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By killing Mansour, US killed Afghan peace process
By Rahimullah Yusufzai
May 23, 2016
Print : National



Yaqoob could be made new head to unite Taliban factions



PESHAWAR: By killing Taliban leader Mulla Akhtar Mohammad Mansour in a drone strike in Balochistan on Saturday, the US has killed the chances of any peace process in Afghanistan.

The Taliban rank and file and whoever is chosen as their new leader won’t be able to justify holding talks with the Afghan government, which is heavily dependent on the US military and economic assistance for its survival, in the changed situation. The new Taliban ameer would have to follow the policies of the late Taliban supreme leader Mulla Mohammad Omar and his successor, Mulla Akhtar Mohammad Mansour, both of whom were against recognizing the pro-US Afghan government and holding peace talks with it.

The US has been generally opposed to engaging in peace talks with the Taliban, whether Afghan or Pakistan. Though it backed the so-called Afghan-owned and Afghan-led peace process and verbally supported talks with the Taliban, its actions haven’t contributed to peacemaking in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The US was aggressively opposed to peace talks with the Pakistani Taliban as it believed this would mean an end to Pakistan military operations against them and free them up to shift to neighbouring Afghanistan to fight against the US-led Nato and Afghan forces. The drone strike by the US in South Waziristan that killed Pakistani Taliban commander Nek Mohammad in June 2004 destroyed the April 2004 peace agreement concluded by the Pakistan Army with the local militants in Shakai.

The US also torpedoed a few other peace initiatives including the one between the Pakistan government and the TTP commander Maulana Faqir Mohammad in Bajaur Agency and with TTP head Hakimullah Mehsud in Waziristan by undertaking drone attacks just in time to derail any prospects of peace through negotiations.

Mulla Mansour had chosen the path of war and one of its consequences could always have been violent death. That it happened due to a missile fired by a US drone in Balochistan’s Naushki district was surprising because there had never been any attack by the CIA-managed unmanned aircraft until now in this province.

The attack would bring to an end the relative safety that Afghan Taliban leaders and members enjoyed in Balochistan. The theatre of drone warfare in Pakistan has been extended to Balochistan from Fata, where an overwhelming majority of the attacks took place, and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, which experienced just one drone strike. This is a clear US message for Pakistan that it won’t hesitate to carry out drone strikes in Balochistan, or elsewhere if need be, if Islamabad didn’t take action against the irreconcilable Taliban figures refusing peace talks with the Afghan government.

With Mansour gone, Taliban would now have to embark upon another uncertain process of choosing their new head. The process last July was messy when acting chief Mansour was hurriedly made the leader to succeed Mulla Omar. A dissident group opposed his leadership and formed a breakaway faction with Mulla Mohammad Rasool as its head.

The search for a new head could cause divisions as it happened last summer, more so due to the realisation that the Taliban no longer have strong leaders such as Mulla Omar or even Mansour.

However, a more likely scenario could be the elevation of someone like Mulla Mohammad Yaqoob, the eldest son of late Mulla Omar, to the status of the new ameer to ensure a smooth transition and unite the fractious Taliban movement. Yaqoob is young and inexperienced, but he is non-controversial and reportedly acceptable to all factions. The Mulla Rasool faction has already hinted that it could rejoin the mainstream Taliban until now headed by Mansour in case Yaqoob is chosen as the new leader. If this happens, the Taliban would emerge as a more united and stronger militant group that would be difficult to tackle for the other stakeholders in Afghanistan.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/print/122017-By-killing-Mansour-US-killed-Afghan-peace-process
 
Definatily now we will see more violence in Afg Taliban already hold 15 provinces. Pak sud do only things which favours Pakistan instead of helping ISAF and by giving afghan angoor ada.. India and ISAF is trying hard to make Talib hate Pak and make them come on table by themselves. do you think Pushtoon will ever listen to those who come from outside and forcefully becoming daddy..
This war is not ending anytime soon.. till foreign forces leave afghan including india.
 
Even if he's alive say bye bye to peace process.
Afghans govt should say thanks to Uncle Sam. But no, they will turn it to Pakistan.
@A-Team please come and curse Pakistan, that they destroyed peace process.
 
