British MI6, Foreign Office 'used' the MQM to 'exert influence' on Pakistan.

[Gazi]

I will term this Circular Mindset (like circular debt) where everyone is aggressor and aggrieved at the same time, FATA, KPK, Baluchistan, Punjab everyone has their grievances and fingers pointed at others. The only difference is people of Karachi are educated they can make the difference but they insist on being part of problem not the solution. Ask youth of Karachi how many of them are willing to serve Pakistan Army? Police? Civil services, most of them you would find are looking for immigration. So I don't see and end to this problem without a drastic change in attitude of Pakistanis.

Right when Baloch start asking for their Legitimate rights people termed them as "Naraaz Baloch" when FATA people ask to leave them alone and let them lives by their Tribal rules and dont even accept Pakistani laws they still remain Patriotic but when Karachiite as whole ask for something they become Enemy of Pakistan and Traitors and what not (despite all those allegations were refuted by same people in the past) what would you consider that Mindset....I dont believe that would fall into "Circular mindset". You have been to Karachi you are also aware of Karachi Problem as well and our Law enforcement attitude towards solving them Do you find any such example in other Provinces?

Karachi Circular Railway was a true blessing, I would commute my two hours journey in just 20 minutes. Then again railway as a whole is a loss making entity and burden on our national treasury. As far as BRT are concerned transporters of Karachi are a strong cartel they won't let anybody survive otherwise I remember traveling in nice green buses which are sitting now somewhere in junkyards.

Indeed Pakistan Railway is loss making entity but Public Private Partnership can make it work K Electric is such an example also PTCL and about Transport Cartels then they are not Totaly uncontrollable if Govt is Willing to put their efforts into it since we dont expect Provincial Govt to do that but even federal Govt. has not shown any Interest in this issue is mind boggling because it is Federal Govt which COLLECTS revenues not Provincial Govt. and Karachiite despite of all its Problem still has $78 Billion GDP out of close to $245 Billion of whole Pakistan.

MQM did provide a platform to mediocre Pakistanis to participate in National politics and raise their voices, it has its discipline and some good people too but again the bad side of it over weighs the potential it holds to make positive contribution. Rest PTI, PPP, PMLN, ANP etc all are useless and thrive for their self interests only.

Most those Bad side is more of Fragment of our minds. When any crime inside Karachi happened People outside Karachi Automatically Associate it with MQM Despite their are so many other Criminal elements which are known throughout for their Notoriety. When those same MQM so called Criminal Elements are given Authority in the Govt. they also made an Example.of Good Governance as well. What would you consider that??For your Info MQM also have Accountability as well and which is lot better then other Parties in Pakistan but most of the time they are not consulted by Law enforcement Authority and this is actual reason for all the Backlash happened after their members get Extra Judicially Killed(I think That is Illegal BTW) So what do you expect them to do?Sit their until every single one of them are Kidnapped and Killed by Authorities? They have been Accused for so long without any Actual evidence and Ethnic and regional Biased against them are also strong by rest of Pakistan so in this situation what do you even expect???

 

[Asian.Century]

MQM Hussain must now be arrested as soon as possible.

 

[Gazi]

MQM Hussain must now be arrested as soon as possible.

Why dont you people Try that on British Govt. Maybe we get to see the end of Altaf.

 

[Menace2Society]

Why dont you people Try that on British Govt. Maybe we get to see the end of Altaf.

We did.

10,000 people signed a petition which meant Altaf issue would be discussed in Houses of Parliament. Also people here and the US called London Met Police to report him as a terrorist after he made those remarks of separating Karachi from Pakistan.

Nothing came of it.

Pakistan has to apply real pressure on British govt and make it a public issue. Harboring an international terrorist is not a small thing.

Extradition treaty needs to be looked at on an emergency basis and Altaf must be deported to answer to his crimes.

 

[Gazi]

We did.

10,000 people signed a petition which meant Altaf issue would be discussed in Houses of Parliament. Also people here and the US called London Met Police to report Altaf Hussain as a terrorist after he made those remarks of separating Karachi from Pakistan.

Nothing came of it.

Pakistan has to apply real pressure on British govt and make it a public issue. Harboring an international terrorist is not a small thing.

Extradition treaty needs to be looked at on an emergency basis and Altaf must be deported to answer to his crimes.

