Can today's India compare to China around 15 years ago?

[ProphetX]

When I see slum dogs in sub China forum trolling, I can do the same in Indian Sub forums.
You want us to stop? You better stop trolling in China sub forum.

Boy this thread is on fire!

Keep coming you red commie nuts, ill throw you all over...

 

[xunzi]

There is no comparison to be made of. India is an unorganized, undisciplined country. It will take a major cultural revolution to change their way of thinking about modernization.

 

[rott]

Boy this thread is on fire!

Keep coming you red commie nuts, ill throw you all over...

What will a clerk at a 7/11 throw, Prateek or a Patel?

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

why r u comparing China to them then?

Only compare towards those better than u- not the other way round.

do a comparison on how china is compared to the US a decade ago.

 

[ProphetX]

There is no comparison to be made of. India is an unorganized, undisciplined country. It will take a major cultural revolution to change their way of thinking about modernization.

Ooh like the great chairman made cultural revolution to eliminate the unworthy chinese people, insee mao the great still has some supporters

 

[xunzi]

Ooh like the great chairman made cultural revolution to eliminate the unworthy chinese people, insee mao the great still has some supporters

That why most Indian lives in the slumdog meanwhile the average Chinese is getting richer and enjoying better health and services. It's this typical mindset of Indian that prevent you from being a laughingstock to the world.

 

[ProphetX]

What will a clerk at a 7/11 throw, Prateek or a Patel?

Was that supposed to be racist?

I dunno ill go ask Xu at the massage parlor or maybe Li at the chinese takeout.

 

[rott]

Was that supposed to be racist?

I dunno ill go ask Xu at the massage parlor or maybe Li at the chinese takeout.

That's all you got?
I am outta here. I don't wanna get banned.

That why most Indian lives in the slumdog meanwhile the average Chinese is getting richer and enjoying better health and services. It's this typical mindset of Indian that prevent you from being a laughingstock to the world.

Ignore him bro. He wanna get you banned.

 

[ProphetX]

That's all you got?
I am outta here. I don't wanna get banned.


Ignore him bro. He wanna get you banned.

one red chinese thrown outta the ring, nine more to go..

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Ooh like the great chairman made cultural revolution to eliminate the unworthy chinese people, insee mao the great still has some supporters

Buddy, calm down and don’t engage the trolls. You’re going to get yourself banned. There’s no point.

 

[xunzi]

Ignore him bro. He wanna get you banned.

If I have to deep thought comment to say about the major difference between Indian and Chinese is the mindset. They think every steps must result in an immediate impact meanwhile Chinese think more about the "end game". That's why the modernization and development between the two is so vastly different that no comparison can be made. Today in 2018, a saint Indian can look and tell you that.

 

[rott]

If I have to deep thought comment to say about the major difference between Indian and Chinese is the mindset. They think every steps must result in an immediate impact meanwhile Chinese think more about the "end game". That's why the modernization and development between the two is so vastly different that no comparison can be made. Today in 2018, a sane Indian can look and tell you that.

Did you mean a SANE Indian?
Unfortunately or fortunately there are not many of them.

 

[Dungeness]

Indians always compare it with today's China over everything, while there is virtually nothing comparable. But if we compare today's India with China around 15±3 years ago, are they comparable then?
Well, there is a hot debate on quora.com about 2017's India vs China in 2004. https://www.quora.com/India’s-economy-is-2-trillion-dollars-which-China-had-in-2004-but-I-dont-see-the-same-living-standard-infrastructure-in-India-as-China-had-in-2004-What-should-we-correct
It seems even those more practical, modest and humble Indians are very confident on this comparison, let alone those ignorant and arrogant ones mentioned above. But the harsh reality is that in terms of development, India can hardly match China in the early 2000s.
As the saying goes: seeing is believing. My way of judging things would always be primarily based on what I see, either in person or from videos (not the propaganda ones, but filmed by ordinary people). Statistics comes secondary, and can be used as support. Let's first see some videos to get a direct impression, and then look into some apparent statistics:

Shenzhen around 2006:

AC buses, decent cars, office buildings, the degree of orderliness, we can not find such level of development anywhere in today's India.
Same is true for:
Shanghai in 2002:

Shanghai in 2000:

Besides urban development, lets compare the infrastructure like railways:
We have the magnet train since 2004:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_maglev_train
And a bunch of self developed high speed EMUs like:
200km/h class "Blue Arrow" EMU (entered service since 2001):
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJJ1型电力动车组

270 km/h "China Star" EMU (entered service since 2005, and later cancelled due to development new generation CRH trains)
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJJ2型电力动车组

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT_iOqa5g-Q
These are not seen in today's India either.

