Burqa-clad German arrested from Bannu bordering Pakistan’s tribal area

[M8R]

This is why Federal GOP should have full control over all the territory of Pakistan otherwise people will exploit the weakness of Federal Government.Provincials Government are incompetent when it comes to National Security.

 

[sparklingway]

You can understand their logic to banning the burqa and legally this would not breach the human rights of muslims living in the EU, however a simple intrepretation of this article part 1 & 2 would not apply to the wearing of Hijabs.

The Italians arrested a woman wearing a burqa inside a shop after she was notified that it was not allowed to cover your face inside a shop yet she insisted. That law originates from the hey days of the Sicilian mafia but was toughened so as to prevent terrorists hiding their faces in balaclavas or any other thing. The woman could have left the shop. She clearly was annoyed by this and created trouble for himself.

Nonetheless, France has gone extreme with the Hijab bans. Hijabs shouldn't be any problem but the French have a history of aggressive secularism since the revolution. Intolerance breeds intolerance. Their attempts at creating a culturally unified society cannot work. You cannot forge a society, you can only breed one. Enforcing codes on head gear can never work.

Well Pakistanis cry excessively over France's proposed ban and the Swiss minaret ban, I find it amazing that the ban on Hijab in Tunisia has never been covered by our press.

 

[ejaz007]

really?

and what happened to your cousin afterwards?

They let him go when they ran out of CNG.

 

[ejaz007]

Burqa-clad German man held in Bannu

PESHAWAR: A German man wearing a burqa and carrying a pistol was arrested in Bannu on Monday after travelling from an area known as a hub for al Qaeda-linked militants, police said.

“A German man, wearing a burqa, was intercepted at a check-post in Bannu city while coming from Miranshah with a six-year-old girl,” local police station chief Farid Khan said.

Two tribesmen travelling with him in the vehicle were also detained, he added.

A pistol was also recovered from the man and he was handed over to an intelligence agency for further investigation, Khan said.

This incident comes at the heels of last week’s arrest of an armed American construction worker further north in the mountains of Chitral, who purportedly told police he was on a mission to kill al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden. afp

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[RescueRanger]

I find it amazing that the ban on Hijab in Tunisia has never been covered by our press.

Indeed... Not spicy enough for our media and press.

 

[araz]

No worries, their is no mix-up, countries contemplating a ban (like France and Belgium) are only talking about "full cover" variants like Niqap(?) and Burqa not Hijab, that is not in the policy discussion in a single European country.


Oh and once again, there is no such thing as "Islamophobia"(a phobia is an irrational fear of something), because it is not an unreasonable fear to be afraid and/or critical of literalistic Islamic ideology.. Look at Saudi-Arabia, Iran, Sudan, Somalia etc...
I'm not talking about terrorism necessarily here, but Sharia law, which is barbaric and medieval and on the rise not only in currently moderate Muslim countries.

Their might be "Muslimophobia" and it is wrong to blame a group so diverse as Muslims (who to a large extent are not literalistic..) collectively, but to be afraid of the ideological elements of Islam is not unreasonable, but on the contrary pretty sensible.


@H2O3C4Nitrogen: Yes that's German Tv, but the band is not from Germany, but Afghanistan I think.

Please refrain from bringing religion into it, especially if you dont have knowledge of it. The laws of Hadd(the so called barbaric Laws) if you should know were of Jewish origin. Since Christians and jews both follow Judiac commandments, and Islam has accepted tham as the law of the Lord, it is obligatory should you choose to follow your religion, for all people of the book to abide by them. The fact that people don't is another matter.
Araz

 

[mehru]

German militant had links with Al Qaeda

PESHAWAR, June 22: A suspected German militant captured in Bannu on Monday had links with Al Qaeda, security officials told Dawn on Tuesday.

Raimi, said to be in his mid-20s, and his local accomplice were wearing burqa when they were detained at a checkpost.

One official said the man had been shifted to Islamabad for questioning, adding that the Germany embassy had been informed.

He said that Raimi had crossed into Pakistan illegally through Iran and stayed with Al Qaeda elements in Mirali in North Waziristan.

“He has been involved in terrorist activities,” another official said.

German militants have formed their own group called the ‘German Taliban’ and work with Pakistani Taliban. A Jihadi website recently said that the leader of the German Taliban, a convert who called himself Abdul Ghaffar, had been killed in a recent shootout with Pakistani security forces at Esha checkpoint in North Waziristan.

AGENCIES ADD: The Pakistani Taliban said a German man detained by Pakistan security forces near North Waziristan on the Afghan border, was their ‘comrade’.