So you people just Failed despite of all the efforts and also after having Huge Diaspora who are mostly against him and believe that Commenting here would solve your case. Give me a break. Pakistani Citizens in UK are in Huge number there and if they are still not Influential then all I can say is Biggest UK Pakistanis are Disappointment for Pakistani Expat Community.

 

[Faiez]

what acquisitions?

he probably meant "accusations"....but instead wrote "acquisitions"....lol

RIP English.

 

[Menace2Society]

So you people just Failed despite of all the efforts and also after having Huge Diaspora who are mostly against him and believe that Commenting here would solve your case. Give me a break. Pakistani Citizens in UK are in Huge number there and if they are still not Influential then all I can say is Biggest UK Pakistanis are Disappointment for Pakistani Expat Community.

What are we supposed to do? Change the extradition treaty by ourselves?

This is job of governments of both countries. Where is Pakistan government action? They are doing nothing to address the problem.

As soon as Pakistani media and government declare Altaf and MQM as terrorists, this will be pressure that will push UK to do needful. I know how UK works, they always look for moral highground.

You brandish him as a terrorist and they will have to deport him. Simple as that.

 

[Gazi]

What are we supposed to do? Change the extradition treaty by ourselves?

This is job of governments of both countries. Where is Pakistan government action? They are doing nothing to address the problem.

As soon as Pakistani media and government declare Altaf and MQM as terrorists, this will be pressure that will push UK to do needful.

Pulls some String genius. There may be some MPs of Pakistani Descendant who have beef against him and can pull some strings if they asked to.

In Pakistan MQM is just confined to Two Cities only and the whole State wasnt able to Finish them off so what do you expect would happened???Pakistan is a lost cause anyway for Extradition.

Pakistani Media has been Trying their level best to do that and even State is Trying their best in that matter as well in the form of Raids and Saulat Mirza Episode but no avail till now. They even have Bargaining Chip of two Assasins of Imran Farooq in their Hands but nothing till now. This one guy is strong enough to make a fool out of whole Country something quite Embarrassing to see here.

 

[Divergent]

I find it pretty comical how the party is still operating without the leader, especially when he's a traitor to Pakistan. Surely that in itself raises doubts and should disqualify the party from making any sort of political decision in Pakistan.

 

[A.A. Khan]

Topi drama going on. Misleading headline, MQM does'nt have the ' influence' as its not a mainstream party.

MI 6 actually lot of agencies have ties with Peoples PArty. From Iran, India to US. PPP introduced CNN in1990.
The electricity policy in 1994 which stopped any public sector investment.
IMF was shoved down throats of Pakistanis in 1993, and food inflation [food prices] jumped after which a Pak household was forced to allow women to work. Changes in Social makeup [society] and denigration of past values thru use of economic tools, etc.. Pak Currency was devalued vociferously between 1993-1995. It is a party of people who can sell their family for money as one EU Minister said that on their face. It was during PPP trying to borrow more from PAris Club and creating debt, which still cannot be paid off. Its a party of corrupt traitors with greed, self interests.
In PPP party meeting f anyone talks about country or even the nationalist province he is regarded as ****** [idiot] or the term 'mental' now used for people who talk about Pro-Pakistan or anything beneficial for Pakistan. Its either trying to devise plans against political opponents, find places for corruption or help 'loyal' party workers with jobs above their paygrade
Post 2008, People like sectarian Faisal Raza Abidi and MArvi Sirmed [based in NEw delhi at that time] were given party spokesperson duties. Farahnaz Ispahani [CNN producer at that time]. Hussain Haqqani [ agent
based in US at that time], who employed them?

Foreign entities try to influence policy, they don't need goons from a particular city to exert influence.

Hindu marriage bill. Sindh conversion bill . Did MQM brought these measures. Its extremely divided and has a electorate that is too pro-muslim. PPP also has a conservative electorate it has destroyed many Sindhi issues by defaming them internationally. Allowing western to publicise Karo Kari media reports in 1990s.

Now PPP quietly allow foreign propagandist media, drones [attacks spiked from 2008-2013] and what not

Now even PML-N is no different, it also has foreig influence. I consider Pakistanis more smart than this, want to check ' foreign influence' check policy that unravels in years and changes nations.