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[A friend]

The etc You should look at the reasons why Western countries became Islamophobic,the terrorist actions of so called Muslims helped form this anti Islam view,how can you blame them when its ''Muslims'' who do the terror attacks?
Look at the cause of things before you blame people for being Islamophobic.
Westerners know that Turks have nothing to do with these terror acts and will never blame us for that.
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No,what im saying is that Muslims sell each other out,kill each others for sectarian bs,let others get involved in their business.
What the Western world did to Muslims is the fault of the Muslims only.

This is the last comment you will get from me today.
The us attacked Iraq and Libya and removed the government. Unrest rose and terrorist groups appeared and fighting each other for power. US coalition started the "war on terror" and the terrorist got bombed. In retaliation they did terror attacks in Europe because they are part of the coalition. That is WAR you bomb someone they bomb you. And the media is saying MUSLIMS bombed us all Muslims are terrorist while they should say the enemy bombed us. Do you finally get it? if the us coalition never "destabilized Iraq and Libya terror attacks would never happen. Same goes for Taliban and 9/11. It's a war where the ATTACKER can expect a blow back. To clarify I'm not defending these terror attacks and it is a very very bad that these happened but it's the fault of the us coalition. This is the only fucking reason why we Muslims are being oppressed.

 

[A friend]

the turks who live in europe are one of the most disgraceful people you will ever see. specialy the ones in germany and nehtherlands... they bring shame to turkish people. majority of them live in ghettos, and live on benefits, also they are extremly relgious with a sharia loving among them.they hold no political power no soft power, no nothing, compare them with the Turks who live in the usa, who are 500k the turks hold one of highest paying jobs in the country you will not see a turish man wo is selling kebab on the streets ,they are rich with huge politcal power and somtimes they do lobbing favouring Turkey on something like the so called armenian genocide, do turks in europe have that power no idon't think so there are 3milion turks who live in germany and the kurds and armenian are bullying them..what a disgrace.

You shouldn't speak to me.

 

[blondeturkish]

You shouldn't speak to me.

if you hate the secular western life style and the way they view islamic terrorist why don't you migrate to saudi arabia or iran , you belong there

 

[A friend]

if you hate the secular western life style and the way they view islamic terrorist why don't you migrate to saudi arabia or iran , you belong there

What a piety you live in Canada because if you said this to me irl I would have broken your jaw. I am for secularism something you could have seen in my posts.read my other post then you will understand the meaning of "Islamic terrorist" If you have a brain.

 

[T-123456]

the turks who live in europe are one of the most disgraceful people you will ever see. specialy the ones in germany and nehtherlands... they bring shame to turkish people. majority of them live in ghettos, and live on benefits, also they are extremly relgious with a sharia loving among them.they hold no political power no soft power, no nothing, compare them with the Turks who live in the usa, who are 500k the turks hold one of highest paying jobs in the country you will not see a turish man wo is selling kebab on the streets ,they are rich with huge politcal power and somtimes they do lobbing favouring Turkey on something like the so called armenian genocide, do turks in europe have that power no idon't think so there are 3milion turks who live in germany and the kurds and armenian are bullying them..what a disgrace.

Wow,easy there tiger,dont talk about things you know nothing of.
The Turks coming to Europe were from the rural areas,the first generation were mostly poor peasants,workers etc with at most middle school degrees.

They never planned to stay in Europe,after working a couple of years in Europe,they wanted to return home and as you know,many stayed.
Think of the culture and traditions in rural areas in Turkiye,do you think it was easy to adapt to western culture for such people?
However,it was easier for the second and third generations to adapt but they still kept their culture and traditions,For such Turks the influence of the elders weigh more then the society they live in.
Discrimination plays a major role in Western Europe,a Turk has to be better then the rest to get the job.
Thats why many Turks shut themselves from society and concentrated on their own culture,traditions,religion in order to go back to Turkiye to get a better chance in society,they dont care for Europe anymore.
The soft power of Turks is getting bigger day by the day in Germany and the Netherlands,many businessmen,politicians and high level government employees etc,there are many organisations doing their best in lobbying for Turkish interests.
Now,lets go to the USA,
As you know,its not easy to go to the US,get in or stay there legally.
Turks in the US are members of rich famillies,doctors,scientists,academics,businessmen etc,they already have a position in society which gives them more power and opportunities to do things and thats why you wont find a Turk selling kebab there.
So Tiger,its better to know some things before commenting on things.

 

[A friend]

The etc You should look at the reasons why Western countries became Islamophobic,the terrorist actions of so called Muslims helped form this anti Islam view,how can you blame them when its ''Muslims'' who do the terror attacks?
Look at the cause of things before you blame people for being Islamophobic.
Westerners know that Turks have nothing to do with these terror acts and will never blame us for that.
.

No,what im saying is that Muslims sell each other out,kill each others for sectarian bs,let others get involved in their business.
What the Western world did to Muslims is the fault of the Muslims only.

This is the LAST comment you will get from me today.
The us attacked Iraq and Libya and removed the government. Unrest rose and terrorist groups appeared and fighting each other for power. US coalition started the "war on terror" and the terrorist got bombed. In retaliation they did terror attacks in Europe because they are part of the coalition. That is WAR you bomb someone they bomb you. And the media is saying MUSLIMS bombed us all Muslims are terrorist while they should say the enemy bombed us. Do you finally get it? if the us coalition never "destabilized Iraq and Libya terror attacks would never happen. Same goes for Taliban and 9/11. It's a war where the ATTACKER can expect a blow back. To clarify I'm not defending these terror attacks and it is a very very bad that these happened but it's the fault of the us coalition. This is the only fucking reason why we Muslims are being oppressed. Read this and respond accordingly.