Expressway:
China had over 19,000 km length of expressways in 2001, ranked 2nd in the world, while India has less than 2,000 km today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressways_in_India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressways_of_China
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1016/j.polsoc.2012.01.007

Car sales:
Total auto sales number of China in 2003 was 4,39 million, while this number for India in 2017 is 4.02 million. The numbers look similar, but let's take a closer look at what kind of cars were sold:
http://xxw3441.blog.163.com/blog/static/753836242017267391228/
http://news.bitauto.com/hao/wenzhang/650270
China in 2003:
No.1 VW Jetta: 143,121 units
No.2 VW Santana: 122,663 units
No.3 VW Passat: 122,445 units
No.4 Tianjin Xiali: 96,180 units
No.5 VW Santana2000: 92,892 units
No.6 Buick Regal: 89,988 units
No.7 Honda Accord: 80,450 units
No.8 VW Bora: 78,068 units
No.9 Changan Alto: 61,302 units
No.10 Audi A6: 53,108 units
http://auto.sohu.com/2004/04/09/50/article219785057.shtml
As you can see, except Alto, all are serious cars, as you have already seen from the Chinese city videos above.
India in 2017:
1. Maruti Suzuki Alto – 257,732 units
2. Maruti Suzuki Swift Dzire – 225,043 units
3. Maruti Suzuki Baleno – 177,209 units
4. Maruti Suzuki Swift – 167,371 units
5. Maruti Suzuki Wagon R – 166,814 units
6. Hyundai Grand i10 – 154,787 units
7. Maruti Suzuki Vitara Brezza – 140,945 units
8. Hyundai Elite i20 – 134,103 units
9. Hyundai Creta – 105,484 units
10. Maruti Suzuki Celerio – 100,860 units
https://www.carwale.com/news/highest-selling-cars-of-india-in-2017/
If you are interested, do check what kind of little midget cars are sold and running on Indian streets...
And let's compare the luxury car sales:
For India, in 2017, all the luxury brand cars combined sold less than our Audi A6 model alone (53,108 units), let alone the BMW, Mercedes-Benz and other Audi models.
India's luxury car sales in 2017:
"Continuing last year’s trend, Mercedes-Benz has retain top position by selling 15,300 units in 2017, an improvement of around 16% from the previous year. BMW group (including Mini) too managed to register a splendid growth of 25%, up from 7,500 units in 2016 to 9,800 units in 2017."
https://www.rushlane.com/luxury-car-sales-for-2017-12259854.html

In terms of GDP per capita, today's India should be comparable with 2005's China,(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita) But even with the factors such as inflation taken into consideration, India's low purchasing power like buying cars are just unbelievable, for example, in the early 2000s, cars like VW Passat , Honda Accord, and Buick Regal cost around 40,000 USD; While Audi A6 cost more than 60,000 USD in China. Even VW jetta or Santana costs around 15,000 USD, (the exchange rate then is around 1USD=8CNY), but still we saw significant sales for these models; but in today's India, people can only afford those Suzuki and Hyundai little midget cars; any cars with a price tag above USD 20,000, can hardly achieve any significant sales. Very weird indeed.

Based on these simple and apparent facts, although Indians talk loudly and boast hard all over the internet about their development and growth, such as SP2012, the reality is a little bit bitter for them, and about their true level of development, what do you think?

I read the Quora page, lol, majority of them are seriously brainwashed, badly. Just look how many "up vote" to those regular BS by Indian posters that have been repeated thousands of times everywhere. Critical thinking is not their forte, but the OP was exceptional among Indians.

They said the Tallest Fire Wall is in one's mind, not on the net.

 

[5PuLiOut112]

Please. That's also considered humble. I've argued with another poster who claimed that India will reach the HDI of France and the US by 2030. And he's not a troll, he genuinely believes in it.

How is it possible that Indians can be this deluded?
His Logic, HDI in Kerala is similar to China (it isn't), and China's GDP per capita is higher, therefore India will be more developed than China.

I read the Quora page, lol, majority of them are seriously brainwashed, badly. Just look how many "up vote" to those regular BS by Indian posters that have been repeated thousands of times everywhere. Critical thinking is not their forte, but the OP was exceptional among Indians.

Indians on any social media website are the same. Just deluded and act like a hivemind with one saying "INDIA SUPERPOWER BY 2020!"

 

[sinait]

Chinese in general don't hate Indians, we just have a distaste for all bragging and bluffing. Many Indian members happened to enjoy demonstrating these characteristics on this forum, and your politicians are not acting like role models either. Hence the negative impressions.

That was before.
Now more people of all nations are beginning to hate the Indians after knowing the following.
India atrocity and wanton killing in Kashmir.
India atrocity and rapes in the North East, Nagaland by the AFSPA.
India image of unbelievable filth by their open defecating practice by the millions, 600 million.
India constantly provoke China by manipulating their CIA puppet the Dollar Lama.
India theft of South Tibet.
India collusion with the West to undermine China.

Previously adverse news of India do not interest the Chinese or being suppressed.
With the internet, Chinese are beginning to realize the evil of India especially after Donglang standoff.
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Ignore the troll, bro. He's insignificant. Just trying to be an attention seeking whore.

It can also be a trolling contest.
See who gets the ban.
Just have to stay relevant while debunking the trolls, in our spare time.

Its an opportunity to show the trolls what a shit country and culture they have and hopefully they get enlightened and educated while trolling.
And we have fun doing that.
Time wasted trying to convert these trolls can be considered a good deed
WIN WIN.
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