Even if he's alive say bye bye to peace process.
Afghans govt should say thanks to Uncle Sam. But no, they will turn it to Pakistan.
@A-Team please come and curse Pakistan, that they destroyed peace process.

Speed up the repatriation of Afghans and keep fencing the border at a rapid pace. Pakistan cannot afford the fallout in Afghanistan. The Yanks didn't have it their way in Afghanistan and are now resorting to other means to destroy our land. Better to close all doors before the crap hits the fan.
 
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Even if he's alive say bye bye to peace process.
Afghans govt should say thanks to Uncle Sam. But no, they will turn it to Pakistan.
@A-Team please come and curse Pakistan, that they destroyed peace process.

There was no peace process, they Talis have killed it by starting the spring aka burka offensive and killing score of civilians in Kabul. The NUG and Ashraf Ghani provided them ample opportunities to make peace but the chose war and in the end he is dead now. From the Afghan perspective there is not such thing as peace, the NUG will destroy them with firepower.

Fvck Afghanistan. Speed up the repatriation of Afghans and keep fencing the border at a rapid pace. Pakistan cannot afford the fallout in Afghanistan. The Yanks didn't have it their way in Afghanistan and are now resorting to other means to destroy our land. Better to close all doors before the crap hits the fan.

Manners is something pretty expensive these days for some people it seems.

Reported!
 
There was no peace process, they Talis have killed it by starting the spring aka burka offensive and killing score of civilians in Kabul. The NUG and Ashraf Ghani provided them ample opportunities to make peace but the chose war and in the end he is dead now. From the Afghan perspective there is not such thing as peace, the NUG will destroy them with firepower.



Manners is something pretty expensive these days for some people it seems.

Reported!

You also live in Pakistan? You should be deported first.

Fvck Afghanistan. I said it again. Tell your people to leave our land and go to India.
 
By killing Mansour, US killed Afghan peace process
By Rahimullah Yusufzai
May 23, 2016
Print : National



Yaqoob could be made new head to unite Taliban factions



PESHAWAR: By killing Taliban leader Mulla Akhtar Mohammad Mansour in a drone strike in Balochistan on Saturday, the US has killed the chances of any peace process in Afghanistan.

The Taliban rank and file and whoever is chosen as their new leader won’t be able to justify holding talks with the Afghan government, which is heavily dependent on the US military and economic assistance for its survival, in the changed situation. The new Taliban ameer would have to follow the policies of the late Taliban supreme leader Mulla Mohammad Omar and his successor, Mulla Akhtar Mohammad Mansour, both of whom were against recognizing the pro-US Afghan government and holding peace talks with it.

The US has been generally opposed to engaging in peace talks with the Taliban, whether Afghan or Pakistan. Though it backed the so-called Afghan-owned and Afghan-led peace process and verbally supported talks with the Taliban, its actions haven’t contributed to peacemaking in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The US was aggressively opposed to peace talks with the Pakistani Taliban as it believed this would mean an end to Pakistan military operations against them and free them up to shift to neighbouring Afghanistan to fight against the US-led Nato and Afghan forces. The drone strike by the US in South Waziristan that killed Pakistani Taliban commander Nek Mohammad in June 2004 destroyed the April 2004 peace agreement concluded by the Pakistan Army with the local militants in Shakai.

The US also torpedoed a few other peace initiatives including the one between the Pakistan government and the TTP commander Maulana Faqir Mohammad in Bajaur Agency and with TTP head Hakimullah Mehsud in Waziristan by undertaking drone attacks just in time to derail any prospects of peace through negotiations.

Mulla Mansour had chosen the path of war and one of its consequences could always have been violent death. That it happened due to a missile fired by a US drone in Balochistan’s Naushki district was surprising because there had never been any attack by the CIA-managed unmanned aircraft until now in this province.

