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turkmenisan lost the war to iran and russia . it's more likly now they will take over the country now Turkmenistan suffer from bankruptcy caused by russia and iran who bullying from what i know they have not only buying the gas very cheap than selling it very hight to turkey and eu now they even wont give the money the Turkmenistan is own and it;s seems china finally show their color and sell us out

this is the history of turkmen struggle to survive

chines help Turkmenistan to survive long enough to build their pipeline and now it's seems they behave like russians
and after 10 years fighting both iran and russia the turkmen government give up and admit defeat
turkmenistan to become their back yard

this is really annoying they buy cheap than they wont pay and they hold the money as hostage turkmenisan goverment i really incompetent
Sad to see this happen. And people here want us to become friends with Russia and China. :lol:
 
You used to seem mature guy
Good to know, at least not spineless like what you seem.

Turkmenistan suffer from bankruptcy caused by russia and iran who bullying from what i know they have not only buying the gas very cheap than selling it very hight to turkey and eu
Seems, nobody likes Persian filth.
it;s seems china finally show their color and sell us out
You should take a look at Orkhon Inscriptions to know, it fits today's China.
 
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breaking news Turkmenistan cut gas on iran , iran wont give back Turkmenistan's 2 billion dollar things getting worse here
 
How come they decide not to give you the money for the gas they buy from you?

ps Wasn't there any plans for a pipeline under the Caspian Sea from where your gas to go to Azerbaycan and then to TANAP to Europe?
 
How come they decide not to give you the money for the gas they buy from you?

ps Wasn't there any plans for a pipeline under the Caspian Sea from where your gas to go to Azerbaycan and then to TANAP to Europe?
i think these are consequences of that plan 60-80% of turkmenistan budget come from gas when turkmenistan sell very very gas to russia and iran and they sell the same gas very expensive to u and eu , i remember when turkmenistan wanted to make new market in china both iran and russia boycott turkmenistan gas result turkmen goverment face crisis they force to fire teachers and close school hospitals etc outside the capital at same time propaganda of both countries started against tturkmenistan but no matter what turkmens build the pipeline to china and new market opened but celebrations ends quickly cuz now chines also acting like russians i guess they doing this cuz they dont like turken-azerbijan-turkmenistan plans they want to keep turkmenistan out of turkey and eu market if this pipline build maybe we can make similar oil pipeline to Mediterranean sea
 
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Bro, having a big natural resources on your territory can be a big blessing if you know how to use them well but also a curse for the country... There is so many countries and leaders who prefer to make some easy money by just pumping up gas and oil from the earth, filling their bank accounts, feeding well the corrupt and loyal elite and leave the leftovers to the people. They don't invest in developing a real economy in the country, developing industries, good education, science and research, better health care but prefer to just sell their country's oil and gas and fill their pockets. That usually happens in countries where people are more corrupt in general. I guess that's the case in Turkmenistan too. Especially considering the countries you are surrounded with which try to push you around because you are much smaller and weaker than them. I hope the Trans- Caspian pipeline happens soon and connects to TANAP and the Southern corridor which will help you diversify your markets. You guys should follow Azerbaycan's example of how to do trade and defend your country.

ps Probably on of the only countries that comes to my mind which uses it's natural resources well is Norway which is also pretty rich in natural gas that it sells on the European market. Instead of using the money they make on feeding the corrupt elite and building stuff they don't need they just invest in their people, in education, health care, economy and infrastructure and save most of it's natural gas income in the biggest sovereign wealth fund on Earth where they have around 900$ billion. But you know, not every nation can make that... Just imagine what Russia could have been with it's resources if Germans and Japanese conquered it. :D
 
Only solution for Turkmen gas is Turkish and EU market, just make a pipeline through Caspian Sea.
 
Very interesting and prescient article. Thanks for sharing. Having been brought up in Europe I feel very comfortable with the Turkish understanding of Islam. I certainly think the way Turkey marches forward is inspiration to progressives all over the Islamic world.

I only wish KSA had not found the oil because that gave it the marketing power to extend it's retrogressive version of Islam with pernicious results.
 
Very interesting and prescient article. Thanks for sharing. Having been brought up in Europe I feel very comfortable with the Turkish understanding of Islam. I certainly think the way Turkey marches forward is inspiration to progressives all over the Islamic world.

I only wish KSA had not found the oil because that gave it the marketing power to extend it's retrogressive version of Islam with pernicious results.
And the British Empire encouraged that version of Islam so as to illegitimatize the Turks (amongst the Arabs) and defeat them.
 
Beyler Cübbeli Ahmet hoca satranç oynayanların lanetli olduğu fetvasını geçmiş. Ona göre satranç damadan, okeyden vs. daha tehlikeliymiş.

Forum ahalisi bu konuda ne düşünüyor acaba_?
 

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