Can Jordan offer Pakistan any defence equipment?

[Philip the Arab]

Current hard-kill systems can protect armored vehicles against all type widely used ATGM solutions. They are effective so Modern armies started to induct active protections into their armed forces so It is needed to develop a new RPG solution to cheat them with using their working principle against them. This time, For example, Turkish Akkor radar using C band bandwidh is able to track the real munition instead of tricker one to fire killer munitions against actual one. Turkish hardkill system will be operated as a part of tank fire control system and MMW radars will provide 360 degree situation awareness. The special algorithms on this radars are able to distinguish the target objects to classify them...

In theory shoulder launched kinetic energy penetrators go to fast(Mach 5) to be intercepted though so if that ever happens Hard kill systems will need to be changed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Kinetic_Energy_Missile

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Bradley is 30mm resistant which is Stanag 6. The newer versions have better technology than the Viper.

Bullshyt!


Bradley offers the same protection as Viper;
1x 25mm canon
6 passengers (including 3 crew)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Bradley


If anything Viper offers;

Remote Controlled Turret! Unlike manned one on Bradley!

Armed with the following weapons;
1x 30MM Canon
2x Anti Tank Guided Missiles
1x 7.62MM Machine Gun
6x Grenade Launchers (Smoke Grenades)
13 Passengers (3 crew)


It provides the same protection as Bradley IFV with half the weight and no ERA, however you can up armour it with additional modular armour, and ERA plated.

And carries 13 fully equiped troops!
And is had higher power to weight ratio and much lower weight!

Also, F-16s can be upgraded to the V variant which is better than the JF-17. They are getting Marders, and Centauros actually. What are you talking about for MLRS? Jordan has Himars and the WM-120 MLRS which are very capable. Challengers are from the 80s actually so they aren't very old and still viable today. All the M109s can be upgraded to A6 so that isn't something to worry about. Jordan has better SAMs than you though which you forgot to mention. Where you guys mess up is guided missiles? Where are your fire-and-forget missiles?

JF-17 Block II is equivalent to Gripen C/D variant.
Block III will get a boost with a more powerful powerplant, AESA, IRST,HMDS and more composite frame.. making it on par with any F-16 variant you throw at it.
While Pakistan develops its next 5th generation fighter project under Project Azm.

Marder is a 70s IFV reasonable protection but leaser fire power, main weapon;
1x 25mm canon.


Centauro
Not many nations operate dedicated tank destroyers nowadays, whats the need to have an inferior gun on wheels instead of a modern tank armed with a 125mm smoothbore!


And you only have 100-200 of each.

Jobara is an impractical weapon.. 1 strike and its done.. it also suffers from limited mobility and a huge logistics problem. It would take several loading vehicles and number of troops simultaneously to reload.

Wm120 was replaced by A-100 and im going to bet Jordan has them in limited numbers.

We produce A-100s and missiles in Pakistan.

Infact it would soon be Tier 2 or medium ranged MLRS in Pakistan inventory after our new Advanced MLRS comes into service.

We have rebuild and overhauling facilities for M109 series lol.

SAMs? Yes we have LY-90 LOMADs,HQ series, SPADA 2000 aspide etc and indigenous Anza series MANPADs!

Our guided missiles? Lol start counting;

Baktat Shikan;

TOW 1 & II variants
Hellfire
Burq ATGM launched by Burraq UCAV


Fire and forget missile is lacking but Pakistan has shown interest in Turkish anti tank missiles.
Another option is HJ.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Bullshyt!


Bradley offers the same protection as Viper;
1x 25mm canon
6 passengers (including 3 crew)

View attachment 544478

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Bradley


If anything Viper offers;

Remote Controlled Turret! Unlike manned one on Bradley!

Armed with the following weapons;
1x 30MM Canon
2x Anti Tank Guided Missiles
1x 7.62MM Machine Gun
6x Grenade Launchers (Smoke Grenades)
13 Passengers (3 crew)


It provides the same protection as Bradley IFV with half the weight and no ERA, however you can up armour it with additional modular armour, and ERA plated.

And carries 13 fully equiped troops!
And is had higher power to weight ratio and much lower weight!


View attachment 544481 View attachment 544480 View attachment 544479





JF-17 Block II is equivalent to Gripen C/D variant.
Block III will get a boost with a more powerful powerplant, AESA, IRST,HMDS and more composite frame.. making it on par with any F-16 variant you throw at it.
While Pakistan develops its next 5th generation fighter project under Project Azm.

Marder is a 70s IFV reasonable protection but leaser fire power, main weapon;
1x 25mm canon.


Centauro
Not many nations operate dedicated tank destroyers nowadays, whats the need to have an inferior gun on wheels instead of a modern tank armed with a 125mm smoothbore!


And you only have 100-200 of each.

Jobara is an impractical weapon.. 1 strike and its done.. it also suffers from limited mobility and a huge logistics problem. It would take several loading vehicles and number of troops simultaneously to reload.

Wm120 was replaced by A-100 and im going to bet Jordan has them in limited numbers.

We produce A-100s and missiles in Pakistan.

Infact it would soon be Tier 2 or medium ranged MLRS in Pakistan inventory after our new Advanced MLRS comes into service.

We have rebuild and overhauling facilities for M109 series lol.

SAMs? Yes we have LY-90 LOMADs,HQ series, SPADA 2000 aspide etc and indigenous Anza series MANPADs!

Our guided missiles? Lol start counting;

Baktat Shikan;
View attachment 544494
View attachment 544495
TOW 1 & II variants
Hellfire
Burq ATGM launched by Burraq UCAV


Fire and forget missile is lacking but Pakistan has shown interest in Turkish anti tank missiles.
Another option is HJ.

What about automatic laser target tracking? Check out post #69 for this which I think could work for Pakistan since the concept is simple. The Kornet-E uses this system to fire salvos of missiles.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

What about automatic laser target tracking? Check out post #69 for this which I think could work for Pakistan since the concept is simple. The Kornet-E uses this system to fire salvos of missiles.

What about it?
we even fitted baktar shikan missiles on cobras in the 90s.

We do produce laser designators etc.

 

[Philip the Arab]

What about it?
we even fitted baktar shikan missiles in cobras in the 90s.

We do produce laser designators etc.

They aren't fire and forget if you know what that is. You have to be able to track a target without an operator guiding it and the Kornet follows the vehicle or target automatically while the operator can do other things.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

They aren't fire and forget if you know what that is. You have to be able to track a target without an operator guiding it and the Kornet follows the vehicle or target automatically while the operator can do other things.

Yeah we lack a Fire n forget ATGM.

They aren't fire and forget if you know what that is. You have to be able to track a target without an operator guiding it and the Kornet follows the vehicle or target automatically while the operator can do other things.

Also Pak bought alcotan 100 atgms ...
Personally think RPG-32 is a better weapon.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Yeah we lack a Fire n forget ATGM.


Also Pak bought alcotan 100 atgms ...
Personally think RPG-32 is a better weapon.

It is of course. Alcotan isn't a ATGM its an RPG. RPG-32 could maybe be guided if a guidance system was put into place like the Panzerfaust 3. Why does Pakistan not buy HJ-12s?