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Can India really be the ‘next China’?

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The bulls say India is the 'next China'. Odds are they are right, if not today then within a decade or so. But even if this proves to be right in terms of growth, India is a very different country than China on many fundamental dimensions, demography and democracy being key. But most importantly, China has been built on infrastructure, investment and manufacturing, while India has barely scratched the surface on all three.

India began its economic reform in the early 1990s, more than a decade after China. But in the past 25 years, China has turbocharged its economy while India has languished in relative terms. Why?

Chinese growth has been driven by some of the world's highest investment rates. This has, in turn, made possible an infrastructure revolution of new cities, high-speed rail lines, airports and ports and manufacturing muscle that is the envy of the world. China has also been the world's factory for 20 years. Its ability to quickly and efficiently move what it produces domestically and around the world has been a critical ingredient in its growth miracle.

Today, India lags far behind China on all three dimensions. India invests about 30% of its GDP, compared with about 50% in China. Manufacturing is about 20% of the Indian economy, compared to China's about 30%. China has arguably the best physical infrastructure outside the western world. India's looks more like the poor country that it still is.

But this is a real opportunity for India. Increase investment. Improve infrastructure. Grow economic output. This is a tried and true path to growth, and it is one India is poised to follow.

Consider India's vaunted tech sector. We all know about the incredible Indian talent running some of America's tech icons. Google's CEO Sundar Pichai did his undergraduate degree in India before coming to the US for a Stanford Masters and a Wharton MBA. Likewise, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella received his undergraduate degree in India and followed up with diplomas from US graduate schools. These and so many other Indian-American tech sector executives are testament to the power of the immigration-innovation nexus in the US.

However, don't let these rock star CEOs fool anyone into thinking the only way for Indian technologists to succeed is to work in the US for American firms. Homegrown, and still home-centered, companies like Tata Consultancy Services (TCS), Infosys and Wipro are real world leaders when it comes to information technology. And Indian entrepreneurs are killing it today in startups with people like Punit Soni at FlipKart and Kunal Bahl at SnapDeal.

The growth of Indian tech has been fuelled by large-scale private sector investment, from both India and abroad. These companies needed infrastructure to thrive, but the infrastructure was digital not physical — allowing Indian IT firms to beam information and analysis from India to the world and back, long before anyone was talking about 'the Cloud'. They didn't need to ship widgets because their products were all in bits.

About a decade ago, some optimists thought India could leapfrog over the manufacturing and physical infrastructure stage of development (widgets) to build the whole economy around digital (bits). Today, it is clear that while India's tech sector is fantastic and growing, the country will have to develop the old-fashioned way, with better infrastructure and more manufacturing.

What will determine whether India can become a bit more 'Chinese' when it comes to infrastructure and manufacturing? Unlike China, the answer will not be government investment, because the Indian state is hamstrung by endemic budget deficits of big subsidies and limited taxation.

The 'Make in India' initiative is so promising because it does not rely on the Indian government. Boldly launched with a goal of India surpassing China in direct foreign investment, 'Make in India' is a clarion call for global firms to increase their financial commitment to India. Now innovative firms as diverse as Samsung, Lenovo and Boeing have publically supported the initiative proving that the private sector is ready to step in.

Yet it seems that the private sector won't act until it is more confident about politics. Nowhere is India more different from China than in the world of politics. But this doesn't mean that India won't go on a growth charge the way China has. The raw material India has to work with is so rich. The challenge now is to catalyse it.


Can India really be the ‘next China’? - The Economic Times
 
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India to move ahead of China in coming days: Jayant Sinha | Business Standard News

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India would leave China behind in terms of growth and development in the coming days, union Minister of state for Finance Jayant Sinha said on Monday.

"In the coming days, India will leave China behind as far as growth and development matter," Sinha told the media here.

He was on a visit to Bihar to review the progress of rescue and relief operations after earthquakes and thunderstorms caused heavy loss of life and property, including standing crops.

The minister, however, refused to say how India would move ahead of China, the world's second largest economy.

Upbeat over Prime Minister Narendra Modi's just-concluded visit to China, Sinha said India would soon benefit from it.

Stating that the prices had come down under MOdi's rule of the last one year, the minister said the country's growth and development has been taking shape.
 
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India can never be next China because we are so different. I don't mean that India will be less successful in anything. It's just that Indians ar so big mouthed and wouldn't ever do things first...
 
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India to move ahead of China in coming days: Jayant Sinha | Business Standard News

Jayant-India-to-move-ahead-of-China-in-coming-days-300x160.jpg


India would leave China behind in terms of growth and development in the coming days, union Minister of state for Finance Jayant Sinha said on Monday.

"In the coming days, India will leave China behind as far as growth and development matter," Sinha told the media here.

He was on a visit to Bihar to review the progress of rescue and relief operations after earthquakes and thunderstorms caused heavy loss of life and property, including standing crops.

The minister, however, refused to say how India would move ahead of China, the world's second largest economy.

Upbeat over Prime Minister Narendra Modi's just-concluded visit to China, Sinha said India would soon benefit from it.

Stating that the prices had come down under MOdi's rule of the last one year, the minister said the country's growth and development has been taking shape.

Indians learn bragging from their leaders. There is evidence of that all over PDF.
 
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India must not think of overtaking any country.
India must work harder and smarter until the last citizen doesn't sleep with hunger.
India must not have any other ambitions for now.
I agree. Governments of any country should do what's best for its people and not worry about its standing or ranking in the world. The situation is different for each country and no two are alike so each has to govern and manage according to its own unique situation and needs. A focused pragmatic approach was one reason why China was so successful in the last 35 years. China's leadership studied other countries and learned from history and governed in a way based on her her unique history and culture. China's way forward cannot be duplicated. India must find her own way forward she certainly has the potential to do so.
 
