Can Jordan offer Pakistan any defence equipment?

[Signalian]

RJAF flies F-16 and AH-1 that Pakistan also flies.
Army has M-109, M-110, M-113 derivatives.

 

[Philip the Arab]

RJAF flies F-16 and AH-1 that Pakistan also flies.
Army has M-109, M-110, M-113 derivatives.

Do you want them to sell you these? If you guys wanted AH-1s you could have gotten the 12 ex-Israeli Cobras up for sale.

 

[Signalian]

Do you want them to sell you these? If you guys wanted AH-1s you could have gotten the 12 ex-Israeli Cobras up for sale.

During war days, its difficult to induct new weapons since soldiers cant be trained on new system at that time, its best to get same equipment that PA already uses, to replace losses at least.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Appreciate the gesture from Jordanian friends

The tools we have are enough , the most important aspect to have is the will and determination in the holder of the weapon's control

 

[Philip the Arab]

During war days, its difficult to induct new weapons since soldiers cant be trained on new system at that time, its best to get same equipment that PA already uses, to replace losses at least.

The war is paused for now. There are flaws in every army and Pakistan can fix them while preparing for India and analyzing new tactics take the truck mounted 105mm m101 for example. You eliminate a whole lot of logistics because now you don't need separate vehicles to tow the artillery to the battlefield. Jordan also offers GPS systems which can help make sure everybody in a group knows where to find troops.
Here you go I found more products that another Jordanian company offers.
The Soldier System

The Soldier System is a compact electronic unit located within integrated harness and holder, it consists of the following modules :

• • High-Sensitivity GPS.
  • Digital Compass.
  • Barometric sensor ( Optional ).
  • Short Range Data Link.
  • Main System Battery.

The system provides basic SA and navigation information to the single soldier and also info message relaying to the higher level.

Download Brochure (PDF file)

http://www.jels-tech.com/images/pdf/digital_soldier_and_universal_commander_units.pdf

This could be useful to Pakistan considering how many of you guys say Pakistan's troops are ill equipped for the modern battlefield.

 

[Trango Towers]

I mean the penetration is pretty much same as the tandem warhead RPG-7 but can I ask you why Pakistan has no IFVs that I know of?

Pak produces several

 

[Philip the Arab]

Pak produces several

They are not dedicated IFVs like the M2 Bradley though they are M113 with pretty bad armor if you ask me.

 

[Trango Towers]

Why do the arabs have people who cannot speak english

Agreed and you can mount it on most vehicles including Humvees, Technicals etc.



Or stop paying Russia 150 million for four helicopters maybe?

They are not dedicated IFVs like the M2 Bradley though they are M113 with pretty bad armor if you ask me.

I agree re M113

 

[Philip the Arab]

Why do the arabs have people who cannot speak english



I agree re M113

What I'm trying to say is that they all originate from an APC while most modern IFVs are developed independently which means more specific development for a certain role. The M113 can take 14.5mm rounds from the DSHK while the M2 Bradley can take rounds up to at least 25mm so the M113 can not operate with tanks as well as say a BMP-3.
How is my English bad? If you are referring to me I speak and write in fluent English albeit most of the time without punctuation.

 

[Signalian]

The war is paused for now.

Have you seen the situation at LOC?
Do you know how much movement is going on in both countries towards borders?
Formations serving on western front are being called to East. There is an state of emergency that PA is fully aware of but not letting the public panic.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Have you seen the situation at LOC?
Do you know how much movement is going on in both countries towards borders?
Formations serving on western front are being called to East. There is an state of emergency that PA is fully aware of but not letting the public panic.

I'm gonna bet nothing major is going to happen and if something does you can hold me to it. Pakistan will learn some lessons from this and should be ready for next time by expanding defense partnerships.

 

[Pindi Boy]

I think Pakistan govt. need to focus more to minimize waste, which is a result of electing inept people to the parliament.
One govt. take one step forward, than second govt. take two step back. that's how it function in Pakistani democracy. In the end we are worst than before.
Lahore was much cleaner in 80's when tax collection was fraction of what we pay to Imran Khan.

Imran khan paisei ghar lei jata hai ??

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I mean the penetration is pretty much same as the tandem warhead RPG-7 but can I ask you why Pakistan has no IFVs that I know of?

Pakistani IFVs

Hamza

Viper

I'm gonna bet nothing major is going to happen and if something does you can hold me to it. Pakistan will learn some lessons from this and should be ready for next time by expanding defense partnerships.

Nothing major except heavy exchange of fire and mobilisation.

Do you want them to sell you these? If you guys wanted AH-1s you could have gotten the 12 ex-Israeli Cobras up for sale.

We already got a sqd of Ex jordanian cobras + 13 F-16 ADFs.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Pakistani IFVs

Hamza
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Nothing major except heavy exchange of fire and mobilisation.


We already got a sqd of Ex jordanian cobras + 13 F-16 ADFs.

They're IFVs are Ok but not dedicated and in no way to they offer the protection that for example an M2 Bradley offers.

 

[bananarepublic]

They're IFVs are Ok but not dedicated and in no way to they offer the protection that for example an M2 Bradley offers.

Pakistan Has a different concept of armored warfare compared to Jordan, m113 act as battle taxis and are not there to support infantry (except tow/baktar shikan equipped M113s) recently Pakistan introduced Viper IFV which might be used in PA Strike cor against India.

What Jordan should be selling to Pakistan is various parts i.e turret,missiles,Armour to Pakistan.