British woman’s blog fuels India’s ‘unsafe’ infamy

[Bitter Melon]

What are you talking of women prime ministers ? Like who ? Indira. Ghandi, who would she be if not for her father. Benazir Bhutto? Again daughter of VIP alpha male, Bangladesh begums ? One is a daughter and one a wife. jayalalitha ? Mistress. Sonia Ghandi ? Wife/daughter in law.

The number of women who made it on their own steam can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

Having a women PM did nothing for Indian women. What will change the fate of. Indian women is economic independence , nothing else. How many. Working women do you know who do a full days work at home and then slip into a housecoat at home to start rolling out the chapattis while men watch TV. Why is it when a man needs a kidney his wife always has her herself tested? Doctors don't even bother asking the indian husband because he knows the answer will be NO.

So, why is Hillary Clinton in the fray now? Due to her own merit or because she is a Clinton? What about Argentinian president Kirchener?

How about Mayawati? Godfathers? Mamata Banerjee? Godfathers again? Shiela Dixit?

What about Sucheta Kriplani the first woman chief minister in India of a backward state called Uttar Pradesh?

Sucheta Kriplani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How about this?

Two Million Women Leaders and Counting | International Museum of Women

A million elected women in India's local governments!

Women opt for donating a kidney to their husband as do husbands for their wives. It is a natural course for a union tied in love. People who consider marriage to be a contract will not understand that.

Majority of the financies in India are handled by the women of India, so much for your talk of economic independence. From what furniture should be purchased at home to what food anyone is going to eat is decided by the woman of the household. Majority Indian men are carelessly shabbily dressed because they barely spend money on their own upkeep, but every single women and children are decked out in their best. Why? Economic oppression?

 

[jamahir]

Women opt for donating a kidney to their husband as do husbands for their wives. It is a natural course for a union tied in love.

nonsense... i had posted a article which said that wives are pressurized by in-laws to "donate" kidney to husbands... why can't his mother or father do that??

People who consider marriage to be a contract will not understand that.

marriage is better a contract, built upon legally-bound obligation of mutual respect... no respect, break marriage.

 

[Ocelot]

Ya true..i think this problem is there In all the countries like India,Pakistan where there is no proper sex outlet for people until they reach their thirties...I once read Pakistanis are on the top of the list of search of **** and animal sex in Google search.

This has been debunked on Dawn by a person name Saad Durrani (I can't post a link due to insufficient posts).

 

[nForce]

and why do you wish that??

why not have the indian airforce bomb rss offices and practice grounds and the offices of ram sena??

Don't quote me out of context please.
When it comes to Naxal movement in particular, my take on the matter is not exactly simplistic.

 

[jamahir]

Don't quote me out of context please.
When it comes to Naxal movement in particular, my take on the matter is not exactly simplistic.

please explain.

 

[Sky lord]

Stats. Literature.

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1 In 3 Women Has Been Sexually Harassed At Work, According To Survey

Sexual Harrassment - Fact Sheet - Feminist Majority Foundation

Equity in education is compromised and jeopardized by the existence of sexual harassment in educational institutions. In the 1993 American Association of University Women (AAUW) study "Hostile Hallways", 85% of all girls and 76% of boys reported having been sexually harassed at school. But, says Anne Bryant, former director of AAUW, "The impact on girls is far more devastating". Many more girls than boys said that, as a result of the harassment, they were afraid in school or less confident about themselves.

Statistics-
Stop Street Harassment

Street harassment is an under-researched topic, but it’s clear from the few studies that exist that it is a significant and prevalent problem.

In 2014, SSH commissioned a 2,000-person national survey in the USA with surveying firm GfK. The survey found that 65% of all women had experienced street harassment. Among all women, 23% had been sexually touched, 20% had been followed, and 9% had been forced to do something sexual. Among men, 25% had been street harassed (a higher percentage of LGBT-identified men than heterosexual men reported this) and their most common form of harassment was homophobic or transphobic slurs (9%). Read more findings.



More studies about the street harassment of women and female-identified individuals:

1 — Forty Academic & Community Studies



2 —- Two Online Studies by Stop Street Harassment

In one of the surveys of 811 women, 99 percent experienced street harassment, including:





More studies about the street harassment of LGBQT individuals:

* According to a report by the Center for American Progress, LGBT individuals report high rates of discrimination in public spaces, so did gay New York residents who took a 2001 survey.

* Transgender individuals face particularly high rates of public discrimination according to a report by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) and the National Center for Transgender Equality (NCTE).

