Can Nuclear War Be Won?

[FuturePAF]

Yeah I mentioned that I was 5 when the blackout of 03 occured it was a walk in the park but annoying since no Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network for me all my pops had was 1010 WINS on the radio

Old timers in NY will tell you 77 was the worst because looting,and frankly arson but NY that time was almost flat broke abs NY did not recover economically and crime decrease only occured in the early 90s

Wow, you were 5, I was in college. '03 was nothing really. A day and half and we were back up and running. In a week people were mostly over it.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Wow, you were 5, I was in college. '03 was nothing really. A day and half and we were back up and running. In a week people were mostly over it.

Feeling old right now lol,yeah exactly it was just a day and fast became distant memory

 

[Smarana Mitra]

I think "Second strike capability" is useful for huge or sparsely populated countries like Russia and USA. In smaller or densely populated countries like India and Pakistan, it is obvious that it is MAD.

Second strike capability is useful only for tiny and weak countries who can be easily invaded. Countries which are large and powerful can't be invaded and hence it is impossible to take out all the assets

If India collapses in on itself into tiny states, I wonder what it will do to its ability to maintain its nuclear facilities.

Why will India collapse into multiple pieces? On what basis?

Yes it can be and many countries are working towards that.


1) Building deep bunkers and spreading them around the country....which can house civilians and military populations, grow food and whatnot.

2) The rise of in-vitro meat and meat made from non-meat sources (and tasting exactly like meat) is a step towards surviving a nuclear winter. Also Aqua/Hydroponics.

3) After complete nuclear bombardment, the nation(s) with the most amount of bunkers and above resources including stocks of ammo, supplies and raw materials would be in the best position of rise back again.

4) After rising back again, maybe in 5-30 years (?) they can exert their rule on the region and then the rest of the world....since nations/people without measurements against nuclear war would still be trying to survive whereas the aforementioned nation(s) would be thriving.

Firstly, nuclear effect is short lived. The radiation etc are overhyped and only works if there is nuclear waste. Nuclear explosion uses only about 4-6 kg of plutonium which hardly generate much waste. So, once the blast is over and the injured are treated, life is back to normal in less than 3-4 months. Civilian economy will be hit but strategic logistics will remain active.

Secondly,most of the food is grown on fields which are too large to be taken out by nuclear strike. Even though some reservoirs can be struck, there is always enough food as buffer stock for survival. Also, there will be food rationing and diversion of all non food crops into food crops to reduce food shortage.

Thirdly, nuclear bombs can't take out all the buildings, factories just by missile strike. These things need intensive aerial attack to be destroyed.

Finally, countries like India can easily afford to lose 10 crore people in major cities and still fight on without end. There is very little one could do with nuclear bombs to make a large country like India lose. Big population will mean that India will have enough blood to lose and still fight on.

 

[asad000003]

Nuclear war can be won. You need a defence system that can protect major cities. Secondly, you need advance weaponry that is beyond nukes. Thirdly, you need the world's best intelligence secret service to infiltrate beyond borders, to verify how eminent is the threat level. Forth, you need to disarm the enemy by any mean necessary before they have the chance to commit mass genocide.

The above case is only if you talk about any other countries besides Pak vs Ind. In terms of India, one can easily push them over by exposing the world of their extremist agenda through worst political leaders, allow them to oppress minorities in their own states for chaos, while simply manipulating one of the minority communities in the name of religious harmony and using them to implode the country without any bloodshed. The minority community who's religious ties have compromised them, will eventually win and topple the aggressive political leadership. They will remain in power for a while until someone will trigger the switch. That will bring End to one of the world's oldest dynasties.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Nuclear war can be won. You need a defence system that can protect major cities. Secondly, you need advance weaponry that is beyond nukes. Thirdly, you need the world's best intelligence secret service to infiltrate beyond borders, to verify how eminent is the threat level. Forth, you need to disarm the enemy by any mean necessary before they have the chance to commit mass genocide.

The above case is only if you talk about any other countries besides Pak vs Ind. In terms of India, one can easily push them over by exposing the world of their extremist agenda through worst political leaders, allow them to oppress minorities in their own states for chaos, while simply manipulating one of the minority communities in the name of religious harmony and using them to implode the country without any bloodshed. The minority community who's religious ties have compromised them, will eventually win and topple the aggressive political leadership. They will remain in power for a while until someone will trigger the switch. That will bring End to one of the world's oldest dynasties.

I dont believe there will be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan. India will collapse into mini states long before then.

The danger of nuclear war is more between US, Russia, and China. The other theatre is that of Israel's wars on Arabs and Iranians.

In this scenario, Pakistan deterrence has and will be protective in light of Israel, which will use nukes on defenseless populations.

 

[Khanivore]

Firstly, nuclear effect is short lived. The radiation etc are overhyped and only works if there is nuclear waste. Nuclear explosion uses only about 4-6 kg of plutonium which hardly generate much waste. So, once the blast is over and the injured are treated, life is back to normal in less than 3-4 months. Civilian economy will be hit but strategic logistics will remain active.

Secondly,most of the food is grown on fields which are too large to be taken out by nuclear strike. Even though some reservoirs can be struck, there is always enough food as buffer stock for survival. Also, there will be food rationing and diversion of all non food crops into food crops to reduce food shortage.

Thirdly, nuclear bombs can't take out all the buildings, factories just by missile strike. These things need intensive aerial attack to be destroyed.

Finally, countries like India can easily afford to lose 10 crore people in major cities and still fight on without end. There is very little one could do with nuclear bombs to make a large country like India lose. Big population will mean that India will have enough blood to lose and still fight on.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Who is he and what data he has? Unless there is real evidence, these things are just bogus. They will say anything to suit their interests. It has got nothing to do with what is real. They even claimed that Iraq had WMD while it had nothing. Don't waste time on these opinions