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By Shahzad Chaudhry
Published: October 20, 2010

Pakistan has been in the throes of a rumoured reconstitution of the government under the army’s patronage, similar to what Bangladesh enacted in a hybrid judicial-technocrat government. Planned as a clean-up therapy to bring some sense to the alternatively vindictive policies of both Hasina Wajed and Khaleda Zia, it additionally aimed at weeding out the corrupt.
The Bangladesh army did a couple of things better: one, they did not directly take over power, and two, while cleaning the corrupt from the system, carried out a thorough census and instituted a strong and independent Election Commission. The Election Commission’s insularity from any external influence was so explicitly manifested that Khaleda Zia initially boycotted the elections for a clear failure to be able to manipulate the commission for favour. We in Pakistan got involved in some other acts, chief were the infamous NRO condoning corruption and a blatant misstep to neuter the judiciary.
Since elections in 2008 and the return of Hasina Wajid under a relatively cleansed dispensation, the Bangladesh model has undergone some even more significant variations, perhaps a Bangladesh Model II. It is worth a look.
Under Ms Wajid, Bangladesh enacted an act to declare the country secular. This has separated the clergy from all matters of governance, political interference and issuing fatwas in matters of personal life. Next, a revolution of sorts has come about with the Grameen experience. Ordinary rural women have been empowered by small loans and guidance to invest in garment manufacturing and this has helped unshackle them from the religious straitjacket and presumed male domination. And, the fact is that these women are the real force behind the rise of Bangladesh’s garment industry. They have chosen to educate their daughters at the same level as their sons and also have smaller families. Importantly, the mullah’s ability to interfere in their belief system has been curtailed by the state.
Bangladesh today is the world’s fourth highest exporter of garments — at $12 billion a year (this for a country that grows no cotton!). Investors and entrepreneurs from neighbouring countries, particularly Pakistan and Sri Lanka, are shifting their manufacturing plants to Bangladesh. Under Hasina Wajid, the economy has been averaging annual GDP growth of six per cent for the past three years. Bangladesh has near universal literacy and is far ahead of other South Asian nations in achieving the Millennium Development Goals. Around a million Bangladeshis leave their shores every year for employment in foreign countries and contribute over $10 billion a year in remittances. In another innovation, the central tax authorities held two fairs to enable citizens to join the income tax payment scheme. What happened? Long lines formed as they joined in to be a part of the drive and pay the applicable taxes.
Bangladesh is, with great national pride, the literal better-half of the erstwhile Pakistan. That needs to be applauded. And that is the model we need in Pakistan.
The question is that are there any takers? Are we going to change our ‘hate-India’ mindset as Bangladesh has done, freeing resources for the economy? Of course, at the same time, can we do without the army chaperoning this infantile democracy, especially since democracy itself seems unwilling to grow and the state is unable to make all those who should pay actually pay tax.
 
Internet world is different from real world.

People to people contact should be encouraged.
 
