Can DRDO’s FMBT Project survive Russia’s Next Gen Tank Project ?

[shree835]

While Arjun MK-II Has been going through fresh Army trials for last few months as per improvements and upgrades required by Indian army, there is also a possibility that they will be no fresh orders for Arjun MK-II, Army has been asking DRDO to focus on Futuristic Main Battle Tank (FMBT) project.

But Army is still undecided on the specifications for its next generation battle tank. According to sources close to idrw.org Indian army was not much interested in DRDO’s FMBT Project in the first place and even pulled in Israelis tank consultants for advice on development of next gen Tanks. Israelis left India with a puzzled look, since Indian army was advised by them to invest in future variants based on Arjun tank and not to go for building a new tank from scratch like they want for FMBT.

Arjun MBT was tested by Israeli tank experts in India to validate DRDO’s claim that Tank is fighting fit and has overcome all the technical issues earlier reported by Indian army , it was termed “Desert Ferrari “ by Israeli’s for its brute fire power and impressive armour . According to sources Indian Army only considered working with DRDO when Russians confirmed cancellation of “T-95” Tank Project they were working on.

But according to recent media reports Russian Leadership were shown several prototypes of the Russia’s next generation Armata main battle tank which will go for testing this year , The Armata’s design incorporates aspects of other projects, including Object 195 and Black Eagle which were cancelled by Russia , Armata tank will reportedly feature a remotely controlled gun and fully automated loading, as well as a separate crew compartment made from composite materials and protected by multilayered armour.

Russian Army will start taking delivery of these new tanks by 2015 and it is likely that Russian army will be ordering more than 2000 tanks to replace older T-tanks in its arsenal and will also be available for exports. DRDO’s FMBT is yet to take off from Paper since Army is yet to work out on the specification of the tank, it will be interested to see if DRDO Project survives, Indian Armies love for Russian T-tanks, since they always will be pushed from Russians for possible sale of new Tank.

Russians recently tried to tempt India with new T-90 variant termed T-90MS, but Indian army was not much impressed by the tank, but it is highly likely that Russians will again try to tempt India with this new tank in future, and it will be interesting to see if Indian army ditches local effort for foreign imports?.Army wants a Lighter 50 tonne FMBT from DRDO, Interestingly Armata will be of same weight, so are our generals waiting for detail specification of Armata to be out before they put out FMBT Specification based on Armata? , will FMBT be another local effort with limited orders just like how Arjun MBT will turn out?



Armata tank will be equipped with new generation 125mm smoothbore gun with an automatic loader and 32 rounds ready to use. Armata shown has a secondary weapon that could be a 57mm grenade launcher mounted on the left of the turret, and a machine gun 12.7 mm mounted on the right side.

Russian Armata will be equipped with a multifuel Diesel engine developing 1,400 to 1,600 hp. There is information that the Armata would also have electric transmission to reduce weight of the vehicle and increase the use of add-on armour. Suspension consists on each side of seven dual rubber-tyre road wheels.

SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

 

[Water Car Engineer]

It needs to survive corrupt assholes-leeches in the system first, lol.

 

[Abingdonboy]

It can and it will. I don't think there is the same appetite for foreign procurements like this anymore. If the IAF have to justify why they want the PC-7 over the HTT-40 then I can't see the IA getting away with a foreign tank purchase now, not when the Arjun is already in service, the MK.2 is coming alon nicely and work on the Mk.3 will begin soon.


I highly doubt this news actually especially as it is from IDRW.


In fact the most recent news is quite the opposite- the IA is going for the Mk.3 as the FMBT and that they are preparing to order many more Mk.2s as well as support assets like BLTs built on the Arjun Chassis.



I call BS.

 

[SR-91]

With recent changes to procurement policies,"make Indian buy Indian", MK2 and MK3 will have a future in IA.Downgraded RS will play a major role also.

 

[a.kumar]

It can and it will. I don't think there is the same appetite for foreign procurements like this anymore. If the IAF have to justify why they want the PC-7 over the HTT-40 then I can't see the IA getting away with a foreign tank purchase now, not when the Arjun is already in service, the MK.2 is coming alon nicely and work on the Mk.3 will begin soon.


I highly doubt this news actually especially as it is from IDRW.


In fact the most recent news is quite the opposite- the IA is going for the Mk.3 as the FMBT and that they are preparing to order many more Mk.2s as well as support assets like BLTs built on the Arjun Chassis.



I call BS.

FMBT based on Arjun MK3 ?? , Now i call that BS , MK-2 is 67 tonne monster , FMBT will be around 50 + tonne , So what do you think they will just strip the tank and come up with a FMBT ??

MK-3 will happen if Army places orders for more Arjun Tanks , MK-3 will carry minor improvements and upgrades over MK-2 ,

Check your facts first

 

[shree835]

Arjun MK3 and FMBT is two different project...with different configuration and capability.

 

[Abingdonboy]

FMBT based on Arjun MK3 ?? , Now i call that BS , MK-2 is 67 tonne monster , FMBT will be around 50 + tonne , So what do you think they will just strip the tank and come up with a FMBT ??

MK-3 will happen if Army places orders for more Arjun Tanks , MK-3 will carry minor improvements and upgrades over MK-2 ,

Check your facts first

What is say is fact. The Mk.3 will for all intensive purposes be the FMBT, you shall see.

Broadsword: Army proposes to scrap Future Main Battle Tank: instead build successive models of the Arjun

 

[a.kumar]

Article Dated Sun Jan 06 2013, Your Article Dated 27th Nov 12 , so Why DRDO chief is still talking about FMBT ?? I trust DRDO over ajay shukla and his so called sources

FMBT to focus on weight reduction of battle tanks, says DRDO chief

 

[帅的一匹]

How MK3 looks like?