“He’s our comrade. He was going somewhere,” Muhammad Umer, head of the Taliban’s media centre, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

DAWN.COM | Front Page | German militant had links with Al Qaeda

Taliban claim a German arrested in Pakistan was their 'comrade' | World | Deutsche Welle | 22.06.2010

 

[niaz]

Who knows how many suicide bombers and terrorists run thru the security gauntlet wearing Burqa. Since we are in a state of war, there should be a total ban on Burqa in all Pakistan. Women are free to wear Hijab and cover all of the body with loose garments but face must be left open so that one can recognize who is the person really is.

For all those who cry out that it is against Islam. I strongly dispute it. In the Sura Ahzab it is not mentioned that face must also be covered and there is a Hadith by Hazrat Aysha (RA) that face can be left uncovered.

Most important point is that Islam does allow exceptions in case of special circumstances; for example I was personally advised by an Alazhar scholar that alcohol is permitted for medicinal purposes. Isn’t catching suicide bombers important enough to ban wearing of Burqa?

 

[Xeeshan]

While everyone has considered banning the burqa as only option left, I think there could be another more sensible way to deal with burqa clads... hire females in the security agencies and jama talashi of women be carried out by these female recruits.

Albeit we can talk about such bans on internet, the popular media would really have to be bodacious to carry out such discussion for the sake of developing public opinion.

Banning it, might turn out to be an act inviting furious outrage from public.

 

[RescueRanger]

While everyone has considered banning the burqa as only option left, I think there could be another more sensible way to deal with burqa clads... hire females in the security agencies and jama talashi of women be carried out by these female recruits.

Albeit we can talk about such bans on internet, the popular media would really have to be bodacious to carry out such discussion for the sake of developing public opinion.

Banning it, might turn out to be an act inviting furious outrage from public.

Already have female in police force and military. The problem is that due to cultural reasons you cannot place a woman and men on a picket in remote locations.

In urban areas you have plenty of female officers who are on active field duty and not just warming seats behind desks. In addition, if you consider the amount of place where the Burqa is worn (from areas of Sindh through to parts of NWFP) it will be very difficult to strategically place women on all check points to search women.

But banning the burqa will not be feasible at the current time, given our religious, cultural and traditional values.

 

[Xeeshan]

For the sake of good, we will have to take difficult steps.

Recruit more females and deploy them at remote places.

 

[Spring Onion]

Updates: They entered into Pakistan from Iran.

will keep updating. now in hurry


chao

 

[seekers]

Thousand of terrorist fled from Swat in Burqas with IDPs. This is history of terrorist they use to fled in burqas.

One Poet en light Burqas fleeing of lal masjid imam.

Shabeer say jo bhe barsaray pekar hua hai
aksar wohi burqay mein giriftar hua hai

pakra bhe gya mullah to ajab kya
farrar ke ulad hai farrar hua hai

had ho gai kay khud ko he abdul aziz kabhi hafiz kabhi shibli bana dya
Aey PAK FAUJ teri jisarat ko Salam aik raat mein qibla ko qibli bana dya.

 

[araz]

Who knows how many suicide bombers and terrorists run thru the security gauntlet wearing Burqa. Since we are in a state of war, there should be a total ban on Burqa in all Pakistan. Women are free to wear Hijab and cover all of the body with loose garments but face must be left open so that one can recognize who is the person really is.

For all those who cry out that it is against Islam. I strongly dispute it. In the Sura Ahzab it is not mentioned that face must also be covered and there is a Hadith by Hazrat Aysha (RA) that face can be left uncovered.

Most important point is that Islam does allow exceptions in case of special circumstances; for example I was personally advised by an Alazhar scholar that alcohol is permitted for medicinal purposes. Isn’t catching suicide bombers important enough to ban wearing of Burqa?

Niaz Saheb.
The way i have been made to understand by an imminent scholar, the matter is simple. The REQUIREMENTS of SATR are that all areas barring the face be covered. upto the wrists and to the ankles. It is a sign of piety that a lady to please her Lord(SWT) adapts the Niqab and Buurqa and then as a final sign to seek His (SWT) pleasure does not step out of the house.
While these are all enviable and we respect our sisters decisions in this regards, we are going through a crisis, where people's security and life is at risk. As such there is no reason to request the burqa to be removed. Howevr, this must be done in private so that the lady's dignity is maintainedand the examiner should be a female. Provided these requirements can be met, there should be absolutely no problems in identification. However, PA has resource restraints due to lack of Females in the Army and Police, and lack of education in the masses make things very difficult for them to do so.
Regarding Alcohol, for medicinal purposes, my understanding is the provided the % is less than 0.6%(?? if memory serves me right) it is allowed. However for life saving procedures where higher strength is required, there are no problems in using it.
regards
Araz

 

[Spring Onion]

Guys forget about the burqas any Non-local woman and local or non-local men trying to hide behind a burqa are caught immediately so thats not an issue.

we need to keep a check on foreigners in guise of journalists. everything is fishy even the French who were caught and the two women who came from India.