Burhan Wani death: 'Azaadi' slogans for Kashmir and Manipur raised in Kolkata

[ayesha.a]

Every constitution does but does the same Indian Constitution gives open hand to Indian Armed Forces to take deadly measures against Children too?

I have deliberately refrained from posting most disturbing images but an informed person like U does know about them all.

The injuries and deaths are awful, especially of children. But is it really the fault of the armed forces? Should children be part of these (violent) protests, in the first place?

Look at it neutrally, and tell me if the armed forces could have done any better - was it possible to use any less force? You might believe that the Indian army is an occupying force there - but regardless of that, could they have defended themselves against these attackers in any better manner? If the Pakistan army was in a similar situation, would they not have used as much or more force?

Regardless of your views about Kashmir and India, laying the blame for these injuries on the Indian forces is really missing the point. I'm not sure what you expect them to do differently.

 

[Spectre]

This is what is wrong with this world...terrorism apologism....congratulations to India for making worm food in hell out of this looser !

My advice...put these "protestors" in working prisons....traitorous leeches deserve nothing less.

Ideally yes, but we don't want to. Despite all Pakistanis say here -We are quite indulgent towards our Kashmiris brothers and sisters.

Some traitorous folks who have real malice and ill will towards India like this dead Burhan guy are routinely weeded out but majority of Kashmiris are pro-India. Infact when Pakistanis special forces landed in India thinking they will get a warm receptions from Kashmiris, locals informed on them to Indian Army and helped us round them up and put them down. Even Kargil Infiltration came to light in part due to reports of a local shepherds.

Sometimes people get emotional and we allow them to vent them their frustrations and mourn but if they resort to violence then all they get is pain and in extreme circumstances a 5.56 mm hole in their body.

 

[shah1398]

The injuries and deaths are awful, especially of children. But is it really the fault of the armed forces? Should children be part of these (violent) protests, in the first place?

Thank U for appreciating the fact that Children should not be targeted in any case. But like I said earlier that I had posted the pic number two for the same reasons as I knew I wud be asked if Children should be part of any protests. In the same very pic U can see a cop at extreme right is being stopped by a cop near him from hitting the kid in front of him. This pic is telling many untold stories and I have some graphic contents which show how Children have been killed in IOK in as brutal ways as burning them alive but ofcousre neither can I post those here, nor am I some kind of politician who wud do politics on such issues.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Indians are getting cocky after killing teenagers. Indian forces need to be met with full force. Perhaps a few heads rolling across the LOC will calm their war mongering and barbarity.

 

[ayesha.a]

Thank U for appreciating the fact that Children should not be targeted in any case. But like I said earlier that I had posted the pic number two for the same reasons as I knew I wud be asked if Children should be part of any protests. In the same very pic U can see a cop at extreme right is being stopped by a cop near him from hitting the kid in front of him. This pic is telling many untold stories and I have some graphic contents which show how Children have been killed in IOK in as brutal ways as burning them alive but ofcousre neither can I post those here, nor am I some kind of politician who wud do politics on such issues.

As I asked earlier, how do you expect the police to behave? Wouldn't children (teenager, in that pic) who throw rocks at the police be expected to receive at least a lathi blow? A rock thrown at a policeman will injure him, whether thrown by adults or children. And when the crowds comprise of adults and children together, both adults and children will get injured. What I don't understand is how anybody expects anything less. I don't think the police deliberately targets children.

Teargas, rubber bullets, water cannons - these are the standard tools used to disperse violent protests everywhere in the world, including India. In some countries, it would be machine guns. (In Libya, even anti aircraft guns were used.) In any protest in India that turns violent, this is the standard response. By the way, violent protests happen across the country, for whatever reasons - and this is the police response. But in those cases, nobody spins it as brutal oppression etc etc.

If the army had driven an IFV or tank and gunned down all the rock pelters, that would be excessive force. But without at least lathis and tear gas and rubber bullets, how do you expect the police to do their jobs?

Also, I find your claim of children being burnt alive to be very implausible. Wherever it is that you read that, please double check the veracity.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

As I asked earlier, how do you expect the police to behave? Wouldn't children (teenager, in that pic) who throw rocks at the police be expected to receive at least a lathi blow? A rock thrown at a policeman will injure him, whether thrown by adults or children. And when the crowds comprise of adults and children together, both adults and children will get injured. What I don't understand is how anybody expects anything less. I don't think the police deliberately targets children.

Teargas, rubber bullets, water cannons - these are the standard tools used to disperse violent protests everywhere in the world, including India. In some countries, it would be machine guns. (In Libya, even anti aircraft guns were used.) In any protest in India that turns violent, this is the standard response. By the way, violent protests happen across the country, for whatever reasons - and this is the police response. But in those cases, nobody spins it as brutal oppression etc etc.

If the army had driven an IFV or tank and gunned down all the rock pelters, that would be excessive force. But without at least lathis and tear gas and rubber bullets, how do you expect the police to do their jobs?

Also, I find your claim of children being burnt alive to be very implausible. Wherever it is that you read that, please double check the veracity.

