Can India go behind enemy lines to target Hafeez Saeed and Dawood Ibrahim?

[Irfan Baloch]

I will be blunt and with facts I will say that Wahabism is not your culture, I am calling it a culture because it has Arabic influence. On the ideologies of Ibn Tahymiya, which is more of political than religious relevance. People in Pakistan have confused between faith and culture and they mix islam with culture.

yes.. and?

you are preaching a converted.
I know that is the case..

 

[Geek]

That's a strange claim to make.

We're not the ones with TTP training camps being hosted on our soil.

China does not export any ideology, neither religious or political.

I think she is blaming China now because of the statement for Chinese Minister about solving the boarder dispute between India and China..
LOL now they well blame China also like they blame India, USA, Afghanistan and Iran for all their problem.
It's like Pakistan is only holy country in Asia and all other countries are sending terrorist in their beautiful country
Think what will they say if Boarder dispute end between India and China and relation improve

 

[Screambowl]

yes.. and?

you are preaching a converted.
I know that is the case..

Then I don't understand why are we discussing such off topic posts. ISIL etc has nothing to do with dawood and hafeez.

 

[FenrirX]

I think she is blaming China now because of the statement for Chinese Minister about solving the boarder dispute between India and China..
LOL now they well blame China also like they blame India, USA, Afghanistan and Iran for all their problem.
It's like Pakistan is only holy country in Asia and all other countries are sending terrorist in their beautiful country
Think what will they say if Boarder dispute end between India and China and relation improve

We never fought against CHINA,And now india is planning some secret stuff against PAKISTAN and CHINA ,the kind of relationship we have with CHINA is impossible for india to have.
Dil ka mamla hy dilber.....:p

 

[foxbat]

We never fought against CHINA,And now india is planning some secret stuff against PAKISTAN and CHINA ,the kind of relationship we have with CHINA is impossible for india to have.
Dil ka mamla hy dilber.....:p

Dus saal pehle tak USA ke saath bhi aapka dil ka hi maamla tha

 

[Geek]

Dus saal pehle tak USA ke saath bhi aapka dil ka hi maamla tha

LOL yahi mein bolne wala tha

We never fought against CHINA,And now india is planning some secret stuff against PAKISTAN and CHINA ,the kind of relationship we have with CHINA is impossible for india to have.
Dil ka mamla hy dilber.....:p

Yeh dil ka mamla bhi India-China relation ki wajeh se hai ek baar solve ho gaye toh Dil toot jayega aapka

 

[FenrirX]

Dus saal pehle tak USA ke saath bhi aapka dil ka hi maamla tha

Poking much

 

[FenrirX]

LOL yahi mein bolne wala tha



Yeh dil ka mamla bhi India-China relation ki wajeh se hai ek baar solve ho gaye toh Dil toot jayega aapka

Since when ???
our relationship is THE RELATIONSHIP
Don't you feel the love in the air,feel it,aaaaah....

 

[Geek]

Since when ???
our relationship is THE RELATIONSHIP
Don't you feel the love in the air,feel it,aaaaah....

Since 1962 Indo-China War and 1965 Indo-Pak War
Acha yeh toh batao iss relationship ne ladka kon hai or ladki kon ?

 

[That Guy]

India all use Afgan warlords to do the operations inside pakistan....

Of course they do, India has always used terrorists against Pakistan, that's pretty much common knowledge. I'm just surprised that Indians are now openly declaring it.

 

[nik22]

Of course they do, India has always used terrorists against Pakistan, that's pretty much common knowledge. I'm just surprised that Indians are now openly declaring it.

Every country use covert activities. US, Israel everyone does. Are they known as terrorist nation? Most people would say no.
Why is Pakistan known as Terrorist nation?
There is a saying in India "Bad achha badnam bura". Meaning bad reputation is worse than bad act

 

[That Guy]

Every country use covert activities. US, Israel everyone does. Are they known as terrorist nation? Most people would say no.
Why is Pakistan known as Terrorist nation?
There is a saying in India "Bad achha badnam bura". Meaning bad reputation is worse than bad act

That doesn't really change anything I've said. Previously, Indians on the forum would deny any such activity, but now that Modi is in power, many of them have come out of the wood work and started boasting about such links to terrorist organizations.

By the way, covert action doesn't imply having direct links to terrorists.

 

[qamar1990]

New Delhi: In 2011, American Special Forces conducted a covert operation in Abbottabad, Pakistan to take down their most wanted man,Osama Bin Laden.

There are speculations that India- under the leadership of Prime MinisterNarendra Modi- may carryout similar strikes targeting Jamat ud-Dawah Chief Hafiz Sayeed andDawood Ibrahim.