 

[confound thinker]

FMBT based on Arjun MK3 ?? , Now i call that BS , MK-2 is 67 tonne monster , FMBT will be around 50 + tonne , So what do you think they will just strip the tank and come up with a FMBT ??

MK-3 will happen if Army places orders for more Arjun Tanks , MK-3 will carry minor improvements and upgrades over MK-2 ,

Check your facts first

Hey man even if they want to convert Arjun MK2 into a 50 ton FMBT it is possible .
You only need to remove the fourth crew member and go for an automatic loading system.Easily 10-12 tonnes can be reduced.
This coupled with technologically advanced and lighter armor ,we can easily reduce it's weight,if we want.
But I seriously doubt this will be the case.

 

[he-man]

While Arjun MK-II Has been going through fresh Army trials for last few months as per improvements and upgrades required by Indian army, there is also a possibility that they will be no fresh orders for Arjun MK-II, Army has been asking DRDO to focus on Futuristic Main Battle Tank (FMBT) project.

But Army is still undecided on the specifications for its next generation battle tank. According to sources close to idrw.org Indian army was not much interested in DRDO’s FMBT Project in the first place and even pulled in Israelis tank consultants for advice on development of next gen Tanks. Israelis left India with a puzzled look, since Indian army was advised by them to invest in future variants based on Arjun tank and not to go for building a new tank from scratch like they want for FMBT.

Arjun MBT was tested by Israeli tank experts in India to validate DRDO’s claim that Tank is fighting fit and has overcome all the technical issues earlier reported by Indian army , it was termed “Desert Ferrari “ by Israeli’s for its brute fire power and impressive armour . According to sources Indian Army only considered working with DRDO when Russians confirmed cancellation of “T-95” Tank Project they were working on.

But according to recent media reports Russian Leadership were shown several prototypes of the Russia’s next generation Armata main battle tank which will go for testing this year , The Armata’s design incorporates aspects of other projects, including Object 195 and Black Eagle which were cancelled by Russia , Armata tank will reportedly feature a remotely controlled gun and fully automated loading, as well as a separate crew compartment made from composite materials and protected by multilayered armour.

Russian Army will start taking delivery of these new tanks by 2015 and it is likely that Russian army will be ordering more than 2000 tanks to replace older T-tanks in its arsenal and will also be available for exports. DRDO’s FMBT is yet to take off from Paper since Army is yet to work out on the specification of the tank, it will be interested to see if DRDO Project survives, Indian Armies love for Russian T-tanks, since they always will be pushed from Russians for possible sale of new Tank.

Russians recently tried to tempt India with new T-90 variant termed T-90MS, but Indian army was not much impressed by the tank, but it is highly likely that Russians will again try to tempt India with this new tank in future, and it will be interesting to see if Indian army ditches local effort for foreign imports?.Army wants a Lighter 50 tonne FMBT from DRDO, Interestingly Armata will be of same weight, so are our generals waiting for detail specification of Armata to be out before they put out FMBT Specification based on Armata? , will FMBT be another local effort with limited orders just like how Arjun MBT will turn out?



Armata tank will be equipped with new generation 125mm smoothbore gun with an automatic loader and 32 rounds ready to use. Armata shown has a secondary weapon that could be a 57mm grenade launcher mounted on the left of the turret, and a machine gun 12.7 mm mounted on the right side.

Russian Armata will be equipped with a multifuel Diesel engine developing 1,400 to 1,600 hp. There is information that the Armata would also have electric transmission to reduce weight of the vehicle and increase the use of add-on armour. Suspension consists on each side of seven dual rubber-tyre road wheels.

SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

these army ppl need to be spanked hard..............asholes

there should be a condition-------buy arjun or nothing,choice is theirs

height of bullshit!!
they are behaving as if we are USA with unlimited defence budget!!

Hey man event if they want to convert Arjun MK2 into a 50 ton FMBT it is possible .
You only need to remove the fourth crew member and go for an automatic loading system.Easily 10-12 tonnes can be reduced.
This coupled with technologically advanced and lighter armor ,we can easily reduce it's weight,if we want.
But I seriously doubt this will be the case.

there is no need for a 50 ton mbt!!

if u want a lighter tank for hilly areas,keep on using t-90??
wtf is their obsession with 50 tons?

Article Dated Sun Jan 06 2013, Your Article Dated 27th Nov 12 , so Why DRDO chief is still talking about FMBT ?? I trust DRDO over ajay shukla and his so called sources

FMBT to focus on weight reduction of battle tanks, says DRDO chief

without the removal of 4 th person as loader and introducing autoloader,,,,its impossible



and doing this will need totally new design for arjun,,,,,this is the worst planning i have ever seen.............our army has gone total bonkers

 

[he-man]

FMBT based on Arjun MK3 ?? , Now i call that BS , MK-2 is 67 tonne monster , FMBT will be around 50 + tonne , So what do you think they will just strip the tank and come up with a FMBT ??

MK-3 will happen if Army places orders for more Arjun Tanks , MK-3 will carry minor improvements and upgrades over MK-2 ,

Check your facts first

this is cprruption of the highest order i must say.....................just order more arjuns assholes

 

[rockstarIN]

How MK3 looks like?

I dont see any much changes but enhancements in sub systems.

 

[he-man]

I dont see any much changes but enhancements in sub systems.

man we don't know details of mk2 and u are jumping to conclusions on mk3??

 

[Nav84]

Now Indian army should start using Arjun tanks because DRDO has worked hard for improving the latest version and fulfilled every requirement by army. DRDO can only progress if army shows more interest in their products.