Burma is for Buddhists

[alaungphaya]

I was not talking about Marmas, they are migrant tribes and they speak Marma language not Chittagongian, I was talking about Chittagongians, the Bengalis in the Chittagong coastal area who speak the Chittagongian language.

LOL and when did I say that? You do know the meaning of the terms "race" and "ethnicity"? People from Europe to South Asia are part of the same race "Caucasian", but there are different ethnicities among them. Rohingyas could be same race as us but they are surely not the same ethnicity.

Now quote me only when you have anything reasonable to discuss, don't waste my time!

They are not Bengalis, Rohingyas are actually a hi-breed race, mixture of first generation Arab migrants, Bengali migrants during British era and local Muslim converts.

They never identify themselves as Bengalis, if you visit Saudi Arabia, there are many Rohingyas who managed to migrate there with fake Bangladeshi passports but when you talk to them they openly call themselves as Rohingyas.

They look pretty Bengali to me.

I asked you to differentiate between British, Germans and French, from their physical appearance.

I have sticked to my initial point.

I can differentiate a Burmese or an Arab from French, German etc. Your initial point is that they are a hi-breed(sic) race.

So after running out of argument you are now cherrypicking the technical terms? Yeah we are same race but different ethnicities. Or what do you suggest entire population of South Asia are Bengalis and all the mongoloids are Burmese?

You first claimed the were a hi-breed race (by the way, the word you want is hybrid) of Arabs and Burmese. Clearly they are not. They are your race. Now you want to talk about ethnicity. In which case their language and culture gives them away. They are the same as you. Just accept it.

If Muslims are so large in number in Chittagong why cant they be in rest of Arakan. As Chittagong and Arakan was same.
Maruk u dynasty of Arakan was influenced by Muslims and Illias shahi dynasty of Bengal ran vessal state Arakan. Many Hindus and Buddhists also converted to Islam.
There is a good article on this in rohingya org if you search by muslim rulers of Arakan.

rohingya org/portal/index.php/scholars/65-nurul-islam-uk/293-muslim-influence-in-the-kingdom-of-arakan.html

Influenced, not ruled. It it was not a full vassal. Arakan has traditionally been Burma's vassal. Again, revisionism. I remember there was another guy who claimed Arakan was under Muslim rule but the historical accounts don't state it so as to not upset the Buddhists. Yes, that's the level of intellect you are reaching.

Now your argument is that Chittagong is full of muslims (who'll I'll assume you consider Bengalis), then the rest of Arakan should be too (and I assume if they do control Arakan, they will be considered Bengalis by you). You people make me sick.

And you are an idiot if you read anything like that from islamist websites. No wonder you have such a warped view.

 

[extra terrestrial]

^Glad that you have compiled all the posts, now read out them, I have always said Rohingyas could be the same race as us but not the same ethnicity, if you are confused about what constitutes a "race" or "ethnicity", google them.

Oh yes, you have also deliberately missed out a key post:

Okay let's review, here is what said,

Of course they are hi-breed, call it race or ethnicity or whatever you want.

There are historical proves about Muslim settlements in the Arakans dating back to 10th century, now is there any other Muslims in the Rakhine State other than the Rohingyas?

There are indeed many Burmese converts among the Rohingyas. I have seen many Rohungyas having traditional Burmese surnames like Maung.

Source: Burma is for Buddhists | Page 10

The argument is not about whether they are racially different or ethnically different, but just on whether they are different or not and I have already raised my points.

You have proved they share the same language and culture, where? They indeed have Bengali cultural influence that doesn't make them Bengalis. Now I have also said that Chittagongian dialect has large Burmese influence, does it make the Chittagongians as Burmese? Kachins have big similarities with the Hans of Yunnan, will it imply that Kachins are actually Hans?

As I said, if you don't have anything to argue just back off rather than making a fool out of yourself. I'm sure there are many sensible Burmese forumers here who could discuss it better for your country.

 

[bongbang]

Influenced, not ruled. It it was not a full vassal. Arakan has traditionally been Burma's vassal. Again, revisionism. I remember there was another guy who claimed Arakan was under Muslim rule but the historical accounts don't state it so as to not upset the Buddhists. Yes, that's the level of intellect you are reaching.

