"Britain is like an old theme park sliding into the Atlantic compared to modern China." Former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating

[mudas777]

I even dread living in London, the best Britain has to offer. it is congested, dirty and lack amenities. Driving here is a nightmare, parking is a nightmare. They started tfl to better the infrastructure of the city. They takes billions out of the pockets of Londoners every year. But nothing has changed much. Apart from cosmetic changes by painting cycle lanes and restricting cars where ever is possible they do nothing at all. In my area, they have blocked so many streets with huge flower pots at the entrances to make them on way, thus thwarting the flow of the traffic. They are gradually closing all the streets, which provides any kind of short cuts to avoid jam roads. By putting the whole traffic on already congested roads what you will achieve apart from more pollution!!
The planners here are whacky, I always pinpoint to my wife what streets are on their target next, and voila, within months or a year, those streets are blocked. My wife laughs, and i fume to see my tax sterling spent on shit schemes.
The recent innovation is to put plastic sticks to separate cycle lanes from the main traffic.
What those sticks have done, have blocked all the parking on the road, including delivery parking and access. whole length of roads in suburbia are now economically damage, shop keepers crying m because customer's traffic is dying down, nobody can park the cars, so now they go to bigger store where car parks are available, the small business had it.

Daft idiots.

Nation of traders and innovation have become by standers and irrelevant. Instead of building better roads and improve flow of traffic they are choking the roads and destroying their own economy. That's what happens when there are too many chiefs and few Indians.
Mean while China have invested into infrastructure so instead of learning from others UK decided to send plane carrier in the south China sea to open up some blocked waterway. Digging their own watery grave to stop others progression what a insane nation.
Why not learn from your neighbours Germany after world war how they developed and reset their mind set. US and Western world should change their mindset from envy and jealousy to stop their own decline and be relevant by better policies, hard work and by adopting to the changing world around them.

 

[retaxis]

Chinese Australians like myself benefitted greatly under Paul Keating. He opened the doors to hundreds of thousands of Chinese into Australia in the 90s and is not a white anglo supremacists. very good guy wish we had more people like him.

 

[Khan_21]

What does Britain even produce nowadays except for the same scammy wall street financial products made in the City of London?

Most of Britain's cities nowadays are bleak and run down compared to China's shining metropolises and advanced infrastructure, that's an undeniable fact.

Shiny and new doesnt mean its better. Majority of the cities that top quality of life rankings dont have skylines or shiny railway stations eg Vienna , Zurich , Munich etc. Alot of the chinese cities are extremely polluted , lack city planning amd probably does not have the same level of health/education available as it is to a british in UK.

UK standard of living is still miles higher than China. There is a reason why so many chinese immigrate there and not the other way round.

 

[Communism]

Excuse me what u talking about!!
There is property tax in the UK, known as council Tax , you pay for all local amenities through it.
That is for running the local services.

But there is Stamp Duty on purchase of properties up to 8% depending on the purchase price.

I'm talking about the tax on the land of the lords, not the land of the plebians.

The U.K. doesn't have a proper property tax due to an effectively grandfathered in lord's land tax that is engineered to be as low as possible for the rich noble lords.

This is the same reason why California's and China's property market is totally fucked.

In the United States in general, the only legal way to pay low taxes as a "lord" aka rich person is to keep that net worth in investments, which is intended to make sure that one is doing something economically productive with it instead of simply extracting rent with your wealth.

The use of indirect taxation like value added tax for a large portion of the tax in proportion of the entire tax haul is also directly to benefit the rich rent seeking nobility.

That is why large value added taxes are popular in the rent seeking economies of Europe.

 

[beijingwalker]

UK standard of living is still miles higher than China. There is a reason why so many chinese immigrate there and not the other way round.

Not anymore. Don't forget that China was still one of the poorest countries barely a decade ago, but she's catching up amazingly fast. Your claim was based on the past which is becoming increasely irrelevant for today and the future. More Chinese students may like to go there to study, but not to settle down and live.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Shiny and new doesnt mean its better. Majority of the cities that top quality of life rankings dont have skylines or shiny railway stations eg Vienna , Zurich , Munich etc. Alot of the chinese cities are extremely polluted , lack city planning amd probably does not have the same level of health/education available as it is to a british in UK.