The attack would bring to an end the relative safety that Afghan Taliban leaders and members enjoyed in Balochistan. The theatre of drone warfare in Pakistan has been extended to Balochistan from Fata, where an overwhelming majority of the attacks took place, and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, which experienced just one drone strike. This is a clear US message for Pakistan that it won’t hesitate to carry out drone strikes in Balochistan, or elsewhere if need be, if Islamabad didn’t take action against the irreconcilable Taliban figures refusing peace talks with the Afghan government.

With Mansour gone, Taliban would now have to embark upon another uncertain process of choosing their new head. The process last July was messy when acting chief Mansour was hurriedly made the leader to succeed Mulla Omar. A dissident group opposed his leadership and formed a breakaway faction with Mulla Mohammad Rasool as its head.

The search for a new head could cause divisions as it happened last summer, more so due to the realisation that the Taliban no longer have strong leaders such as Mulla Omar or even Mansour.

However, a more likely scenario could be the elevation of someone like Mulla Mohammad Yaqoob, the eldest son of late Mulla Omar, to the status of the new ameer to ensure a smooth transition and unite the fractious Taliban movement. Yaqoob is young and inexperienced, but he is non-controversial and reportedly acceptable to all factions. The Mulla Rasool faction has already hinted that it could rejoin the mainstream Taliban until now headed by Mansour in case Yaqoob is chosen as the new leader. If this happens, the Taliban would emerge as a more united and stronger militant group that would be difficult to tackle for the other stakeholders in Afghanistan.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/print/122017-By-killing-Mansour-US-killed-Afghan-peace-process

What peace process? Seems the Talis were offering rose petals just before he was killed, he was driving force the Burka Offensive and killing scores in the process. Ashraf Ghani was very genuine in his approach to peace but Talis chose war and they are paying for it.

The current thinking in Afghanistan is no more peace talks with people who kill our kids and civilians they will be dealt with militarily
 
Most wanted of USA found in pakistan. Bin laden
Most wanted of india is in pakistan : Hafeez saeed, dawood and some others.
Most wanted of afghanistan often found in pakistan : This fellow and other talibunny leaders.

hmmm ... what am i saying, it just might be a co-incidence.
 
You also live in Pakistan? You should be deported first.

Fvck Afghanistan. I said it again. Tell your people to leave our land and go to India.

I dont live in Pakistan.

All I can say is Peace Be With You.

I met Rahimullah Yousafzai not long ago.

I am afraid he is just another Talib apologist.
 
I dont live in Pakistan.

All I can say is Peace Be With You.



I am afraid he is just another Talib apologist.
Tell your people to leave as they tormented us enough by their presence,you people have no sense of loyalty you just make holes in the plate in which you eat(it is rather catchy in Urdu)
 
Tell your people to leave as they tormented us enough by their presence,you people have no sense of loyalty you just make holes in the plate in which you eat(it is rather catchy in Urdu)

I for one want the Afghans to return asap to Afghanistan asap to rebuild their country and we think the Pakistani people for hosting them.

Secondly I welcome you to watch this video where by General Zia is saying very clearly how the Afghan Jihad is saving Pakistan, so when you created a situation where you wanted Afghanistan to burn of course the Afghan refugees will come to Pakistan and thus you will need to live with the consequences of such polices.

In summary : I think the Pakistani public have been hospitable to Afghans in general but why Afghans have been flocked into your country is also some direct consequences of Pakistan polices vis-a-vis Afghanistan.
 
It seems like no one wants to leave Afghanistan without getting the boot. The brits, the soviets and now the yanks, everyone wants to hold on to it till given almighty kick.

From state department to pentagon, all have recently and very openly labeled Taliban as peace partners. And now this, without going to the validity of the news weather Mullah Mansoor is dead or alive. Seems like Americans got this habit of killing the negotiate partner right in the middle of negotiations. They did the same when Pakistani government was negotiating with Hakimullah Mashood.

Mullah Mansoor was perhaps the only one left among Taliban ranks who wanted to get the talks going, it was his initiative. Consider who is next inline, Siraj uddin Haqqani!! And knowing Taliban, they will hit back with vengeance.

Pakistan needs to secure its border ASAP. Mine the damn border if what it take, as Afghanistan is about to explode.
 

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