The point is that you are dark skinned invaders from the South encroaching on their lands. You do not belong there. Please keep your mischief revolving around Guttar Pradesh.

 

[ayesha.a]

The point is that you are dark skinned invaders from the South encroaching on their lands. You do not belong there.

You prefer white skinned invaders, I suppose?

Anyway, I have no appetite for this level of discourse. I'll leave that for people like you.

 

[Albatross]

1) Well yes, there is religious bigotry in India. Nowhere close to the amount in certain other countries, but it is there. But as a nation, everybody is equal in the eyes of the law.

2) Jats weren't asking for sedition from India. Nor were they supporting armed insurgents. Nor have they ever taken up arms against the nation. There is a big difference. BTW, muslims can and do protest in other regions of India - they don't face live bullets either.

Even in the recent protest in Kashmir, do you see the army firing at protestors? If that happened, how many people would be dead? If one armyman with an automatic rifle opened fire, how many people would die? The security forces there are exercising the maximum possible restraint under the circumstances.

3) I'm no fan of Modi, but the rest of the world does NOT consider him a terrorist. No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't become true. All countries, from USA to Saudi Arabia to Iran have welcomed him with open arms. (That's more a welcome for the nation, not the man.) There is enough legitimate criticism that can be directed at him for the handling of the riots in 2002. But your over the top rhetoric ain't that.

BTW, Saudi Arabia recently gave him their highest civilian award. As I said, I'm no fan of his, but you have to stop making these strawmen figures to attack; it serves no purpose. When you say things like the entire world consider him a terrorist, it is an immediately disprovable claim.



And you were complaining about religious bigotry in India?

Religious bigotry in India is the highest in the world as Muslims dont get killed anywhere else in world for eating beef but only in incredible India and its not that they started it now they were doing so for centuries but its only now that leaders like Modi are making things difficult for Muslims. These people have a grudge against muslims for ruling them for over thousand years right in their homeland where they were living for thousands of years and now they are taking revenge against innocent muslims be it Bombay riots or Kashmiris.

Kashmiries are asking for Azadi because they hate Hindus and their army who is killing them indiscriminately plus as per partition rules being a Muslim majority area it was supposed to be part of Pakistan and is kept by India by force only.

Modi was banned for years and is welcomed only when unfortunately he became PM.

Mean imagine drinking excretion of an animal? Its inhuamne because when you eat and drink such things you become inhuaman yourself and do things what IA does in Kashmir.

When you drink animal excretions you become animals yourself as only animals can do all this and there are thousands of such videos .

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153751133418603

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154002067457663

Who ransacked the hospital here nobody was doing anti india thing here?

This girl I am sure she was the biggest threat to Hindu forces in Kashmir. This one girl will lead to another thousand kashmir boys picking up weapons against tyrants and oppressors . History is a witness no power no matter how big she was able to keep a territory under her against the wishes of locals and India wont be any exception its just a matter of time before this time bomb explodes and then it wont be Kashmir only khalistan , mizoram and many other area will join that freedom spree from Sickular india.

How you expect these kids to love Incredible India?

And this is what a man with clean heart is who took care of you guys while sitting in your country in a hall full of your kind. Thats a soldier who fights for justice .

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1673943796264013

 

[lastofthepatriots]

You prefer white skinned invaders, I suppose?

Anyway, I have no appetite for this level of discourse. I'll leave that for people like you.

Skin color has less to do with the fact that you bhartis don't belong in Kashmir whatsoever.

Bhartis forcing their way on Kashmiris and their lands is akin to how they raped that poor girl on the city metro bus in Dehli. They are clearly telling you to get away, and that they want nothing to do with you. You bhartis are responding as typical rapists and forcing your will on them, which is a terrible personality trait to have. They told you to get lost, but you guys cannot stop. Take a hint. No means NO.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Kashmiris are not bombing other places in India. They haven't made their way into Delhi, Mumbai, Kerala or where ever to cause terror there. They're simply restricting their boundaries to their HOMES and defending it. If this isn't freedom fighting then I don't know what is. Isn't this the same as the LTTEs behaviour which the Indians once supported? Yet they label that as freedom fighters. Hypocrisy. Disgusting.

 

[Albatross]

@ayesha.a

If you dont like this beautiful green flag its your problem but Kashmiries love this and your decades of terror has only increased their love manifolds.

See the respect this Hero got I dont think ever any general or leader in your India got such a great burial. Hundred of thousands attended his funeral and people were dying to touch him such reverence and love is something which Hindus and their animal mentality can never understand.

Its the respect one gets after his death that determines what kind of life he lived.
I am dead sure Modi wont get half of these numbers in his funeral if there will be one ....

 

[ayesha.a]

Religious bigotry in India is the highest in the world as Muslims dont get killed anywhere else in world for eating beef but only in incredible India

Exactly one Muslim was killed, and another one injured. Shouldn't have happened, but that doesn't justify your generalization. And that incident was widely condemned, and will be talked about for years. How many Muslims (and others) are killed in Paksitan for their faith? How many bombings in how many mosques and churches? How many Shias have been killed? But none of that matters to you, all that is easily forgotten. But one criminal act in India will always be etched in memory.

That shows that Indians (and even Pakistanis) hold India to a much higher standard than Pakistan. One murder in India will remain in memory, because India expects better. But thousands killed in Pakistan for their religion, nobody remembers, because it is accepted. Your first sentence is plain wrong, and you yourself are demonstrating it, by holding India to a much higher standard than you hold your country.

About the rest of your post, I cannot comment on info and pics patched together quickly. That will take a lifetime. If there is a specific point you want to make, I could try to address it. Pics of brutality can be found aplenty on the internet, from Pakistan as well.

@ayesha.a

See the respect this Hero got I dont think ever any general or leader in your India got such a great burial. Hundred of thousands attended his funeral and people were dying to touch him such reverence and love is something which Hindus and their animal mentality can never understand.

Its the respect one gets after his death that determines what kind of life he lived.
I am dead sure Modi wont get half of these numbers in his funeral if there will be one ....

This part, I don't dispute. Yes, he is regarded as a hero by many Kashmiris. I haven't said otherwise. I was only disputing your claim that Hindus have freedoms that Muslims do not.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Exactly one Muslim was killed, and another one injured. Shouldn't have happened, but that doesn't justify your generalization. And that incident was widely condemned, and will be talked about for years. How many Muslims (and others) are killed in Paksitan for their faith? How many bombings in how many mosques and churches? How many Shias have been killed? But none of that matters to you, all that is easily forgotten. But one criminal act in India will always be etched in memory.

That shows that Indians (and even Pakistanis) hold India to a much higher standard than Pakistan. One murder in India will remain in memory, because India expects better. But thousands killed in Pakistan for their religion, nobody remembers, because it is accepted. Your first sentence is plain wrong, and you yourself are demonstrating it, by holding India to a much higher standard than you hold your country.

About the rest of your post, I cannot comment on info and pics patched together quickly. That will take a lifetime. If there is a specific point you want to make, I could try to address it. Pics of brutality can be found aplenty on the internet, from Pakistan as well.



This part, I don't dispute. Yes, he is regarded as a hero by many Kashmiris. I haven't said otherwise. I was only disputing your claim that Hindus have freedoms that Muslims do not.

One killing in India? LMAO


Who are you trying to lie to? This isn't your bharat ratshit forum.


How many were killed in Gujrat Massacres? Notice the word 'Massacres'.

We all know you are not Muslim, so stop pretending you saffroni Indian. I could ask you questions on Islam right here that you wouldn't be able to google. So don't even bother.

 

[Albatross]

Exactly one Muslim was killed, and another one injured. Shouldn't have happened, but that doesn't justify your generalization. And that incident was widely condemned, and will be talked about for years. How many Muslims (and others) are killed in Paksitan for their faith? How many bombings in how many mosques and churches? How many Shias have been killed? But none of that matters to you, all that is easily forgotten. But one criminal act in India will always be etched in memory.

That shows that Indians (and even Pakistanis) hold India to a much higher standard than Pakistan. One murder in India will remain in memory, because India expects better. But thousands killed in Pakistan for their religion, nobody remembers, because it is accepted. Your first sentence is plain wrong, and you yourself are demonstrating it, by holding India to a much higher standard than you hold your country.

About the rest of your post, I cannot comment on info and pics patched together quickly. That will take a lifetime. If there is a specific point you want to make, I could try to address it. Pics of brutality can be found aplenty on the internet, from Pakistan as well.



This part, I don't dispute. Yes, he is regarded as a hero by many Kashmiris. I haven't said otherwise. I was only disputing your claim that Hindus have freedoms that Muslims do not.

We discuss different topics in different threads so about Pakistan killings and bombings we discussed in relevant threads at lengths and if there is something that you think should be highlighted feel free to open a thread for some constructive discussion.

As this one is about India and her aggression against innocents in Kashmir I am focused on Kashmir and the Great Burhan wani's Shahadat.

Just to correct you despite curfew thousands attended his funeral has there been no blockages by IA the number would have swelled into hundred of thousands so not some kashmiries ALL mean 99% kashmiries loved their Hero and he will remain alive in their hearts for times to come and when Kashmir will be independent he will in the list of those Heros on whom movies will be made and whole world will watch their bravado .

One killing in India? LMAO


Who are you trying to lie to? This isn't your bharat ratshit forum.


How many were killed in Gujrat Massacres? Notice the word 'Massacres'.

We all know you are not Muslim, so stop pretending you saffroni Indian. I could ask you questions on Islam right here that you wouldn't be able to google. So don't even bother.

We all know who she/he might be but lets play the game as per rules as we all know in the end its always truth that wins and all propaganda, cruelty,tyranny and crookedness goes silent and defeated.

All those in this forum and in India who are calling Great Burhan Wani a terrorist would not even get remembered the next day after their death bt this Hero will be remembered as long as Kashmir valley is on the map of this world.

So just chill and play the game they will slowly get out of their masks themselves showing their ugly faces to the world.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

@ayesha.a @Razia Sultana

You being the resident Muslim Indians here, please translate the caption.

Don't give us the lame excuse that you can only read Sanskrit, because that would mean you cannot even read the Quran.