UK standard of living is still miles higher than China. There is a reason why so many chinese immigrate there and not the other way round.

Almost no Chinese migrate to UK. 400k out of 65 million is nothing compared to 3 million Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis. And even among the 400k, the majority of Chinese in the UK are noncitizens on student visas with no intent to immigrate.

China has some of the best city planning in the world. More sidewalks, more subways, faster internet... basically more and better infrastructure in general. You must be thinking of Pakistan or Indian cities which are crowded, dirty and slum stricken. China is not Pakistan or India. We have 5-6x higher GDP per capita than subcontinental countries, which is a far bigger gap than that between China and UK.

 

[Beast]

fake news

meanwhile HMS Queen Elizabeth just spent 6 months in the South China Sea and China could do nothing to stop them even although its right on Chinas door step

and Russia has been crying since Type 45 DDG entered Black Sea

while neither Russia or China combined could get a Carrier Strike Group anywhere near the Mediterranean or Atlantic let alone close to UK

Did u forget to take your medicine?

If UK want to waste fuel and money sending warship to SCS. Does it make the fact UK infrastructure is inferior to China nowadays as fake?

Instead of bragging this thing, sensible British shall well spend the fuel and money on UK fleet to SCS , better channel in upgrade UK infrastructure or help more needy British. I believe that will be more meaningful...

Shiny and new doesnt mean its better. Majority of the cities that top quality of life rankings dont have skylines or shiny railway stations eg Vienna , Zurich , Munich etc. Alot of the chinese cities are extremely polluted , lack city planning amd probably does not have the same level of health/education available as it is to a british in UK.

UK standard of living is still miles higher than China. There is a reason why so many chinese immigrate there and not the other way round.

Lol.. you are a frog still living in UK a decade ago. Now it's the reverse. The only polluting city now is New Delhi. The standard of living in Beijing and Shanghai are much higher than most British enjoyed. China is not a country open to migrants like UK, Europe or US.

Most dream but very little people can get Chinese green card. There is a reason why Chinese green card is the most difficult to obtain in the world. Even u have hundred million dollar will not gurantee u get a green card in China.

 

[Khan_21]

Did u forget to take your medicine?

If UK want to waste fuel and money sending warship to SCS. Does it make the fact UK infrastructure is inferior to China nowadays as fake?

Instead of bragging this thing, sensible British shall well spend the fuel and money on UK fleet to SCS , better channel in upgrade UK infrastructure or help more needy British. I believe that will be more meaningful...

Lol.. you are a frog still living in UK a decade ago. Now it's the reverse. The only polluting city now is New Delhi. The standard of living in Beijing and Shanghai are much higher than most British enjoyed. China is not a country open to migrants like UK, Europe or US.

Most dream but very little people can get Chinese green card. There is a reason why Chinese green card is the most difficult to obtain in the world. Even u have hundred million dollar will not gurantee u get a green card in China.

Why would i spend millions for a green card where my salary will be peanuts compared to where i am? Chinese treatment of muslims in xinjiang is nothing to be proud of. I wouldnt like living in such a place.

As for standard of living compre per capita , HDI , university rankings , social prosperity , health indicators and you will know who is ahead.

Almost no Chinese migrate to UK. 400k out of 65 million is nothing compared to 3 million Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis. And even among the 400k, the majority of Chinese in the UK are noncitizens on student visas with no intent to immigrate.

China has some of the best city planning in the world. More sidewalks, more subways, faster internet... basically more and better infrastructure in general. You must be thinking of Pakistan or Indian cities which are crowded, dirty and slum stricken. China is not Pakistan or India. We have 5-6x higher GDP per capita than subcontinental countries, which is a far bigger gap than that between China and UK.

More highways/subways do not mean anything. Like I said before majority of the cities with highest quality of life are not shiny. Chinese cities atleast the modern ones look ugly to me. No originality just skylines. Your quality of life is not even better than countries like turkey or malaysia.

Rich in China get out first thing in the morning along with their families to US/UK /Canada/Australia.

The chinese make up most numbers for cyprus and portugese citizenship by investment programmes.

