What's new

Breaking News : Huge Explosion at Kabul Airport

.
give your thoughts , whose interest does this blast serve the most:

My take

India - India would like to see continued US entanglement in the region , its hope is that a deteriorating security situation would pressure the US to stay on and hence secure India's position as a side effect.

Iran - Iran does feel threatened by Taliban due to sectarian issues , Iran aligned itself with the US to install an Iranian friendly regime in Iraq and Syria , looking to repeat the same ?

Saudi - Saudi Arabia seems to be suspiciously quiet over the development in Afghanistan , maybe in their calculus too having US presence in Afghanistan helps them ?

Elders of Zion - This one group would like to see perpetual war in Muslim countries , 9/11 benefitted this group the most , they may have a new trick up their sleeve to compel more war!
 
.
This also shows limitations of AT who are expected to clean Afghanistan of terror orgs like ISIS. Fighting as an insurgent is completely different from fighting against an insurgency and providing protection to common people and businesses. Its in every one’s interest to move past the previous conflict and make Afghanistan stable, Pakistan has a lot at stake here.
 
.
India did not appreciate Biden's press conference.
 
.
This also shows limitations of AT who are expected to clean Afghanistan of terror orgs like ISIS. Fighting as an insurgent is completely different from fighting against an insurgency and providing protection to common people and businesses. Its in every one’s interest to move past the previous conflict and make Afghanistan stable, Pakistan has a lot at stake here.

If AT are not watchful , they'll get entrapped

They have to win over the people with trust and good governance , something that Pakistan government also needs to do with its own people.
 
.
1) The attack was from ISIS.

What is the proof?


4) Biden said USA is going to go after the ISIS targets and there are some known targets. That can't be possible now without the on-the-ground Taliban help because the Taliban control over 95% of Afghanistan.
5) Taliban are 'not nice' but that's as far as he went. No more we would bomb them into this or that as was being said just a few days ago!

So WOT 2.0 (may be carried out remotely) will be started and continue indefinitely because I bet you as soon as you will take out the last ISIS fighter ... you will hear another emerging threat to keep the WOT 2.0 alive and with that will go in drains China/s expansion of its belt and road initiative etc plus any guarantee that their will be a lasting peace in Afghanistan and in the region ...

A country where, ABOVE ALL, the 'public opinion' can make even the President of America to change strategic policies unless there is a 'manufacturing of consent', as Chomsky had put it.

Well the average Joe does not care much he is more concerned in providing food on the table; and as far as making "Public Opinion" goes...who makes it the mainstream media, the similar opinion which led the sheeple public to vote for War in Iraq...?
 
.
Al-Qaeda Network was the primary spoiler and target in the region.

Afghan Taliban were secondary targets for being shortsighted but Allah Almighty have given them another chance.

All stakeholders have something to learn from this war.

ISIS-K in hot waters now. Joe Biden have given the nod to curb this threat. Let us see what Afghan Taliban will do in this regard.

Terrorism in any shape or form is unethical and evil.
ISIS Khurasan are some viscous people their violence is no less than daesh or TTP. executing women children including pregnant women attacking schools hospitals mosques is just one of many examples. nothing is off limit for these hounds of Hell.
What is the proof?
there is none, other than suspicions by both the Taliban and the NATO that the attack was from Daesh, ISIS Khurasan chapter. there might be a claim for responsibility posted on internet later but one can also question that.
for now we will have process of elimination. both Americans and Taliban have avoided blaming each other for the attack that leaves the Northern Alliance militia which will be counter productive for it as it is negotiating true with Taliban and some of its members want American help to escape Afghanistan.
it only leaves ISIS -K with previous similar history and any other unknown group that has not surfaced yet.
 
