you believe Iran has any chance at getting these planes from Russia with technology transfer as India is doing? Can Iran with hard work in diplomacy and fat financial offer, convince Russia on this?

 

[flamer84]

No.

And,Carlo Kopp is the joke of the aviation industry.

 

[Dominance]

Maybe through "unconventional" ways.
This story shows that they are certainly interested in F 35 blueprints:

Aerospace & defense engineer accused of shipping F-35 blueprints to Iran
January 14, 2014
By Courtney Howard
Executive Editor

NEWARK, N.J., 15 Jan. 2014. An engineer and formerly employee of three U.S. defense contractors was arrested at Newark Airport in New Jersey for allegedly attempting to ship sensitive technical materials and proprietary information on the F-35 Lightning II military fighter aircraft to Iran.

On 9 Jan. 2014, police at Newark Airport arrested Mozaffar Khazaee, described as a 59-year-old engineer, a dual citizen of the U.S. and Iran, and a former employee of three aerospace & defense contractors who also goes by the name Arash Khazaie. Khazaee was detained while attempting to fly to Tehran, Iran via Frankfurt, Germany, and is charged with the theft and interstate transportation of proprietary information valued at more than $350,000.

A special agent with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) unit in California reportedly discovered the stolen property, described as blueprints, while inspecting Khazaee’s 44-box shipment to Iran marked “Household Goods” in November 2013. The boxes bound for Hamadan, Iran, were shipped by Khazaee in Connecticut and filled with thousands of International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR)-protected and export-controlled documents related to the modern military aircraft.

The arrest warrant affidavit alleging the aerospace & defense engineer’s crimes mentions “Company A,” “Company B,” and “Company C”—reportedly three contractors with the U.S. government and Department of Defense (DOD).

A company spokesperson has confirmed that Pratt & Whitney is “Company A.” In fact, the charges against Khazaee were filed with the U.S. District Court in Connecticut, home to Pratt & Whitney’s corporate headquarters.

Matthew Bates, communications manager at Pratt & Whitney Military Engines, is quoted as saying: “Pratt & Whitney has been cooperating fully with the government on this matter and will continue to do so.”

Lockheed Martin leads the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter program. Rolls-Royce in Indiana also worked on the F-35’s innovative engine program.

Khazaee has traveled to Iran at least five times in the past seven years, according to the affidavit.

 

[haman10]

you know , its enough on that . enough on buying stuff . i don't like doing that anymore .

better fly cardboard 2nd generation mockups than to be dependent on another country .

that being said , even if iran was not under sanctions , a powerful IRIAF was definitely not in Russia's interests .

and lets be honest , they are no one's ally . one of the few things i like about US is that they honor friendship much more than russians if you know what i mean

Mozaffar Khazaee

and he didn't have the audacity and the IQ to at least deliver those documents in a flash memory card or Sth like that

he insisted on the old fashion way . such a nostalgist little dork

 

[Khalid Newazi]

Highly doubt that, the first 2 users of the T-50 will be Russia and India and even if it goes for sale it will be somewhere between 2025-2030.

Iran would be better off targeting to acquire the Chinese J-31 (export version F-60). Given that China is Iran's biggest customer for oil, this looks more likely.

 

[SOHEIL]

 

[raptor22]

First of all Russians are not trustworthy, why should we trust a tested country twice?
It's not gonna happen, they wouldn't sell it or cooperate with Iran in this field.
And finally I prefer to see our money spent on demestic project instead of seeing Iran being tied to foreigners.

 

[PakEye]

So, what you guys think? Do you believe Iran has any chance at getting these planes from Russia with technology transfer as India is doing? Can Iran with hard work in diplomacy and fat financial offer, convince Russia on this?

Brother please visit the link below about
" New Delhi and Moscow finalise a $6 billion deal to co-develop an FGFA with capabilities tailor-made for India"
Russia can't deliver on Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft: IAF | Business Standard News

 

[yavar]

Chances of Iran Getting T-50

total nonsense .
this latest BS propaganda in start of 2015 by Media . it never stops these nonsense .

FOR FOOLS
Ex-Pratt Worker Allegedly Tried To Ship F-35 Files To Iran
he worked on all U.S military program jet engines
listen carefully and you will hear it

U.S. attorney's office accuses man of trying to ship military documents to Iran - CNN.com

better fly cardboard 2nd generation mockups than to be dependent on another country .

100% agree

 

[SOHEIL]

 

[The Last of us]

Hasn't the Iranian parliament banned the purchasing of foreign military hardware?

 

[SOHEIL]

 

[SOHEIL]

We can't afford S-300 and you are talking about T-50 ? sorry mate , are you drunk ?


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That's sofreh mahi drone . what's the point ?

Drones with canopy !?

 

[Nodata]

Can you guys handle the leap?

From F-14's to Su-50's?

Better if you induct 4th gen Russian platforms such as Mig-31 and Su-27 both of which are up for retirement.

3rd gen direct to 5th gen sounds pretty awesome but may prove to be impossible regarding maintenance, servicing et all

 

[Malik Alashter]

enough on buying stuff . i don't like doing that anymore .

better fly cardboard 2nd generation mockups than to be dependent on another country .

I really support that. Look at Iraq spend billions on hardware that they didn't recieve the critical one of them, now even if they do they should be downgraded!! it's your money yet they tell what you should have what not you should have. See in Iraq we can bring some 60s tech from friend countries then rebuild it that's better than spend your money on crap from any nation all of them play gods on you, give you their crap for your precious money we in Iraq should stop that BS and let start from the beginning that's our fate.

one rafale equal two times of it's weight gold that's really a big BS. the money for one rafale we can biuld many
houses for poor people many hospitals better infrastractures!!!.

Drones with canopy !?

drone with canopy