CCP propaganda will not work for me. Improve your treatment of xinjinag muslims and then come talk. Thank us for allowing you to express freedom of expression here on PDF because you dont give the same to the uighuyrs.

I dont live in UK but even I know UK per capita is $42K and China just passed 10. So thats more than 4 times. Simple google search

 

[Khan_21]

Not anymore. Don't forget that China was still one of the poorest countries barely a decade ago, but she's catching up amazingly fast. Your claim was based on the past which is becoming increasely irrelevant for today and the future. More Chinese students may like to go there to study, but not to settle down and live.

400K chinese are going there for a reason. Its also a major destination for chinese billionaires/millionaires to settle down because they themselves dont want to raise their kids inside china.

 

[crankthatskunk]

I'm talking about the tax on the land of the lords, not the land of the plebians.

The U.K. doesn't have a proper property tax due to an effectively grandfathered in lord's land tax that is engineered to be as low as possible for the rich noble lords.

This is the same reason why California's and China's property market is totally fucked.

In the United States in general, the only legal way to pay low taxes as a "lord" aka rich person is to keep that net worth in investments, which is intended to make sure that one is doing something economically productive with it instead of simply extracting rent with your wealth.

The use of indirect taxation like value added tax for a large portion of the tax in proportion of the entire tax haul is also directly to benefit the rich rent seeking nobility.

That is why large value added taxes are popular in the rent seeking economies of Europe.

English please.
From your all over piece, what I have gathered is that you don't have comprehension of property tax or how taxation is designed in the UK!!

The rental income is treated like any other income in the UK on which you pay as high a tax as 50% plus 12% NI contribution on income. You think this is no tax on rental income!!
Plus if you buying a property known as buy to rent, you pay 2% higher stamp duty than if you buying for personal use. So Stamp Duty on the house could be as high as 10% of purchase price,

Plus recently the government has also removed the option to claim the interests charged on the mortgages for buy to let properties. So all the Rental income goes as your income, rather than before, the landlords could reduce the interests charged by the banks from the income.

 

[Communism]

English please.
From your all over piece, what I have gathered is that you don't have comprehension of property tax or how taxation is designed in the UK!!

The rental income is treated like any other income in the UK on which you pay as high a tax as 50% plus 12% NI contribution on income. You think this is no tax on rental income!!
Plus if you buying a property known as buy to rent, you pay 2% higher stamp duty than if you buying for personal use. So Stamp Duty on the house could be as high as 10% of purchase price,

Plus recently the government has also removed the option to claim the interests charged on the mortgages for buy to let properties. So all the Rental income goes as your income, rather than before, the landlords could reduce the interests charged by the banks from the income.

I don't think you understand what "rent-seeking" is.

The very fact that people are buying these things for capital gains is the problem already, full stop.

You are also conveniently totally ignoring the fact that the lords own enormous amounts of land at trivial property taxes.

Here is an article from the horse's mouth if you insist on pretending it's not an enormous problem.

Half of England is owned by less than 1% of the population | Property | The Guardian

 

[Beast]

Why would i spend millions for a green card where my salary will be peanuts compared to where i am? Chinese treatment of muslims in xinjiang is nothing to be proud of. I wouldnt like living in such a place.

As for standard of living compre per capita , HDI , university rankings , social prosperity , health indicators and you will know who is ahead.


More highways/subways do not mean anything. Like I said before majority of the cities with highest quality of life are not shiny. Chinese cities atleast the modern ones look ugly to me. No originality just skylines. Your quality of life is not even better than countries like turkey or malaysia.

Rich in China get out first thing in the morning along with their families to US/UK /Canada/Australia.

The chinese make up most numbers for cyprus and portugese citizenship by investment programmes.

CCP propaganda will not work for me. Improve your treatment of xinjinag muslims and then come talk. Thank us for allowing you to express freedom of expression here on PDF because you dont give the same to the uighuyrs.

I dont live in UK but even I know UK per capita is $42K and China just passed 10. So thats more than 4 times. Simple google search

Poor muslim like you stupidly listen to the hearsay of the worst Muslim destroyer, the crusader (US, UK and Jews, Western Society)

Let me show u a comedy created by your beloved US master of fakery and lies.

