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Kardesim onu birak bir hastane bir okul bir baska birsey yapsalardi 6 milyonluk muftuluk israf.

Ne Islamin nede muslumanin bu lukse ihtiyaci var.

Ya diyorum ya Islamin peygamberi cok sade bir hayat ile alemi islama davet ederken onun ummeti ozellikle islam uzerine hayatini adamis bu sahislarin bu luksu nedir arkadas? Allah c.c bildigi gibi yapsin.
 
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Kardesim onu birak bir hastane bir okul bir baska birsey yapsalardi 6 milyonluk muftuluk israf.

Ne Islamin nede muslumanin bu lukse ihtiyaci var.

Ya diyorum ya Islamin peygamberi cok sade bir hayat ile alemi islama davet ederken onun ummeti ozellikle islam uzerine hayatini adamis bu sahislarin bu luksu nedir arkadas? Allah c.c bildigi gibi yapsin.
Bosver,kafayi yormaya degmez.
 
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Kardesim onu birak bir hastane bir okul bir baska birsey yapsalardi 6 milyonluk muftuluk israf.

Ne Islamin nede muslumanin bu lukse ihtiyaci var.

Ya diyorum ya Islamin peygamberi cok sade bir hayat ile alemi islama davet ederken onun ummeti ozellikle islam uzerine hayatini adamis bu sahislarin bu luksu nedir arkadas? Allah c.c bildigi gibi yapsin.

Bro, i'm in construction Business....believe me 6 Million is nothing....

MEKANİK TESİSAT İCMALİ
SIHHİ TESİSAT 1,921,454.79 TL
KALORİFER TESİSATI 19,263,984.94 TL
MÜŞTEREK TESİSAT 3,918,628.70 TL
HAVALANDIRMA TESİSATI 10,230,246.14 TL
OTOMASYON TESİSATI 5,679,473.50 TL
BRÜLÖR TESİSATI 684,097.15 TL
MUTFAK TESİSATI 1,444,532.94 TL
ÇAMAŞIRHANE TESİSATI 950,971.38 TL
HASTANE TESİSATI 7,592,360.45 TL
YANGIN TESİSATI 1,597,411.15 TL
MAKİNA TESİSATI 2,497,500.00 TL
TOPLAM 55,780,661.14 TL

This is only the mechanical system's price for a 800 bedded hospital from 2013(2013 prices). Architechural, Structural, Electrical, Medical,etc.... prices are not even included you can guess the final price will be over hundreds of millions of TL.

6 Million for a building is pretty much good.
 
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@Sinan

If you say so bro, very well then.

But still I feel 6 millions pretty much for a building which built for this purpose. What do muftus do exactly? I ask coz I really don't know.
 
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Bro, i'm in construction Business....believe me 6 Million is nothing....

MEKANİK TESİSAT İCMALİ
SIHHİ TESİSAT 1,921,454.79 TL
KALORİFER TESİSATI 19,263,984.94 TL
MÜŞTEREK TESİSAT 3,918,628.70 TL
HAVALANDIRMA TESİSATI 10,230,246.14 TL
OTOMASYON TESİSATI 5,679,473.50 TL
BRÜLÖR TESİSATI 684,097.15 TL
MUTFAK TESİSATI 1,444,532.94 TL
ÇAMAŞIRHANE TESİSATI 950,971.38 TL
HASTANE TESİSATI 7,592,360.45 TL
YANGIN TESİSATI 1,597,411.15 TL
MAKİNA TESİSATI 2,497,500.00 TL
TOPLAM 55,780,661.14 TL

This is only the mechanical system's price for a 800 bedded hospital from 2013(2013 prices). Architechural, Structural, Electrical, Medical,etc.... prices are not even included you can guess the final price will be over hundreds of millions of TL.

6 Million for a building is pretty much good.
:o:
 
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Saldırgan Finlilerin , barışçıl KızılOrduya kendilerini zorla bombalatmaya mecbur etmelerinin yıldönümüymüş.
Bu Nasıl bakış açısı .
Bu adamlarla beraber olmaya kalkmak zor iş. Allah Türkiye'nin sonunu hayretsin.

Google translate hatası... Rusça'da söylediği 1939'da barış için savaşan Kızıl ordu askerleri... şeklinde gidiyor...
 
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But still I feel 6 millions pretty much for a building which built for this purpose. What do muftus do exactly? I ask coz I really don't know.
TANIM
Toplumu İslam dini hakkında aydınlatan, din hizmetlerini düzenleyen ve denetleyen kişidir.

GÖREVLER - Toplumu dini konularda aydınlatır, -Dini konularla ilgili sözlü ve yazılı soruları yanıtlar, - Hutbe ve vaaz konularını saptar, - Camilerin açılış ve kapanış saatlerini saptar, - İbadete açılmak istenen yerlere izin vermek için inceleme yapar, -Hac ve umre ziyaretleriyle ilgili işlemleri yürütür, -Dini gün ve bayramları, fitre miktarını tespit ederek halka duyurur.

From this definition, i think it's an institution that regulates Imams. I used to think that every TL that we spend on religion should go to for scientific/technological research&development.

Today, i think that state should have a strong grip on religious matters (I'm talking about Diyanet, not controverting secularism) because by not doing so, you would be vulnerable for the infiltration of extremist ideas which can poison people with their sick ideology , as can be seen at the mosques in Europe.

If you say this.
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Yes, i will agree with you. This is extravagancy, nothing more. But 6 million for a building is reasonable.
 
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From this definition, i think it's an institution that regulates Imams. I used to think that every TL that we spend on religion should go to for scientific/technological research&development.

Today, i think that state should have a strong grip on religious matters (I'm talking about Diyanet, not controverting secularism) because by not doing so, you would be vulnerable for the infiltration of extremist ideas which can poison people with their sick ideology , as can be seen at the mosques in Europe.

If you say this.
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Yes, i will agree with you. This is extravagancy, nothing more. But 6 million for a building is reasonable.
nope no religous organization should receive money from the state, and not when that state is secular it contradicts the secular values..
 
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@Sinan

Bro I don't say diyanet or muftuluk are useless. We need 'em but I against luxury things are given by gov. the things which are bought by our tax pays. But still I think that 6 million for a building which is built for that purpose too much. If it's for diyanet I may say that's ok.

I know that Mercedes story. Islam is not a tool to live a luxury life for those people. That pisses me of.

Anyways.

Just curious, but aren't the Imams or Khodjas in Turkey state sponsored?

Yes they are but in our tradition imams and khodjas do that for ummah and they don't expect anything from the state. Also our people responsible to support 'em.

They are workers of Allah c.c not state.
 
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@Sinan

Bro I don't say diyanet or muftuluk are useless. We need 'em but I against luxury things are given by gov. the things which are bought by our tax pays. But still I think that 6 million for a building which is built for that purpose too much. If it's for diyanet I may say that's ok.

I know that Mercedes story. Islam is not a tool to live a luxury life for those people. That pisses me of.

Anyways.



Yes they are but in our tradition imams and khodjas do that for ummah and they don't expect anything from the state. Also our people responsible to support 'em.

They are workers of Allah c.c not state.

Cool!

Dude, I want to check out Turkey so bad. I want to actually go the rural areas as opposed to the big cities. I have a friend from Giresun, and he says the villages there are beautiful. :smitten:
 
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