 

[blondeturkish]

Wow,easy there tiger,dont talk about things you know nothing of.
The Turks coming to Europe were from the rural areas,the first generation were mostly poor peasants,workers etc with at most middle school degrees.
They never planned to stay in Europe,after working a couple of years in Europe,they wanted to return home and as you know,many stayed.
Think of the culture and traditions in rural areas in Turkiye,do you think it was easy to adapt to western culture for such people?
However,it was easier for the second and third generations to adapt but they still kept their culture and traditions,For such Turks the influence of the elders weigh more then the society they live in.
Discrimination plays a major role in Western Europe,a Turk has to be better then the rest to get the job.
Thats why many Turks shut themselves from society and concentrated on their own culture,traditions,religion in order back to Turkiye to get a better chance in society,they dont care for Europe anymore.
The soft power of Turks is getting bigger day by the day in Germany and the Netherlands,many businessmen,politicians and high level government employees etc,there are many organisations doing their best in lobbying for Turkish interests.
Now,lets go to the USA,
As you know,its not easy to go to the US,get in or stay there legally.
Turks in the US are members of rich famillies,doctors,scientists,academics,businessmen etc,they already have a position in society which gives them more power and opportunities to do things and thats why you wont find a Turk selling kebab there.
So Tiger,its better to know some things before commenting on things.

ok iam sorry i might generalized abit there, i

 

[T-123456]

ok iam sorry i might generalized abit there, i

Btw,the days of getto life for Turks is almost over,most bought houses in Germany and the Netherlands.

 

[blondeturkish]

but that doesn"t change the fact some of the Turks who live in europe are fanatics who hate secuar life style and some of them even hate Ataturk

 

[A friend]

Yeah just talk over my comment. You guys are hiding from the truth and you know that too.

 

[blondeturkish]

Btw,the days of getto life for Turks is almost over,most bought houses in Germany and the Netherlands.

good to hear that thats what every Turks should inspire and our founding fathers will be PROUD

 

[A friend]

good to hear that thats what every Turks should inspire and our founding fathers will be PROUD

If The European Turks are provoked they shouldn't invest in their country. Instead buy houses in turkey and rent them.

 

[Baybars Han]

Dont you think that the MHP with such a leader can only be a sidekick of someone?

No, Dikkatli takip ederseniz MHP herzaman omurgasi olan ve herzaman kendi presipleri arkasinda durmustur. AKP nin yaninda diyenler ya aptal yada cocuk beyinli. Birkac ornek.

Bas ortusu - MHP AKP destekledi cunku cozulmesini istiyordu (birlik)
Acilim/Cozum sureci- MHP kesinlikle karsi durdu herzaman yani MHP - (karsi)
Anayasa degisikligi - MHP herzaman ilk 3-4 maddenin kalmasi gerektigini, bunlarin tartisilamaz oldugunu soyledi (karsi)
Feto- MHP 2011 ve oncesinde bile Fetullah gulene karsi dikkatli olunmasi gerektigini, devleti ele gecirecegini soyledi. AKP buna kargalar bile guler dedi (karsi)

Daha bircok ornek var verebilecegim. MHP, AKP gibi omurgasiz, sah damari olmayan bir parti degil, herzaman presinplerinin arkasinda duran bir parti. Su anda savundugu da baskanlik degil, anayasa degiskligi ki herzaman belirtigi gibi bazi maddeler kesinlikle degistirilemez.

 

[blondeturkish]

If The European Turks are provoked they shouldn't invest in their country. Instead buy houses in turkey and rent them.

my friend i get your anger it might have to do with racism you have faced among europeans , but that shouldn't stop you buying a house

 

[T-123456]

This is the LAST comment you will get from me today.
The us attacked Iraq and Libya and removed the government. Unrest rose and terrorist groups appeared and fighting each other for power. US coalition started the "war on terror" and the terrorist got bombed. In retaliation they did terror attacks in Europe because they are part of the coalition. That is WAR you bomb someone they bomb you. And the media is saying MUSLIMS bombed us all Muslims are terrorist while they should say the enemy bombed us. Do you finally get it? if the us coalition never "destabilized Iraq and Libya terror attacks would never happen. Same goes for Taliban and 9/11. It's a war where the ATTACKER can expect a blow back. To clarify I'm not defending these terror attacks and it is a very very bad that these happened but it's the fault of the us coalition. This is the only fucking reason why we Muslims are being oppressed. Read this and respond accordingly.

You wrote something before reading my post.
Why are Muslims divided,why all the wars are in Muslim countries by Muslim against Muslim?
If you as a people are not together,how difficult is it to make you fight each other?
The weak always lose and divided you are weak so,instead of blaming others,look towards the Muslims for the cause of the problems.
If you have rotten apples in a basket,you need to get rid of them,what do we Muslims do,we let the rest rott to and thats why they call the whole basket rotten apples,do you get it?
Btw,''being oppressed'' is another show of weaklings,be strong so that no one will mess with you.
How can you be strong?
Only as a unit,Muslims are not so,they will stay weak.