If you can believed such video, clearly show your soul of muslim has already sold to those US crusaders.

And let me show u the real killer of Muslim...

China treat Muslim far better than those Western crusaders who are master of manipulation and only good in showmanship to fool idiots like you. And your master US support India Hindu killer against Muslim. So u are telling me, you support those Hindu killer against Muslim? Where is your white master condemnation against those Hindu riot in 2019? Even the arabs and Iran got balls to tell off India but zero comdemnation from US about Indian Hindu shame against Muslim. Your action clearly tells me you are a fake muslim.

 

[beijingwalker]

400K chinese are going there for a reason. Its also a major destination for chinese billionaires/millionaires to settle down because they themselves dont want to raise their kids inside china.

I told you that this trend is changing now, you just base your judgement on past figures, China just developed less than 10 years ago, there'll be some lag in some sections but we are gettting there very fast, as for how the Chinese people think about the west in general now, we know it better than you.

See what the Chinese think about wide spread US homelessness

‘What about stray people?’: Chinese TikToker shocked by number of homeless people after living in US for 2 years
November. 05 2021

Chinese TikToker shocked by scale of homelessness in US

A Chinese TikToker has shared her shock at the number of rough sleepers in her new city of Portland, Oregon.She said she moved to America two years ago, and since then she has been struck by how stark the issue of homelessness is.She shared how when she and her husband, Charlie were walking down...

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[crankthatskunk]

Why would i spend millions for a green card where my salary will be peanuts compared to where i am? Chinese treatment of muslims in xinjiang is nothing to be proud of. I wouldnt like living in such a place.

As for standard of living compre per capita , HDI , university rankings , social prosperity , health indicators and you will know who is ahead.


More highways/subways do not mean anything. Like I said before majority of the cities with highest quality of life are not shiny. Chinese cities atleast the modern ones look ugly to me. No originality just skylines. Your quality of life is not even better than countries like turkey or malaysia.

Rich in China get out first thing in the morning along with their families to US/UK /Canada/Australia.

The chinese make up most numbers for cyprus and portugese citizenship by investment programmes.

CCP propaganda will not work for me. Improve your treatment of xinjinag muslims and then come talk. Thank us for allowing you to express freedom of expression here on PDF because you dont give the same to the uighuyrs.

I dont live in UK but even I know UK per capita is $42K and China just passed 10. So thats more than 4 times. Simple google search

Brother, i live in the UK and I am not poor or struggling in life Alhamdullah.
But for you to compare countries just on the basis of pure GDP per capita, is highly misleading and inaccurate.

First of all Calculation of Per Capita GDP is just a median number, not a representative of vast swathe of population. By definition half of the population of any country would be blow that GDP figure. So half of the country according to your own thinking is not well off in their own country.

There are far more complicated calculation involved to see the true local purchasing power parity between different countries.

I know on quality of life you may be right, Pakistan is as good as China and India despite far low per capita income.
That's where Indians make a huge mistake. I once shared figures for BD and Sri Lanka , both higher than India and Pakistan in GDP. Per their standard of living indicators are far far below India or Pakistan.
In a nutshell, pls don't use simple Per Capita income as an indicator of standard of living.

 

[Beast]

Brother, i live in the UK and I am not poor or struggling in life Alhamdullah.
But for you to compare countries just on the basis of pure GDP per capita, is highly misleading and inaccurate.

First of all Calculation of Per Capita GDP is just a median number, not a representative of vast swathe of population. By definition half of the population of any country would be blow that GDP figure. So half of the country according to your own thinking is not well off in their own country.

There are far more complicated calculation involved to see the true local purchasing power parity between different countries.

I know on quality of life you may be right, Pakistan is as good as China and India despite far low per capita income.
That's where Indians make a huge mistake. I once shared figures for BD and Sri Lanka , both higher than India and Pakistan in GDP. Per their standard of living indicators are far far below India or Pakistan.
In a nutshell, pls don't use simple Per Capita income as an indicator of standard of living.

He is not your brother. Just a US boot licker who will agree with anything his US master say and do including slaying Muslim.