Can India replace China as driver of world GDP growth over next 20 years?

[TaiShang]

World Bank - GDP as of 2015

Top Ten Banks in the World (2016)

 

[Dungeness]

If Modi continues for 20 years, it will be very difficult to distinguish between the people of India and China.

What do you mean? If Modi in power for 20 years, he would turn Indian into Chinese? It doesn't make any sense.

 

[cirr]

India certainly knows how to make its GDP look bigger by adopting SNA 2008 at the earliest possible time.

Like all the "developed" countries have done.

China should take a leaf out of India's book in this department.

China's economic output, when calculated using the new UN standard, will be "inflated" to the tune of some 2 trillion USD.

 

[Dungeness]

The exact quote was :-
"I share this aspiration to transform Mumbai in the next five years in such a manner that people would forget about Shanghai" -- By Manmohan Singh in 2004
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh

You and Indian media are twisting the words. I don't know your prowess at English, but Aspiration and Prediction/Bragging have clear cut difference and it shows in the sentence.


This was Kalam, and he said it in a context and his exact words were :

"Though I have envisioned India to become a superpower by 2020, the attitude and the confidence of the youth, to conquer everything in the right spirit, would make the country a global leader and superpower within five years"

The context was that of achievements of ISRO in space technology.

Now compare both the statement which you are saying and what was actually said. Again 'would' and 'will' convey two different meaning and 'envisioned' has very different meaning than boasting 'will'. His statement was one meant to positively re-enforce young scientists at ISRO not to boast about India being a super power.

Actually in case of Space research, india is fairly close to achieve status of superpower. If not by 2020 then by 2025.

I can go into each of the statement that you have posted, however, the above two IMHO are enough to prove my point. In India we have a concept of freedom of thoughts and expression AND yes it means allowing media to twist the words and context. This is the price of freedom of speech. Anyways, Chinese have a long way to enjoy basic freedom of speech rights in China, so lack of understanding is well.. understandable

Thanks for your effort to explain, you tried. You are welcome to dress up every Indian bragging into "Indian inspiration", and it doesn't hurt the image of any other country. In China, we take what the head of government said seriously, and we hold him accountable for what he said. We will not let him get away for something like "Forget about America, China will be THE superpower in 5 years", though in your logic it is just an "inspiration".

We read HEADLINES from Indian media and threads from PDF Indians, as we are not interested in figuring out what a particular Indian government official really meant when he said something. Blame your bigmouth officials and sensational media outlets for all the misunderstanding.

 

[Shajida Khan]

Thanks for your effort to explain, you tried. You are welcome to dress up every Indian bragging into "Indian inspiration", and it doesn't hurt the image of any other country. In China, we take what the head of government said seriously, and we hold him accountable for what he said. We will not let him get away for something like "Forget about America, China will be THE superpower in 5 years", though in your logic it is just an "inspiration".

We read HEADLINES from Indian media and threads from PDF Indians, as we are not interested in figuring out what a particular Indian government official really meant when he said something. Blame your bigmouth officials and sensational media outlets.

Question -- who is this 'We' you talk about in your post?

 

[Dungeness]

Question -- who is this 'We' you talk about in your post?

All Chinese members who think Indians are bragging too much.

 

[Shajida Khan]

All Chinese members who think Indians are bragging too much.

You mean all the Chinese membership of PDF? Then it is fine. Cya.

 

[Dungeness]

You mean all the Chinese membership of PDF? Then it is fine. Cya.

You obviously missed this part: .....who think Indians are bragging too much. But I am not sure if there is any single Chinese member thinks otherwise.

 

[Shajida Khan]

You obviously missed this part: .....who think Indians are bragging too much. But I am not sure if there is any single Chinese member thinks otherwise.

Doesn't matter, it is still the superset of what you were intending to say and probably they both are same. Anyways, cya.

 

[武成王]

If Modi continues for 20 years, it will be very difficult to distinguish between the people of India and China.

I also hope Modi stay in power for 20 years, seriously.

 

[TaiShang]

India certainly knows how to make its GDP look bigger by adopting SNA 2008 at the earliest possible time.

Like all the "developed" countries have done.

China should take a leaf out of India's book in this department.

China's economic output, when calculated using the new UN standard, will be "inflated" to the tune of some 2 trillion USD.

Thanks for your effort to explain, you tried. You are welcome to dress up every Indian bragging into "Indian inspiration", and it doesn't hurt the image of any other country. In China, we take what the head of government said seriously, and we hold him accountable for what he said. We will not let him get away for something like "Forget about America, China will be THE superpower in 5 years", though in your logic it is just an "inspiration".

We read HEADLINES from Indian media and threads from PDF Indians, as we are not interested in figuring out what a particular Indian government official really meant when he said something. Blame your bigmouth officials and sensational media outlets for all the misunderstanding.

Indian inspiration is really superpower(ful).

The reality, however, is less so.

When bragging (yearning badly for a certain status) fails to match ground reality and actual capability, it is marketed as inspiration.

Inspiration that neither feeds, nor clothes, nor provides a shelter.

 

[grey boy 2]

Until one day, Indians will seriously improve their "fundamental flaws" through hard work instead of "constant bragging and feeding off "future tense" if, may, will etc feels good day dreams, you will remained as what you're as for today for years to come, in the mean time, please feel free to dream on as usual cos its free

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-approach-to-science/articleshow/53201796.cms

 

[Jacob Martin]

Anyone looking for a zero sum choice between India and China is not comprehending how the globalized economy works.

To a certain extent, both countries are so large that they are self-contained economies where growth can be driven internally. But beyond that, both need trade and investment. Today China is a net producer and India a net consumer. The health of the producer and consumer economy are equally vital. So if the producer economy is secretly wishing to undermine the consumer economy, then it is effectively shooting itself in the foot.

 

[I S I]

lol India Stronk.

 

[footmarks]

It doesn't matter who replaces whom. What matters is whether the life of a common citizen becomes better or not. On this, perhaps yes, India is growing at a significant pace. Construction work, which we are so used to of seeing in major metros, now can be seen in small cities and towns too. There is construction going on everywhere - roads, bridges, highways. However - While the pace of GDP growth is important, on grounds, it is the pace of completion of projects that need to speed up. It simply takes too much time to complete and construction or infrastructure project here in India.

Other thing is the planning - it is not keeping pace with the pace of development (read: the infra growth is not keeping pace with economic growth). New highways/expressways, meant to handle increasing traffic for coming 25 years, are becoming chocked till the time they start operating. More cars are coming to the roads than the road expansion can accommodate.

India, as we always have been, is a chaotic harmony. We are growing fast, we can see it all around us. We know it. Such reports and projections and comparisons are just that - a journal/research paper/editorial.

Most of the Indians have only heard of China and its massive economic transformation. A lot of anecdotal and fiction laced stories float around India of how 1000KM bridge across the sea was built in China in just a year, how chinese railways can clock 500KM/Hr, how big are chinese factories (like - as big as our whole town!). ofcourse, none has ever been to China (and there are a lot of negative stories also, but that's not the point of this post). China is a symbol, for common Indians, of how the growth need to be spectacular, not only fast. How we need to show off, not just run fast. It's a pointless exercise, but not futile. China also "benchmarks" against the one bigger/faster/stronger than it. At this point, only US remains ahead, so China likes to compare with US. Our media is a bit more sensationalist, so we compare with everyone ahead of us. Good thing though, the list ones ahead of us is shortening.