California Female Terrorist linked to Red Mosque Cleric

[Irfan Baloch]

Yes, because incompetent, spineless & corrupt politicians & judges feared for their lives, we all know they are anti Pakistani elements who are here only to harm & cripple Pakistan.

I will like to give the example of the wolves again.
when they see that their pack leader is weak they tear him apart themselves.
Musharraf was weak then.. he had so many fronts... he had external pressure to do more and India on the east spoiling for a fight and then the "democracy" funded lawyers and judges on his case to "save Islam",

they sided with the stronger side and also, they were religiously in agreement with lal masjid people.. no matter how many videos and audio's you show them showing and exposing the lies and contradictions of red mosque cleric and his wife.. they will still side with him.

if the Pakistani leaders had followed even Saudi style of dealing with this fitna then it would have been long over and this shameless cleric would have ended in a grave along with his entire blood line.

I politically disagree with KSA on many things but I admire the loyalty of their people and the firm and unapologetic approach of Saudis to deal with dissent.
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[VCheng]

I will like to give the example of the wolves again.
when they see that their pack leader is weak they tear him apart themselves.
Musharraf was weak then.. he had so many fronts... he had external pressure to do more and India on the east spoiling for a fight and then the "democracy" funded lawyers and judges on his case to "save Islam",

they sided with the stronger side and also, they were religiously in agreement with lal masjid people.. no matter how many videos and audio's you show them showing and exposing the lies and contradictions of red mosque cleric and his wife.. they will still side with him.

if the Pakistani leaders had followed even Saudi style of dealing with this fitna then it would have been long over and this shameless cleric would have ended in a grave along with his entire blood line.

I politically disagree with KSA on many things but I admire the loyalty of their people and the firm and unapologetic approach of Saudis to deal with dissent.
.

Just think of how many families are part of Al-Hud-Huda in Pakistan and one can get an idea of just how widespread radicalism has spread throughout Pakistani society, including the military:

California shooter studied at Al-Huda institute: teacher - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

This problem will not be easily solved.

 

[I.R.A]

Okay no matter how I much I wish otherwise but Pakistan has decided (again) that Baghdadi should be found from Cheecho ki Malia, or Cheecha Watani or Lala Moosa.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Just think of how many families are part of Al-Hud-Huda in Pakistan and one can get an idea of just how widespread radicalism has spread throughout Pakistani society, including the military:

California shooter studied at Al-Huda institute: teacher - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

This problem will not be easily solved.

I will step back and say that first we need to realise if there is a problem at all.
although I agree with you, acknowledging our erm "complex" relations and dealings with such elements and building up a certain narrative over decades ... which causes a contradiction to what we say and what we do (by we I mean the Khakis) but I also like to remind the Hamam situation where our better western "allies" are also not immune to this problem.. where should I start ..? from Afghanistan to Syria? ... Libya..?

we are reluctant partners in fight against this terror and we will continue to look the other way and preach our partners to do something what we are not doing ourselves.

one thing I am clear about is that for our (East and west) leaders... Saudi Oil and Hallal Dollars are more dear than Pakistani and American blood... unfortunately.

 

[VCheng]

I will step back and say that first we need to realise if there is a problem at all.
although I agree with you, acknowledging our erm "complex" relations and dealings with such elements and building up a certain narrative over decades ... which causes a contradiction to what we say and what we do (by we I mean the Khakis) but I also like to remind the Hamam situation where our better western "allies" are also not immune to this problem.. where should I start ..? from Afghanistan to Syria? ... Libya..?

we are reluctant partners in fight against this terror and we will continue to look the other way and preach our partners to do something what we are not doing ourselves.

one thing I am clear about is that for our (East and west) leaders... Saudi Oil and Hallal Dollars are more dear than Pakistani and American blood... unfortunately.

Fair points, Sir. The situation is indeed complex, and I will point out that the hamam situation does not pose an existential threat to the West, but it does do so for Pakistan. Looking the other way will only increase the costs to Pakistan even more than what has already been incurred.