.
Yes sir. So Biden Press Conference just ended and a few takeaways:
1) The attack was from ISIS.
2) There is some understanding with the Taliban--on that he referred to Gen. McKenzie's statement and mentioned 'mutual interests' with Taliban.
3) The Aug. 31 deadline is going to be kept. No surprise because yesterday Blinken also stressed adhering to the deadline and that evacuations would continue after that. But both Blinken yesterday and Biden today stressed that not many Americans are left. And today Biden even alluded to 'millions of Afghans' may not be eligible to leave Afghanistan--a BIG SLAP on the Western Media who have been protesting about Taliban stopping people from leaving Afghanistan.
4) Biden said USA is going to go after the ISIS targets and there are some known targets. That can't be possible now without the on-the-ground Taliban help because the Taliban control over 95% of Afghanistan.
5) Taliban are 'not nice' but that's as far as he went. No more we would bomb them into this or that as was being said just a few days ago!

People really need to understand how America works. It is a country with many 'centers of powers'. A country where major policies can change with the change of the Presidency. A country where, ABOVE ALL, the 'public opinion' can make even the President of America to change strategic policies unless there is a 'manufacturing of consent', as Chomsky had put it.
yea the Americans are grudgingly forced to trust the Taliban as its in its self interest to see Americans leave as promised without any hurdle. American and British forces have praised Taliban for establishing security and law and order and also letting the NATO forces leave freely. and none of the two parties is willing to brake this truce.
 
.
What is the proof?
Both Afghan Taliban and USA had INTEL that ISIS-K will take its chances in Kabul Airport. This is apparent from multiple streams of reports when intervowen to figure out the bigger picture.
 
.
it only leaves ISIS -K with previous similar history and any other unknown group that has not surfaced yet.
Sir any new proxy can be used you can label them whatever is convenient for you ... the REAL culprit will never be known unfortunately.
Both Afghan Taliban and USA had INTEL that ISIS-K will take its chances in Kabul Airport. This is apparent from multiple streams of news when intervowen to figure out the bigger picture.
You mean the mainstream media...WHY people forget Iraq war so easily...that should be the litmus test for mainstream media which led to a War which cost millions of innocent Iraqi lives ... unfortunately there is no independent impartial investigative agency to take an assignment of finding out what is really happening on the ground...
 
.
What is the proof?
So WOT 2.0 (may be carried out remotely) will be started and continue indefinitely because I bet you as soon as you will take out the last ISIS fighter ... you will hear another emerging threat to keep the WOT 2.0 alive and with that will go in drains China/s expansion of its belt and road initiative etc plus any guarantee that their will be a lasting peace in Afghanistan and in the region ...
Well the average Joe does not care much he is more concerned in providing food on the table; and as far as making "Public Opinion" goes...who makes it the mainstream media, the similar opinion which led the sheeple public to vote for War in Iraq...?

What Biden said today was a good development for Pakistan and Afghanistan. Proof or not. We will never know what really caused the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor. We will never know what made the Germans to sink Lusitania. Americans have been experts in making excuses for wars for over a century and are also experts in retreats from wars! And, as it stands, the world buys the American narrative.

As for the 'Average Joe': You really underestimate the power of the public opinion in America. Even for the Iraq War, despite a long time of 'manufacturing consent', the support to attack Iraq in America was barely around 50%. And Hillary lost to Obama for nomination because of her vote for the Iraq War. So, yes, the public opinion probably matters THE MOST in America compared with ANY other country of the world especially when it comes to foreign entanglements.

You live here--then you should learn to study the American culture. Knowledge is power.
 
.
12 US troops killed, 60 Afghan killed
 
.
Al-Qaeda Network was the primary spoiler and target in the region.

Afghan Taliban were secondary targets for being shortsighted but Allah Almighty have given them another chance.

All stakeholders have something to learn from this war.

ISIS-K in hot waters now. Joe Biden have given the nod to curb this threat. Let us see what Afghan Taliban will do in this regard.

Terrorism in any shape or form is unethical and evil.
Bidens' willingness to work with the Taliban will be ringing alarm bells in Panjshir right now....
 
. .
With Biden claiming inter co-op between US and Taliban to hunt down ISIS-K.
I expect Pakistan and Iran to hunt down respective miscreants in Afghanistan with cooperation with the Taliban.
Cross border joint ops are possible.
ITs OPEN HUNTING SEASON FOLKS
PICK A GAME AND FIRE AWAY !
:butcher::guns:

A 13th US service member has died. God bless
My condolences
 
.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom