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Brother Russia has more goodies for India: developing Brahmos and Fifth generation jet

What are Russian main strategic interests in selling weapons, defence equipment to India ? or is more business ?

Russia is worried about its Far East because of Chinese dominance, Russia acts as a counter weight for India to keep the balance in Asia.

One of the reason why India joined SCO.
 
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And you will do what exactly with that "technology"?


Obviously, India can't produce its own weapons so they get them from the Russians.

When you see outside world through windows built on hatred and contempt, nothing is of any matter.

But if someone farts in GHQ, it would obviously be delicious to your ears and nose.
 
:cheesy::omghaha: Nice said

I have been thinking since last two days . when modi said pak is mother of terrorists ' then who is father US or Saudi ? But u give me right answer

In

Russian can u please ..


lol bro open in chrome and translate i too read in same way :)

lol bro open in chrome and translate i too read in same way :)

An agreement on the transfer of India to rent a second Russian nuclear submarine of project 971

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October 18th, 1:20

The newspaper "Vedomosti" October 17, 2016 published an article by Alexei Nikolsky "India to buy Russian" , which reported that several major bilateral agreements in the sphere of military-technical cooperation were signed on the basis of past Saturday talks Russian President Vladimir Putin with the prime minister of India Narendra Modi . The meeting took place in the margins of the past in the Indian state of Goa BRICS summit.

The nuclear multipurpose submarines of the Russian Navy K-295 "Samara" K-391 "Bratsk" Project 971 waiting for repairs at the head office of JSC "RDC" Zvezdochka "in Severodvinsk, in June 2016 (a) Userg / forums.airbase.ru



In particular, the sides signed an intergovernmental agreement, which paves the way for the conclusion of a contract for the supply of India's four battalions of antiaircraft missile systems of long-range S-400. Until now, this powerful system has been exported only to China - in 2014 a contract was signed for the supply of four divisions worth about $ 2 billion According to the editor-in-Moscow Defense Brief Mikhail Barabanov, formerly India actually ordered Israeli companies to develop anti-missile system large. range Barak 8 and a decision in favor of the Russian system could mean that Indians are not completely satisfied with the performance of Israeli products.

in addition, Moscow and Delhi six frigates of this type signed an intergovernmental agreement for the sale of India's four frigates of project 11356 Earlier, India were delivered, and in 2011 of six frigates commissioned in the Kaliningrad shipyard "Yantar" for the Black Sea fleet of the Russian Defense Ministry.Three frigates were built, but still have three, construction of which began, there were problems with the completion of the crisis in Ukraine - Ukrainian enterprise "Zorya-Mashproekt" refused to supply already paid for gas turbine propulsion systems for these ships. Eventually it was decided that for India, these settings will be set, with one ship will be completed in Russia, and the housing of other transported for completion in India (where it will be laid and the fourth frigate), the person said, close to the leadership of "Rosoboronexport". This scheme among other things is responsible concept of Make in India, aimed at enhancing the role of the Indian industry and is the official policy of the Government of Prime Minister Modi.

But the real triumph of the concept of Make in India has become a three-way inter-company agreement to establish a joint venture for assembly in India of light Ka-226T, signed "Rosoboronexport", "Helicopters of Russia" and the Indian state-owned HAL. These helicopters for the needs of the Indian security forces will be assembled in India with the best possible localization of production, and the total number of cars produced could reach several hundred. According to the Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade, it is planned that the first 60 helicopters will be delivered from Russia and 140 -. Produced at this new plant

According to the person in the Russian defense industry in Goa has been signed and the long-debated agreement on the transfer of India in leasing multipurpose nuclear submarine of project 971 from the Russian Navy, which it will pass repair and modernization. In 2007, India had already been transferred to the lease for $ 900 million unfinished nuclear submarine of this type of "Seal", received in the Indian Navy Chakra named in honor of the Soviet atomic project 670 boats, which the Soviet Union has been leased to India in 1988-1990.

According to expert Center for analysis of strategies and technologies, Konstantin Makiyenko, even the signing of such agreements, which are not contracts, paves the way for implementation of the projects, the total cost of which is clearly in excess of $ 6 billion.

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What are Russian main strategic interests in selling weapons, defence equipment to India ? or is more business ?
Do you ppl deliberately miss the fact that roseneft bought stake in essar oil and India has also invested in russian oil fields.

https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/ar...t-essar-deal-a-tactical-coup-not-a-revolution



On this day in 1973, OPEC's Arab members launched an embargo against the U.S. and other Israeli allies, kicking off a transformation in the global oil market. The aftershock can still be felt more than 40 years later in this weekend's $12.9 billion deal involving Russia's Rosneft, commodity marketer Trafigura and a large Indian refining and marketing business owned by Essar Group.

In that context, Rosneft's Indian coup may well be a tactical victory, but not one that solves a wider strategic problem.

The 1973 embargo was the first real display of OPEC's power, epitomizing a big underlying shift in the oil market. Up until the 1970s, there was no oil market as such. The traditional majors -- Exxon, Royal Dutch Shell, British Petroleum, Chevron and a few others -- controlled virtually all oil production and the majority of refining capacity outside of the U.S. and communist countries. That closed, vertically integrated system was broken up as governments of large oil-producing countries first demanded the power to negotiate prices and then nationalized oilfields outright.

Years Since the OPEC Oil Embargo

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Among many other things -- notably massive demand destruction and new supply from non-OPEC regions -- the ensuing tumult helped spur the creation of a true market in oil. Nymex launched a futures contract for West Texas Intermediate crude in 1983, enabling producers to hedge their cash flows and speculators, such as commodity-trading firms, to take bets on future prices. In attempting to control oil prices, OPEC spurred the creation of tools undermining this very objective.