* 2013 study of 93,000 LGBQT individuals in the European Union found that half avoided public spaces sometimes because of street harassment and most reported high levels of fear in locations like restaurants, public transportation, streets, parking lots, and parks.

* When Patrick Ryne McNeil surveyed 331 gay and bisexual men around the world about their experience with street harassment for his master’s thesis in 2012, about 90 percent said they are sometimes, often, or always harassed or made to feel unwelcome in public spaces because of their perceived sexual orientation.



Okay, so I have stats backing me. What did you have when you made assumption that India is unsafe for women than the rest of the world other than your inferiority complex?

Sorry what stats? The you tube videos? Hang on 5 minutes, I'll make a you tube video proving or disproving any theory of your choice. Show me proper scientific/sociological comparison data and then show me five young women who have ever used a normal bus in India ( not the ac or deluxe versions ). Just a normal bus and has never been groped or felt up and I will cede that sexual harassment does not occur in India.

 

[nForce]

please explain.

We should have a separate thread for that, with the objectives of answering the What, Why and Who. Also, possible solutions if the thread is not ruined by that time already ?

 

[jamahir]

We should have a separate thread for that, with the objectives of answering the What, Why and Who. Also, possible solutions if the thread is not ruined by that time already ?

i will create a thread for that soon, with a neutral approach, and tag you there.

 

[nForce]

You are all over the place my dear, all over...now focus..

Being a bigger in area or population does not give you ANY right to first sponsor cross-border terrorism in neighboring countries and then run around the world like a headless chicken, when some neighbor pays you back in the same coin.

This is 21st century and world does not have time or stomach for your little dramas anymore.

Instead of supporting this policy of cross-border terrorism, you should condemn it and ask your govt to rethink about it, before it is too late. Learn something from China about how you earn respect.

This all I have to say about this topic in this thread.

Better talk about it in a more relevant thread.

 

[Sky lord]

marriage is better a contract, built upon legally-bound obligation of mutual respect... no respect, break marriage.

Why? Just because Muslims have a contract, so it must be the best way to do it? You are the most bigoted indian Muslim I have ever heard the opinions of.

 

[jamahir]

Why? Just because Muslims have a contract, so it must be the best way to do it?

there are practical reasons.

You are the most bigoted indian Muslim I have ever heard the opinions of.

more than mujhaidind??

 

[Sky lord]

So, why is Hillary Clinton in the fray now? Due to her own merit or because she is a Clinton? What about Argentinian president Kirchener?

How about Mayawati? Godfathers? Mamata Banerjee? Godfathers again? Shiela Dixit?

What about Sucheta Kriplani the first woman chief minister in India of a backward state called Uttar Pradesh?

Sucheta Kriplani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How about this?

Two Million Women Leaders and Counting | International Museum of Women

A million elected women in India's local governments!

Women opt for donating a kidney to their husband as do husbands for their wives. It is a natural course for a union tied in love. People who consider marriage to be a contract will not understand that.

Majority of the financies in India are handled by the women of India, so much for your talk of economic independence. From what furniture should be purchased at home to what food anyone is going to eat is decided by the woman of the household. Majority Indian men are carelessly shabbily dressed because they barely spend money on their own upkeep, but every single women and children are decked out in their best. Why? Economic oppression?

So according to you, there is no discrimination against women in India ? Saudis say the same thing too you know, so do Pakistanis. When they say it I have always assumed that their pride is getting in the way of reality, I think the same goes for you.

Why do women have to pay men to marry them? Why don't men do hours of housework? Why don't men stay at home and take care of their children while their wives work? And why does society feel uncomfortable when that does indeed occasionally happen?

You think Hilary Clinton is where she is because of her husband? matter of opinion, I think her husband got where he is because of her. Don't make things so black and white, western women have a way to go, they are by no means equal but they are at least a generation ahead of Indian women.

Finances in your home may be handled by you, but don't generalize. There are plenty of men who ask their wives to hand over their pay check and give out pocket money for the wife. There are plenty of men who think it is Ok to send money home to their parents but balk at a single cent going to the wife 's parents.

 

[Bitter Melon]

Sorry what stats? The you tube videos? Hang on 5 minutes, I'll make a you tube video proving or disproving any theory of your choice. Show me proper scientific/sociological comparison data and then show me five young women who have ever used a normal bus in India ( not the ac or deluxe versions ). Just a normal bus and has never been groped or felt up and I will cede that sexual harassment does not occur in India.

You mean apart from the youtube videos you missed out all the other links I presented? Here, let us check again if your eyesight has not gone completely bad. See those charts below?


