BREAKING! Kandahar has been captured!

[LeGenD]

You don't undersetand how conventional war or even probability of engagements unfolds. What do you think an airstrike is a hydrogen bomb Airstrikes are not meant to win wars they have very little capacity effect but they can't deter someone like Taliban whos in advatageous terrain..If you ain't putting 300k foot soldiers on the ground there is really not much you can do conventionally and even they will be spitted out in couple years depleted and defeated rinse and repeat

Is this a joke?

Afghan Taliban-led government also folded to USAF + Special Forces + Northern Alliance in a span of 2 months back in 2001. It took Afghan Taliban several years to recover and Pakistan provided cover to this movement as well. Since USA was dependent upon Pakistan to reach Afghanistan, Pakistan was in the position to influence the course of this war and bring both Afghan Taliban and USA to the negotiation table.

What you see now in Afghanistan is mainly due to decision of Biden administration; Biden administration have ditched Ghani administration by committing to "conditional withdrawal." Although Joe Biden is under lot of criticism for this call and development. What he will tell Americans on 9/11? This will haunt Democrats in years to come.

OR maybe Joe Biden have his reasons? Time will tell.

Coming back to the main point, USA never fought in Afghanistan on the scale of let's say Iraq. Afghan Taliban are not really equipped to fight some of the best armies on Earth. Afghan Taliban simply benefited from the circumstances of the conflict and Pak-US relations. Afghanistan being a landlocked country works well for Afghan Taliban.

Americans have steamrolled much stronger opponents than Afghan Taliban.

ANA was not prepared to fight Afghan Taliban however - ANA have too many deficiencies in its composition and how it is led on the ground. ANA never stood a chance against Afghan Taliban without robust air cover - this they do not have now.

 

[Clutch]

please dont insult yourself and others by denying the savagery of Afghan taliban
they are one and same in their ideologyand conduct like TTP and Daesh.

I have lived long enough next to Afghanistan to meet the families of the victims who were massacred for their ethnicities and faith.

no foreign media or propogenda can replicate the real events and living scarred witnesses. Taliban are brutal savages to all Afghan people this is why they are hated by a substantial Afghan population. just because they are winning against a curropt regime doesnt make them right.

@Imran Khan
I am shocked and saddened by the misplaced celebrations by fellow Pakistanis here over the Taliban victories .. whats in store for Pakistan will sadly come soon and these celebrations will haunt us.. because the real benefactors are TTP. who will unleash another reign of terror on Pakistan.

question is.. why these beloved Afghan Taliban have not attacked TTP or BLA? its because the first ones are their brothers and second ones they don't care.

That is a concern I have too. I am not sure if this Taliban are the same savages of the 1990s... I am hoping they are not. However, I may be too naive to think so.

For now I will wait and see.

 

[Titanium100]

Is this a joke?

Afghan Taliban-led government also folded to USAF + Special Forces + Northern Alliance in a span of 2 months back in 2001. It took Afghan Taliban several years to recover and Pakistan provided cover to this movement as well. Since USA was dependent upon Pakistan to reach Afghanistan, Pakistan was in the position to influence the course of this war and bring both Afghan Taliban and USA to the negotiation table.

What you see now in Afghanistan is mainly due to decision of Biden administration; Biden administration have ditched Ghani administration by committing to "conditional withdrawal." Although Joe Biden is under lot of criticism for this call and development. What he will tell Americans on 9/11? This will haunt Democrats in years to come.

OR maybe Joe Biden have his reasons? Time will tell.

Coming back to the main point, USA never fought in Afghanistan on the scale of let's say Iraq. Afghan Taliban are not really equipped to fight some of the best armies on Earth. Afghan Taliban simply benefited from the circumstances of the conflict and Pak-US relations. Afghanistan being a landlocked country works well for Afghan Taliban.

Americans have steamrolled much stronger opponents than Afghan Taliban.

ANA was not prepared to fight Afghan Taliban however - ANA have too many deficiencies in its composition and how it is led on the ground. ANA never stood a chance against Afghan Taliban without robust air cover - this they do not have now.

Now let's get back to topic.