Now your argument is that Chittagong is full of muslims (who'll I'll assume you consider Bengalis), then the rest of Arakan should be too (and I assume if they do control Arakan, they will be considered Bengalis by you). You people make me sick.

And you are an idiot if you read anything like that from islamist websites. No wonder you have such a warped view.

You are soon to be a minority Thats why you are worried. Rohingyas are there to stay. Rohingya won elections till 1990 in north Arakan. Bengali Muslim is a misconception. Bangladesh is made up of many ethnicity. Someone is eager to impose Bengali on us. Bengal is our past. We are all Bangladeshi now
Rohingyas are your people.

 

[alaungphaya]

^Glad that you have compiled all the posts, now read out them, I have always said Rohingyas could be the same race as us but not the same ethnicity, if you are confused about what constitutes a "race" or "ethnicity", google them.

Oh yes, you have also deliberately missed out a key post:

This is probably the closest I will get to conceding from a bengali so I will accept it. You're welcome. Now next time try not to defeat your own point.

You are soon to be a minority Thats why you are worried. Rohingyas are there to stay. Rohingya won elections till 1990 in north Arakan. Bengali Muslim is a misconception. Bangladesh is made up of many ethnicity. Someone is eager to impose Bengali on us. Bengal is our past. We are all Bangladeshi now
Rohingyas are your people.

Yep, this is what it all comes down to. You want a Bengali Arakan. Well, it's not going to happen so you better build some more homes for your brothers who want to go back to their mother land and figure out some job opportunities for them.

 

[extra terrestrial]

This is probably the closest I will get to conceding from a bengali so I will accept it. You're welcome. Now next time try not to defeat your own point.

What's fuss here? As I said, people from Europe to South Asia are part of the same race called "Caucasians" and so are the Rohingyas. However, they are of different ethnicity than Bengalis.

Also, as I said about their origins, Rohingyas are made up of various groups like the Arab and other Muslim migrants in Arakan during the Middle Ages, Bengali migrants during the British era as well as local Burmese converts. There should be no confusion.

 

[alaungphaya]

What's fuss here? As I said, people from Europe to South Asia are part of the same race called "Caucasians" and so are the Rohingyas. However, they are of different ethnicity than Bengalis.

Also, as I said about their origins, Rohingyas are made up of various groups like the Arab and other Muslim migrants in Arakan during the Middle Ages, Bengali migrants during the British era as well as local Burmese converts. There should be no confusion.

I am not confused. Rohingyas are Bangladeshis. It's quite simple.

 

[extra terrestrial]

I am not confused. Rohingyas are Bangladeshis. It's quite simple.

You are definitely confused... no problem, it would take time to get it right!!!

 

[bongbang]

I am not confused. Rohingyas are Bangladeshis. It's quite simple.

Yes you are right rohingyas are greater Bangladeshi.

 

[alaungphaya]

You are definitely confused... no problem, it would take time to get it right!!!

Here you go.

Yes you are right rohingyas are greater Bangladeshi.

 

[bongbang]

Here you go.

Yes even Assam and west bengal is part of greater Bangladesh.

 

[alaungphaya]

Yes even Assam and west bengal is part of greater Bangladesh.

Yep. If they're poor and hungry and need help, they are foreigners. If they are a bridgehead into another country, apni! apni! bhai! bhai! bong! bong!

Disgusting.

 

[bongbang]

Future Bangladesh. We will keep Rakhaines dont worry.

Yep. If they're poor and hungry and need help, they are foreigners. If they are a bridgehead into another country, apni! apni! bhai! bhai! bong! bong!

Disgusting.

Our brothers just have to tolerate present oppression. We will support with international media.

 

[alaungphaya]

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Future Bangladesh. We will keep Rakhaines dont worry.

Our brothers just have to tolerate present oppression. We will support with international media.

You have to take something first before you can keep it, fella.

Good geography work BTW.

 

[bongbang]

Good geography work BTW.

We will need some buffer regions too when Arakan is taken over

 

[waz]

The post was originally about Christians.