Case for AFT-10 in Pakistan's armored divisions

[Philip the Arab]

Armored formations should run with long range anti tanks vehicles like the AFT-10. Operating behind AKs, and Zarrars these vehicles could engage and destroy numerous Indian vehicles while staying out of range of counter fire with their 10km range. I think Chinese could mount these on Viper afvs(without passengers) for example which would allow easy serviceability if Pakistan inducts the Viper IFV.
Viper IFV, if inducted it could probably be modified to carry an AFT-10 turret.

These missiles would have no problem* penetrating any Indian vehicles known to man from T-90s, to T-72s, to Arjuns.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

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Armored formations should run with long range anti tanks vehicles like the AFT-10. Operating behind AKs, and Zarrars these vehicles could engage and destroy numerous Indian vehicles while staying out of range of counter fire with their 10km range. I think Chinese could mount these on Viper afvs(without passengers) for example which would allow easy serviceability if Pakistan inducts the Viper IFV.
Viper IFV, if inducted it could probably be modified to carry an AFT-10 turret.

You are saying mount HJ 12 on them which has max 10km range?

 

[Philip the Arab]

You are saying mount HJ 12 on them which has max 10km range?

Yes mounting them on Viper IFV if inducted, this would involve gutting troop carrying capacity which would allow extra space for crew to operate.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Yes mounting them on Viper IFV if inducted, this would involve gutting troop carrying capacity which would allow extra space for crew to operate.

What if we deploy these missiles on M113?

 

[Philip the Arab]

What if we deploy these missiles on M113?

Well possible, but I don't think M113s will run with armored divisions, IFVs are meant to run with tanks. M113s are taxis, IFVs are meant to defend themselves, and engage enemy vehicles.
I could be wrong so I will enjoy corrections from anybody.

 

[Bilal.]

CM501 series is more interesting. It can be integrated into our counter IBG setup and can take precision pot shot at indian armor and troops from stand off range and completely blunt it.

CM501 and SY400(for long range precision strikes) are two most interesting systems.

 

[Philip the Arab]

CM501 series is more interesting. It can be integrated into our counter IBG setup and can take precision pot shot at indian armory and troops from stand off range and completely blunt it.

CM501 and SY400(for long range precision strikes) are two most interesting systems.

This is unrelated, that is more of a short range LACM, this is a battlefield weapon.

 

[Bilal.]

This is unrelated, that is more of a short range LACM, this is a battlefield weapon.

Not exactly an LACM more of an NLOS missile system like AFT10 but longer ranged.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Not exactly an LACM more of an NLOS missile system like AFT10 but longer ranged.

70km range is pretty far, that would be good for single targets but taking out entire armored units would be hard.

Do you guys know if there would be armored battles, and where would they be most likely? The LOC?

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

@Bilal. We have NASR for 70km. 70km NASR with Sub Munition warhead would wreck havoc on Indian Attacking formations

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Well possible, but I don't think M113s will run with armored divisions, IFVs are meant to run with tanks. M113s are taxis, IFVs are meant to defend themselves, and engage enemy vehicles.
I could be wrong so I will enjoy corrections from anybody.

M113 can be used, but it makes more sense to make them unmanned. Israel is doing this

Turkey is carrying out this work Fnss. In IDEF 19, FNSS introduced the Unmanned M113, and also announced the new engine and transmission (powerpack) to be used for TUMOSAN (Turk Engine Endustries) M113. The engines and gearboxes of the M113 will likely be unmanned. This is the only way to use the old M113s effectively, there is no way to endanger the soldiers in that trash can. Pakistan should consider this.

 

[Philip the Arab]

M113 can be used, but it makes more sense to make them unmanned. Israel is doing this

Turkey is carrying out this work Fnss. In IDEF 19, FNSS introduced the Unmanned M113, and also announced the new engine and transmission (powerpack) to be used for TUMOSAN (Turk Engine Endustries) M113. The engines and gearboxes of the M113 will likely be unmanned. This is the only way to use the old M113s effectively, there is no way to endanger the soldiers in that trash can. Pakistan should consider this.

What if communication is jammed? And the IFV above is not just a M113, it is a unarmored IFV with similar protection to the M2 Bradley.

@Bilal. We have NASR for 70km. 70km NASR with Sub Munition warhead would wreck havoc on Indian Attacking formations

That could work, I doubt only 1 conventional missile would work, and who knows if India will interpret it as a tactical nuclear weapon and retaliate which could end in MAD.

 

[Bilal.]

@Bilal. We have NASR for 70km. 70km NASR with Sub Munition warhead would wreck havoc on Indian Attacking formations

It’s a nuclear quasi ballistic missile. Different role. CM501 NLOS will be able to hit moving target.

CM501 is basically a Chinese counter part of cancelled US XM501.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

doubt only 1 conventional missile would work

Well maybe 8-12 will be used

 

[Philip the Arab]

Well maybe 8-12 will be used

Indians will perceive it as a nuclear strike in my opinion especially with all the news of Pakistan trying to develop tac nukes.

It’s a nuclear quasi ballistic missile. Different role. CM501 NLOS will be able to hit moving target.

CM501 is basically a Chinese counter part of cancelled US XM501.

It is apparently a copy of Spike NLOS, at least according to Mil Today. Israelis produce good missiles, so I wouldn't doubt its capabilities.