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1 In 3 Women Has Been Sexually Harassed At Work, According To Survey

Sexual Harrassment - Fact Sheet - Feminist Majority Foundation

Equity in education is compromised and jeopardized by the existence of sexual harassment in educational institutions. In the 1993 American Association of University Women (AAUW) study "Hostile Hallways", 85% of all girls and 76% of boys reported having been sexually harassed at school. But, says Anne Bryant, former director of AAUW, "The impact on girls is far more devastating". Many more girls than boys said that, as a result of the harassment, they were afraid in school or less confident about themselves.

Statistics-
Stop Street Harassment
Street harassment is an under-researched topic, but it’s clear from the few studies that exist that it is a significant and prevalent problem.

In 2014, SSH commissioned a 2,000-person national survey in the USA with surveying firm GfK. The survey found that 65% of all women had experienced street harassment. Among all women, 23% had been sexually touched, 20% had been followed, and 9% had been forced to do something sexual. Among men, 25% had been street harassed (a higher percentage of LGBT-identified men than heterosexual men reported this) and their most common form of harassment was homophobic or transphobic slurs (9%). Read more findings.



More studies about the street harassment of women and female-identified individuals:

1 — Forty Academic & Community Studies



2 —- Two Online Studies by Stop Street Harassment

In one of the surveys of 811 women, 99 percent experienced street harassment, including:







Now you claim those youtube videos were contrived to make India look good and New York look bad? All those streets those women walked was all acting?

Did I claim there is no sexual harassment in India? Being a woman I would not do so. But it is not of a magnitude as liked to be claimed by our adarsh liberals. I have 1 college going niece and I live in Bangalore. Why 5? I will show you hundreds of women and girls who have never been harassed in public transport in India. In fact, I did ask my niece and her friends when these rape cases started making headlines if they had ever experienced any harassment. They looked at me as if I was from Mars. All these girls are more out of the home than at home on any given day.

 

[Sky lord]

there are practical reasons.



more than mujhaidind??

Mujahaidind is a little crazy , you are just bigoted with a a Libyan paranoia.

 

[Bitter Melon]

So according to you, there is no discrimination against women in India ? Saudis say the same thing too you know, so do Pakistanis. When they say it I have always assumed that their pride is getting in the way of reality, I think the same goes for you.

Why do women have to pay men to marry them? Why don't men do hours of housework? Why don't men stay at home and take care of their children while their wives work? And why does society feel uncomfortable when that does indeed occasionally happen?

You think Hilary Clinton is where she is because of her husband? matter of opinion, I think her husband got where he is because of her. Don't make things so black and white, western women have a way to go, they are by no means equal but they are at least a generation ahead of Indian women.

Finances in your home may be handled by you, but don't generalize. There are plenty of men who ask their wives to hand over their pay check and give out pocket money for the wife. There are plenty of men who think it is Ok to send money home to their parents but balk at a single cent going to the wife 's parents.

Very objective of you to compare Saudi Arabia with India. Are you sure India is not the next Somalia and there are no bombs raining down your compound and it is my pride which is refusing me to accept the India is Somalia?

Men in traditional Hindu families got the property while women got the dowry. So that dowry was the only claim a woman had on her parents property. That changed with Hindu girls made eligible to family property from her parents side. Who said men do not do housework? A man not going to work is supposed to help at home and does. From gardening to spring cleaning to even washing up dishes and cooking. Majority of men though worked outside the house and majority of women chose to be housewives. Now when majority of women are housewives at home, do you expect them to sit on their asses and do no work at all?

Who says men cannot sit at home and raise children? No one feels uncomfortable with this arrangement. No one goes to anyone's house and determines who should work or not work. Why do you discriminate against your hand when you use your feet to walk? Why do you use your feet to walk? Why do you use your mouth to talk instead of your nose? Such discrimination against your nose? That is the logic of your questions.

Yeah I know how ahead Hillary Clinton was when she stood by her husband while he was getting serviced by Monica.

Finances in your home may be handled by you, but don't generalize. There are plenty of men who ask their wives to hand over their pay check and give out pocket money for the wife. There are plenty of men who think it is Ok to send money home to their parents but balk at a single cent going to the wife 's parents.

You can take a survey and you will find that 80-90% of households are run by woman and it is the man who hands over the paycheck to his wife. Plenty of men think it is okay to send money home to their parents because their parents were dependent on the men for their last years of life having spent all their income on his education and marriage. Women were not expected to take care of their parents, it was the job of her brothers. Likewise, you will find all of North India where families refuse to take a single rupee from their daughters even if she was earning so literally all her money she saves is hers. Neither the husband nor the father or brother will ever touch her money.

For those feminists who shout themselves hoarse about women's financial independence.

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