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We all know what "photobombing" is. Where a person uses another event to get their face in the frame. Well I call this thread "piggybacking". In this instance by bracketing India with China it allows the Indian's to milch the latter's incredible achievements. This is another instance of plain bragging and deception.

The reality is "India will be the next China". No doubt about it. However that is in the context of population. By 2022 India will overtake China in population and will sit at No.1 slot presently occupied by China.

On all other fronts India will and is synonymous with Africa. India excels in mass poverty, mass starvation, mass open defecation, mass slums, mass homelesness and mass use of humans as draft animals. The pictures below speak eloquently of India being part of Team Africa then Team China.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/world/asia/09food.html

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Click > Starving India

We can cherrypick tragic situations in any country even in fact the West however what defines India is the scale. We are talking about 100s of millions. So I am afraid India is not going anywhere until at least it pulls out of Africa.

Of course it does not stop empty bragging and bluster.

Click > Man as beast - India
 
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Confucian values and work ethic make China what it is now and it's what made China great in the past. You can also include other East Asian nations that follow similar ideologies and is heavily influenced by Confucian values.

India will develop but it will be in an Indian way and at Indian pace. Nobody will ever match what China has done in last few decades. China's rise is founded on hard work and effort, along with organization and planning that can only be achieved with absolute control that is afforded by a totalitarian regime, such as CCP. India is too caught up in Western-like worker's rights to endure what Chinese factory workers went through to lift their nation out of poverty. India's inefficient and corrupt democracy will never become organised enough to achieve China-like success. As India's population increases and they remain backwards in essential infrastructure and development, India will face grave social problems as feeding and keeping more mouths healthy and happy become mounting problems.

Like I said before, India will develop but at an Indian pace and not necessarily to Chinese levels of success. There's no shame in that.
 
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We all know what "photobombing" is. Where a person uses another event to get their face in the frame. Well I call this thread "piggybacking". In this instance by bracketing India with China it allows the Indian's to milch the latter's incredible achievements. This is another instance of plain bragging and deception.

The reality is "India will be the next China". No doubt about it. However that is in the context of population. By 2022 India will overtake China in population and will sit at No.1 slot presently occupied by China.

On all other fronts India will and is synonymous with Africa. India excels in mass poverty, mass starvation, mass open defecation, mass slums, mass homelesness and mass use of humans as draft animals. The pictures below speak eloquently of India being part of Team Africa then Team China.

01-POD-may-day-IndiaInk-blog480.jpg


233976-rajni-waits-with-her-mother-at-the-clinic-in-central-india.jpg


Food-articleLarge.jpg


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/world/asia/09food.html

untitled.jpg


Click > Starving India

We can cherrypick tragic situations in any country even in fact the West however what defines India is the scale. We are talking about 100s of millions. So I am afraid India is not going anywhere until at least it pulls out of Africa.

Of course it does not stop bragging and bluster.

It's a sad reality that India wish the world will not notice. It's hunger, rebellion and use of human as draft animals, something that only happened in the west before 1850s. It's sad that India brags about the future while ignores the present. At least I don't see white people pulling rickshaws in the India 2030 supa powa video. White people were just taxi drivers. LOL

Confucian values and work ethic make China what it is now and it's what made China great in the past. You can also include other East Asian nations that follow similar ideologies and is heavily influenced by Confucian values.

India will develop but it will be in an Indian way and at Indian pace. Nobody will ever match what China has done in last few decades. China's rise is founded on hard work and effort, along with organization and planning that can only be achieved with absolute control that is afforded by a totalitarian regime, such as CCP. India is too caught up in Western-like worker's rights to endure what Chinese factory workers went through to lift their nation out of poverty. India's inefficient and corrupt democracy will never become organised enough to achieve China-like success. As India's population increases and they remain backwards in essential infrastructure and development, India will face grave social problems as feeding and keeping more mouths healthy and happy become mounting problems.

Like I said before, India will develop but at an Indian pace and not necessarily to Chinese levels of success. There's no shame in that.

Indians believe that it will overtake China in 10-15 years . By 2012, the world will forget about Shanghai and talk only about Bombay.
 
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I agree. Governments of any country should do what's best for its people and not worry about its standing or ranking in the world. The situation is different for each country and no two are alike so each has to govern and manage according to its own unique situation and needs. A focused pragmatic approach was one reason why China was so successful in the last 35 years. China's leadership studied other countries and learned from history and governed in a way based on her her unique history and culture. China's way forward cannot be duplicated. India must find her own way forward she certainly has the potential to do so.


Well, they have already found their way: Hindutva!

It's a sad reality that India wish the world will not notice. It's hunger, rebellion and use of human as draft animals, something that only happened in the west before 1850s. It's sad that India brags about the future while ignores the present. At least I don't see white people pulling rickshaws in the India 2030 supa powa video. White people were just taxi drivers. LOL



Indians believe that it will overtake China in 10-15 years . By 2012, the world will forget about Shanghai and talk only about Bombay.

No. that was Singh said in 2004, so Bombay will take over Shanghai by 2009. 2012 is the year they become a superpower.
 
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Yep, India is the next China because as China climbs up the ladder of economic, millitary, industrial and manufacturing ladder upwards...those at the low end of food chain will step up to occupy the spaces...so obviously when China of today moves forward, the India of yesterday steps forward to take a place..this is evolution of a nation..
 
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Indians believe that it will overtake China in 10-15 years . By 2012, the world will forget about Shanghai and talk only about Bombay.

Shanghai forgotten? Good work, congrats!
 
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