By Shahzad Chaudhry
Published: October 20, 2010

Pakistan has been in the throes of a rumoured reconstitution of the government under the army’s patronage, similar to what Bangladesh enacted in a hybrid judicial-technocrat government. Planned as a clean-up therapy to bring some sense to the alternatively vindictive policies of both Hasina Wajed and Khaleda Zia, it additionally aimed at weeding out the corrupt.
The Bangladesh army did a couple of things better: one, they did not directly take over power, and two, while cleaning the corrupt from the system, carried out a thorough census and instituted a strong and independent Election Commission. The Election Commission’s insularity from any external influence was so explicitly manifested that Khaleda Zia initially boycotted the elections for a clear failure to be able to manipulate the commission for favour. We in Pakistan got involved in some other acts, chief were the infamous NRO condoning corruption and a blatant misstep to neuter the judiciary.
Since elections in 2008 and the return of Hasina Wajid under a relatively cleansed dispensation, the Bangladesh model has undergone some even more significant variations, perhaps a Bangladesh Model II. It is worth a look.
Under Ms Wajid, Bangladesh enacted an act to declare the country secular. This has separated the clergy from all matters of governance, political interference and issuing fatwas in matters of personal life. Next, a revolution of sorts has come about with the Grameen experience. Ordinary rural women have been empowered by small loans and guidance to invest in garment manufacturing and this has helped unshackle them from the religious straitjacket and presumed male domination. And, the fact is that these women are the real force behind the rise of Bangladesh’s garment industry. They have chosen to educate their daughters at the same level as their sons and also have smaller families. Importantly, the mullah’s ability to interfere in their belief system has been curtailed by the state.
Bangladesh today is the world’s fourth highest exporter of garments — at $12 billion a year (this for a country that grows no cotton!). Investors and entrepreneurs from neighbouring countries, particularly Pakistan and Sri Lanka, are shifting their manufacturing plants to Bangladesh. Under Hasina Wajid, the economy has been averaging annual GDP growth of six per cent for the past three years. Bangladesh has near universal literacy and is far ahead of other South Asian nations in achieving the Millennium Development Goals. Around a million Bangladeshis leave their shores every year for employment in foreign countries and contribute over $10 billion a year in remittances. In another innovation, the central tax authorities held two fairs to enable citizens to join the income tax payment scheme. What happened? Long lines formed as they joined in to be a part of the drive and pay the applicable taxes.
Bangladesh is, with great national pride, the literal better-half of the erstwhile Pakistan. That needs to be applauded. And that is the model we need in Pakistan.
The question is that are there any takers? Are we going to change our ‘hate-India’ mindset as Bangladesh has done, freeing resources for the economy? Of course, at the same time, can we do without the army chaperoning this infantile democracy, especially since democracy itself seems unwilling to grow and the state is unable to make all those who should pay actually pay tax.

There is equal, if not more hate from Indians towards Pakistan. I've never seen an Indian say a good thing about Pakistan, although the vice versa is seen in good amounts.
 
Its impossible........... at least for this guy.. ^^^^^^^^
 
There is equal, if not more hate from Indians towards Pakistan. I've never seen an Indian say a good thing about Pakistan, although the vice versa is seen in good amounts.

thats because our population is greater:woot:
 
I think the hatred is mutual, and will not go away any time soon.

At least Pakistanis are able to write articles about changing their 'hate-India' mindset, never heard any article of changing the 'hate-Pakistan' mindset before from an Indian. And I've never heard an Indian say one good thing about Pakistan, while there are more than enough Pakistanis that praise India.
 
I was talking about Indians hating Pakistan.



How old are you?

Oh alright .. :lol: ... the thread title was different.

Check the age thread for age. I think one is running in members club.
 
I think the hatred is mutual, and will not go away any time soon.

I think the problem rises because India does not believe Jinnah's struggle for Pakistan was legitimate. They called Jinnah a power hungry extremist, while he was the total opposite. Anyone who defends Jinnah is vilified in India, while Gandhi is generally well respected in Pakistan.
 
At least Pakistanis are able to write articles about changing their 'hate-India' mindset, never heard any article of changing 'hate-Pakistan' mindset before. And I've never heard an Indian say one good thing about Pakistan, while there are more than enough Pakistanis that praise India.

this is what wrong with you guys. why do you need someone else to praise you guys? are you that insecured that you want to hear someone else singing your praise all the time? if you guys think you are good enough.. why do you give a damn about the rest? have some pride for love of god!! btw.. no one is asking you guys to praise india anyway!! if you are doing it for the sake of expecting the same in return.. please don't bother!!
 
this is what wrong with you guys. why do you need someone else to praise you guys? are you that insecured that you want to hear someone else singing your praise all the time? if you guys think you are good enough.. why do you give a damn about the rest? have some pride for love of god!! btw.. no one is asking you guys to praise india anyway!! if you are doing it for the sake of expecting the same.. please don't!!

We don't need someone to praise us, you need to accept the fact that you hate Pakistan at an inexplicable level. It's about acceptance, & you talk about Pakistan hating you all the time, but are never willing to accept the hate coming from your side. It's the utmost hypocrisy.
 
We don't need someone to praise us, you need to accept the fact that you hate Pakistan at an inexplicable level. It's about acceptance, & you talk about Pakistan hating you all the time, but are never willing to accept the hate coming from your side. It's the utmost hypocrisy.

let the world think whatever or hate whoever!! why are you so concerned if you think you are good enough? why you want the certificate from indians to tell you how good you are? don't you know yourself that you are good enough??
 
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