Fast forward to 2016, and the effects are still being felt. This generation's oil shock, roughly from 2004 to 2014, also spurred big shifts, most notably the shale boom in the U.S. As I wrote here, E&P firms have been helped enormously by those same energy futures markets, and U.S. capital markets, enabling them to drill far beyond what their own cash flow could have supported. Meanwhile, the shock also spurred efforts to wean consumers off oil and provided more ammunition for environmentalists.

The result is a new equation for global oil: More supply plus fear of future demand shocks equals fierce competition for markets.

Which brings us to Rosneft's deal. The Russian major reportedly beat off competing interest from Saudi Arabia and Iran. India's attractions are obvious:

Indian Hummer
India even beats China when it comes to projected growth in oil demand between 2015 and 2017


Source: International Energy Agency
Being obvious, though, India's attractions haven't been lost on the world's oil producers, especially in this newly competitive environment. Before 2008, BP didn't even bother to break out India as a separate destination for oil exports in the company's annual statistical roundup. Since then, foreign oil flows to India have jumped by almost half -- and the composition has shifted dramatically:

A Passage to India (or Two, or Three...)
The Middle East's share of oil flows to India has dropped from 72 percent in 2008 to 59 percent in 2015 as the Americas and Africa have made inroads. Barrels from the former Soviet Union barely register

Source: BP Statistical Review of World Energy
The same dynamic has played out in that other behemoth, China, where rising production from the Americas has led to fierce competition between producers in the Middle East, Africa and the former Soviet Union:

The Battle for China
The market share of barrels flowing from the former Soviet Union to China has actually fallen since 2012, from more than 17 percent to less than 13 percent

Source: BP Statistical Review of World Energy
So Rosneft's deal is a tactical victory in several respects. It demonstrates that, even as Ukraine-related sanctions block Rosneft on some fronts, it isn't boxed in entirely. This fits with other moves by Russia and Rosneft to deepen ties with Indian oil companies, which offer an alternative to Western capital.

Rosneft also obviously gains a strong foothold in a growing market and a refining asset that can also export products such as gasoline and diesel to other markets as the opportunity arises. Just as importantly, Rosneft's ownership of the Essar assets will close them off to rivals such as Saudi Arabia.

This form of vertical integration is also a response to the strategic challenges presented by a more competitive market for oil, though. Rosneft isn't the only one doing it. Saudi Aramco, for example, wants to expand its storage capacity in China and Japan to strengthen its position in two key Asian markets. Aramco is also reportedly the leading bidder for Lyondell Basell's Houston refinery.

Yet even if Rosneft -- or Aramco or anyone else -- gains some short-term advantage by piecing together exclusive supply chains, the knock-on effect over time will be for other refiners to bid down the price of barrels from other producers who now have fewer channels to market.

Energy economist Phil Verleger points out that some producers could be more vulnerable than others; for example, heavy oil coming from such places as Canada or Venezuela can only be processed by sophisticated refineries, so those countries could face a squeeze. Overall, though, it doesn't solve the problem of more competitive upstream oil supply. Indeed, on that front, the battle for Essar stands in marked contrast to recent talk of cooperation between Russia and OPEC on supply cuts.

Ultimately, the need to buy market access and optionality in this way mirrors what has happened over time with other commodity markets, from grain to metals. As innovations in information technology and financial markets have made it harder and harder to maintain an edge in trading raw materials, some large commodity marketers such as Glencore, Louis Dreyfus and, indeed, Trafigura have invested more in physical infrastructure such as mines, ports and refineries to keep it.

Oil, now apparently bereft of the stabilizing influence of OPEC or those all-powerful majors that preceded it, has become just as competitive. Rosneft has secured the support of traders in pulling off its Indian coup. But their critical role in the deal itself signals the world that got blown up in the 1970s can't be put back together again.
 
Indian members don't reply to douches and ruin the thread! Report them and move on. There is hardly any good thread left on PDF.:(
Sorry boss but we don't want to hurt good visiter .. Only rply when some guy said some bad words. Like Russia is father not brother ..what it means? And what should be rply ? So not to blem only indians . what u give, u will get
 
What are Russian main strategic interests in selling weapons, defence equipment to India ? or is more business ?
It always been quid-pro-quo. Main strategic interest would be to not let India gravitate too much towards US. Historically, we have always bought Russian tech en-masse. So, good business sense also.
 
Sorry boss but we don't want to hurt good visiter .. Only rply when some guy said some bad words. Like Russia is father not brother ..what it means? And what should be rply ? So not to blem only indians . what u give, u will get
Let them be butthurt man! I am not blaming you.
 
friendship b.w russia and india is higher than mountains and deeper than oceans !!
 
What i understand that india rely on its supersonic missile than indiginous fighter jet?

friendship b.w russia and india is higher than mountains and deeper than oceans !!
U saying its ashes "khak". :hitwall:
 
It is interesting to see how rumors surface that Russia is selling weapons to Pakistan and next thing you see India has signed one more deal with Russia, unlike France who had to wait 11 years to sign the partial Rafale deal. Good job Russia for fooling Pakistan and getting Indian Money quickly.
 
India - blue water navy on rent

So by your logic, Pakistan armed forces is a Military on Soft Loan?

And you will do what exactly with that "technology"?


Obviously, India can't produce its own weapons so they get them from the Russians.

No, it is not the same reason why you get weapons from China on loan. We buy weapons for its technology and offsets as our industry is well equpped to absorb the technology, pakistan on the other hand cannot even absorb technology for a 50cc moped and above all does not have cash to buy and instead has to settle for the mercy of China.
 
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