Newly appointed National Security Advisor Ajit Doval is known for his support for surgical strikes to target anti-India elements inside Pakistani territory. Even the PM has advocated the use of force across the border, at least once.

In the run up to the Lok Sabha polls, in an interview to a leading newspaper, Modi had indicated that he may opt for a 'covert strikes' if he comes to power.

When asked to elaborate, Modi replied, "Did US conduct a press conference before carrying out Abbottabad strikes? Giving an indication that a covert military strikes in the lines of US Navy SEALs operation in Abbottabad might well be on his mind.

In an article, written in 2012 by Ajit Doval, the NSA spoke about the importance of covet action.

"A low cost sustainable offensive with high deniability aimed to bleed the enemy to submission," wrote Doval.

According to Doval, surgical strikes, curbing infiltration and taking the terrorists face-on are far more advantageous than conventional war, which are expensive and risk-prone.

Post 26/11 Mumbai Terror Attacks, the two serving chiefs declared that the Indian military had the capabilities to carry out a US style commando raid and Islamabad warning of dire consequences. Indian Air Force had proposed to bomb terror hideouts inside Pakistani territory. The government turned down the proposal.

To sanction a covert operation outside Indian territory- a political consensus needs to be achieved along with a full-proof military and intelligence plan.

Last year, a news report published in the Hindustan Times had indicated that Indian Armed Forces may have carried out covet operation in the Pakistani territory.

The military intelligence unit set up by former Army Chief General VK Singh may have been involved in sensitive covert operations in Pakistan and was even on the trail of 26/11 mastermind and Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed, the reports said.

The Technical Service Division (TDS) was set up after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks on a defence ministry directive asking for the creation of covert capability. The TSD was raised as a strategic force multiplier for preparing, planning and executing special operations “inside depth areas of countries of interest and countering enemy efforts within the country by effective covert means.

The objective of TSD was defined as - “The proposed organization (TSD) will enable the military intelligence directorate to provide a quick response to any act of state-sponsored terrorism with a high degree of deniability. Its task was to carry out special missions and “cover any tracks leading to the organisation”.

It was eventually disbanded after reports surfaces that the unit has spied on ministry officials through off-the-air interceptors.

It is believed that the unit carried out several covet military operations within and outside Indian territory- such as Op Rehbar 1, 2 and 3 (in Kashmir), Op Seven Sisters (Northeast) and Op Deep Strike (Pakistan).

Carrying out a successful covet operation will not be a walk in the park. India will have to revamp its intelligence, political and military structure before adopting the policy of surgical strikes behind enemy lines. India is yet to establish a unified Command Center. The nuclear ability of its neighbours (Pakistan and China) and its not-so-robust military and intelligence setup have proved to be a major road block.

Few years back, a senior Israeli security official in India was asked what was needed to mimic his country’s success in targeted operations.

He replied, “It all boils down to political will. If you send soldiers to hunt down one man, they must know that they will be supported by their government irrespective if elections happen, prime ministers change. If that isn’t there, then it can never happen.”

Can India go behind enemy lines to target Hafeez Saeed and Dawood Ibrahim? - daily.bhaskar.com

kinda like that bollywood movie with arjun rampal?
no you can't. you will get slaughtered like pigs.

 

[Indischer]

kinda like that bollywood movie with arjun rampal?
no you can't. you will get slaughtered like pigs.

Witch please! We achieve a lot in Bollywood which we can't in real life. Like how we beat the Brits with just a month of training in Cricket and secured a tax waiver, like how our lasses won the Hockey World Cup, Like how our Punjabi strongman single-handedly beat the $hit out of them Lahoris and brought back his wife and kid safely home, like how our agents have averted everything from an outright nuke attack to a dirty bomb attack. About time you Pakistanis got used to it and accepted our Bollywood's version of things......................

 

[nik22]

That doesn't really change anything I've said. Previously, Indians on the forum would deny any such activity, but now that Modi is in power, many of them have come out of the wood work and started boasting about such links to terrorist organizations.

By the way, covert action doesn't imply having direct links to terrorists.

The guys who are boasting, do they know reality? Probably no one knows the truth. The one who knows will not be on this forum. Some Indian people would like to think Modi and NSA as Bond. But they are not. They got some power but it is not a movie. Some guys would like that Modi keeps Pakistan on trigger but it is not going to happen. Some Indian people counter argue with Pakistani that we are doing things in Balochistan, TTP. But again do they know reality?
Please do not go by what people say on forum. I trust from your posts, you have far better judgment.