Taliban never folded but it was necessary and tactical for them. There was no way they could withstand the forces that came in who were over-armed compared to them but the solution was to go high-altitiude which they did same textbook against the soviets.. Experience, knowing the landscape and the type of war it requires to dry out the enemy and fatigued..

Mullah Omar said in response to the US in 2001 interview ''You have the watches, We have the time''

They already knew the plan and what they were going to do.. They were not clueless because they had been thru such exact war hence the experience but people are just realizing now that taliban all along knew how to execute the right type of tactical approach

 

[LeGenD]

Taliban will never build a nation, they dont know how and never will, but thatsallgudman cuz all we need is the army of the black flags,
the power of Taliban will encourage muslims across the world hopefully to challenge the New World Order that is enslaving us through the lie that is the banking system,
once the pieces are in place, the $$ AKA toilet paper money will collapse and we are free,
this is for me truly a dream about destroying the global banking System through a global muslim revolt led spiritually by the Taliban but the troops will be all 3 billion muslims,
just imagine a world free of the banking terror,
not even the hardcore anti muslim would go against it ,
and the only power challenging these evil globalists is islam and Taliban

Mashallah... You really need to study Economics and Financial Accounting. Modern countries do not run on "oxygen."

 

[ziaulislam]

If they offered up some young boys as prizes, they would have fought like tigers.

On a serious point most half decent armies are led by NCO's and junior officers, and the afgoons had neither.

Why???
USA has been there for 20 yrs
The youngest trainee should be in their late 40s now

Because of corruption

 

[Abid123]

Alhamdulillah!

 

[ziaulislam]

Taliban never folded but it was necessary and tactical for them. There was no way they could withstand the forces that came in who were over-armed compared to them but the solution was to go high-altitiude which they did same textbook against the soviets.. Experience, knowing the landscape and the type of war it requires to dry out the enemy and fatigued..

Mullah Omar said in response to the US in 2001 interview ''You have the watches, We have the time''

They already knew the plan and what they were going to do.. They were not clueless because they had been thru such exact war hence the experience but people are just realizing now that taliban all along knew how to execute the right type of tactical approach

Bliztkreig!!

 

[Bilal.]

Why???
USA has been there for 20 yrs
The youngest trainee should be in their late 40s now

Because of corruption

Because every damn officer in ANA is a General… their new Army Chief is a 35 year old.

 

[Titanium100]

Bliztkreig!!

Tactical retreat was the only right choice and that is what happened.. vacating all cities

 

[LeGenD]

Taliban never folded but it was necessary and tactical for them. There was no way they could withstand the forces that came in who were over-armed compared to them but the solution was to go high-altitiude which they did same textbook against the soviets.. Experience, knowing the landscape and the type of war it requires to dry out the enemy and fatigued..

Mullah Omar said in response to the US in 2021 interview ''You have the watches, We have the time''

They already knew the plan and what they were going to do.. They were not clueless because they had been thru such exact war hence the experience but people are just realizing now that taliban all along knew how to execute the right type of tactical approach

US-led forces routed Afghan Taliban and Al-Qaeda Network from the legendary Tora Bora cave complexes in 2002 as well - Soviets were unable to do this in 1980s.

Afghan Taliban suffered a major defeat in the (2001 - 2002) period. Some fighters fled to Pakistan in the form of refugees; some surrendered but were murdered by unforgiving warlords; some found peace in Afghanistan. Mullah Omar was in Afghanistan as well.

Afghan Taliban began to regroup across Pakistan and Afghanistan in 2004 with support of sympathizing elements among other factors including political motivations. Some strongly felt that they were wronged by those in Kabul and sought revenge. Afghan Taliban became strong again in 2014 after majority of NATO had left.

Americans were much more focused on developments in the Middle East as well - another war was fought on a much bigger scale in Iraq instead. You may understand how much of the resources were diverted towards fixing Iraq instead of Afghanistan.

Let's just say that American politicians were unable to capitalize on victory provided by US-led forces on the ground in Afghanistan, and resorted to 'questionable politics' instead. Its like American politicians had no clue about what to do with Afghanistan.

Why Americans do not question their politicians? Why trillions were spent on wars in Asia? For what?

 

[Titanium100]

US-led forces routed Afghan Taliban and Al-Qaeda Network from the legendary Tora Bora cave complexes in 2002 as well - Soviets were unable to do this in 1980s.

Afghan Taliban suffered a major defeat in the (2001 - 2002) period. Some fighters fled to Pakistan in the form of refugees; some surrendered but were murdered by unforgiving warlords; some found peace in Afghanistan. Mullah Omar was in Afghanistan as well.

Afghan Taliban began to regroup across Pakistan and Afghanistan in 2004 with support of sympathizing elements among other factors including political motivations. Some strongly felt that they were wronged by those in Kabul and sought revenge. Afghan Taliban became strong again in 2014 after majority of NATO had left.

Americans were much more focused on developments in the Middle East as well - another war was fought on a much bigger scale in Iraq instead. You may understand how much of resources were diverted towards fixing Iraq instead of Afghanistan.

You are spewing an old tired American narrative which was never the case.. routed or regrouped? to far fatched..

Does Mullah Omar sound to you a guy who was planning to directly eat all the firepower the US were gonna throw in the first few intense weeks? Absolutely not and As I already told you they alraedy knew what to expect..

''You have the watches, we have the time'' I remember even some accusing Taliban of fleeing altogether because they didn't understand why they left all the cities but it was tactical the US took empty cities As hilarious as it may seem this the truth.

They vacated everything and the US, Northern Alliance walked into empty cities and towns

 

[LeGenD]

You are spewing an old tired American narrative which was never the case.. routed or regrouped? to far fatched..

Does Mullah Omar sound to you a guy who was planning to directly eat all the firepower the US were gonna throw in the first few intense weeks? Absolutely not and As I already told you they alraedy knew what to expect..

''You have the watches, we have the time'' I remember even some accusing Taliban of fleeing altogether because they didn't understand why they left all the cities but it was tactical the US took empty cities As hilarious as it may seem this the truth.

They vacated everything and the US, Northern Alliance walked into empty cities and towns

I am not spewing any narrative but telling you what I could see happening all along.

There might be tactical withdrawals in some locations but Afghan Taliban lost thousands of fighters in clashes across Afghanistan in the (2001 - 2002) period. The organization as a whole tasted defeat and much of it was routed in the first two years of the war.

Some hardcore groups continued to fight but they suffered losses after losses as well. Go and read actual battles that are documented in books.

Afghan Taliban resurged [after] withdrawal of much of NATO in 2014.

Mind your language by the way.

 

[Titanium100]

Why???
USA has been there for 20 yrs
The youngest trainee should be in their late 40s now

Because of corruption

Amrullah Saleh should be made the military commander..

I am not spewing any narrative but telling you what I could see happening all along.

There might be tactical withdrawals in some locations but Afghan Taliban lost thousands of fighters in clashes across Afghanistan. Some hardcore groups continued to fight but they suffered losses after losses as well.

Afghan Taliban resurged after withdrawal of much of NATO in 2014.

Mind your language.

I don't think you were following that war.. They had minor clashes specifically the northern Alliance but nothing really but sporadic and few. The Northern Alliance, NATO were ghosted and they started to just arrest random civilians because they couldn't really get hold of an actual taliban for media and propaganda reasons so the Northern alliance just started arresting random folks on the highways

 

[Iñigo]

Saddam Hussein, local subcontractor of the imperial Terror, started to think for himself

Ariel Sharon calls for the destruction of Iraq

Likudnist in Washington "inside The Beltway", decide around 1998 to destroy Iraq and wait and look for the right occasion

18 Wahhabi attack New York

The imperial scriptwriters, taking advantage of the colossal ignorance of the American public, say: -We have been attacked by Mexicans (18 Wahabbi) so we are going to unleash Chaos and Terror in Canada (Irak)

We know this exactly because it was told by General Wesley Clark, who arrived at the Pentagon after 9/11:

-Sir, We are going to attack Iraq
-Why !?
-We don't Know

The Imperial screenwriters realize that their initial plans are too crude even for American audiences, so they begin attacking Afghanistan as the film script demands

Once the Taliban are defeated, the imperial troops do not leave because three of the greatest passions of the Anglo Empire converge there: Persia, Russia and China

 

[Titanium100]

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