Breaking: Bakhmut has been liberated to be called Artemovsk

[Dalit]

You obviously weren't checking the main threads about the war last year.

Losing a soldier is normal. Losing a few is expected. Losing a lot is bad. Having soldiers not joining because of how terrible the reputation of your officers and progress is...that means you've lost many enough. And that was months ago. Imagine the losses now. You don't want to think about soldier losses? Ok. Think about the amount of equipment the Russians have lost in the conflict.

All sides are making various claims. None can be verified.

What I can verify is that Bakhmut belongs to Russia.

 

[Foinikas]

It is the end goal that matters. I can also point out dozens of Western claims that haven't materialised. In the end, Russia fulfilled its promise of capturing Bakhmut. Russia deserves praise for doing what it promised.

That's why the Warhammer 40,000 memes.

Sending waves of soldiers to finally capture a destroyed city. Just like in World War II.

Think of the Russian soldiers a bit though too. Tens of thousands dying,for a few to manage to capture something that will have little significance in the war. Would you join that army?

For example,would you have liked it to be sent underequipped against a front where the Indian Army is technoligically stronger? Like cannon fodder? Sent just like that? And don't tell me "of course I would,yes". Because you're in Netherlands. You won't even be drafted in the PA

All sides are making various claims. None can be verified.

What I can verify is that Bakhmut belongs to Russia.

That's what I've been telling you for pages you dumbass. Now you realized it? FFS

 

[LeGenD]

Alright. Time to give credit where due: Russians stood their ground and won in the Battle of Bakhmut.

Zelenskyy expression:

NATO expression:

 

[Foinikas]

Alright. Time to give credit where due: Russians stood their ground and won in the Battle of Bakhmut.

Zelenskyy expression:

NATO expression:

They were preparing for the "big counterattack" 4 months now

 

[LeGenD]

They were preparing for the "big counterattack" 4 months now

They ran out of gas in the process....

 

[Dalit]

That's why the Warhammer 40,000 memes.

Sending waves of soldiers to finally capture a destroyed city. Just like in World War II.

Think of the Russian soldiers a bit though too. Tens of thousands dying,for a few to manage to capture something that will have little significance in the war. Would you join that army?

For example,would you have liked it to be sent underequipped against a front where the Indian Army is technoligically stronger? Like cannon fodder? Sent just like that? And don't tell me "of course I would,yes". Because you're in Netherlands. You won't even be drafted in the PA


That's what I've been telling you for pages you dumbass. Now you realized it? FFS

You haven't been saying that. Stop acting dumb. You have been focusing on Russian losses.

Who cares dude. Russia got Bakhmut. Now it will be pushing on for more.

 

[Foinikas]

You haven't been saying that. Stop acting dumb. You have been focusing on Russian losses.

Go back to where you started replying to me. I told you again and again not to take any side's propaganda seriously.
Stop spreading fake news.

 

[Dalit]

Go back to where you started replying to me. I told you again and again not to take any side's propaganda seriously.
Stop spreading fake news.

Fake news? Do I look like the media to you?

As for fake news, Russia winning Bakhmut is also fake news LOL You are angry and depressed. Admit it. Since you are a Ukraine supporter I would be angry too. It is a big loss.

 

[F-22Raptor]

You keep claiming that Russian offensive capacity has been destroyed for more than a year now. Russian economy was supposed to be finished too. Yet all I can see is Russia fighting and winning more territory. Your claims don't add up.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653169427691585541

Yes their offensive capacity has been destroyed.

Russian economy shrank 1.9% in first quarter, statistics service says

Russia's economy shrank 1.9% year-on-year in the first quarter of 2023, data from the Rosstat federal statistics service showed on Wednesday, following growth of 3% in the same period of last year.

www.reuters.com

The Russian economy shrank 2% in Q1

 

[Dalit]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653169427691585541

Yes their offensive capacity has been destroyed.

Russian economy shrank 1.9% in first quarter, statistics service says

Russia's economy shrank 1.9% year-on-year in the first quarter of 2023, data from the Rosstat federal statistics service showed on Wednesday, following growth of 3% in the same period of last year.

www.reuters.com

The Russian economy shrank 2% in Q1

LOL War Mapper

Explain something to me. If on the 2nd of May Russian offensive capacity was already non-existent, how did Russia claim Bakhmut on the 20th of May?

You know that Russian oil/gas embargo has also impacted Western and world economies, right?

 

[Foinikas]

I wonder if they ran out of gas in the process.

You know they were supposed to use the Challenger 2 and the AMX-10RC and the Leopard 2 and the Abrams and everything. And Zelensky was like "We'll start our counterattack,we'll do this,we'll do that,we'll kick them out,we'll take Crimea".

Lol it's like...they kept trying to keep Bakhmut for what? And the Russians kept trying to get it for what? Just to piss each other off.

Fake news? Do I look like the media to you?

As for fake news, Russia winning Bakhmut is also fake news LOL You are angry and depressed. Admit it. Since you are a Ukraine supporter I would be angry too. It is a big loss.

There's the fake news: You just implied that I denied Russia taking Bakhmut. I didn't even say anything like that.

Are you retarded?

And you continue calling me a "Ukraine supporter". You're spreading lies about me. You haven't even followed my "fights" with @Vergennes @A.P. Richelieu @gambit @jhungary on the matter and you keep calling me a "Ukraine supporter".

What a donkey. Piss off.

 

[Dalit]

You know they were supposed to use the Challenger 2 and the AMX-10RC and the Leopard 2 and the Abrams and everything. And Zelensky was like "We'll start our counterattack,we'll do this,we'll do that,we'll kick them out,we'll take Crimea".

Lol it's like...they kept trying to keep Bakhmut for what? And the Russians kept trying to get it for what? Just to piss each other off.

This is not how a neutral speaks. A neutral is supposed to say that Russia won Bakhmut at the end of the day. That is an undeniable fact.

 

[Foinikas]

This is not how a neutral speaks.

Oh now you don't like it? If I talk trash about Russians I'm a "Ukraine supporter",if I laugh about the Ukrainians I'm "not neutral".

You're just here to flamebait. Nothing else.

 

[Dalit]

Oh now you don't like it? If I talk trash about Russians I'm a "Ukraine supporter",if I laugh about the Ukrainians I'm "not neutral".

You're just here to flamebait. Nothing else.

You are cunning. I will give you that, but I have figured you out a long while ago.

No matter what you say, the facts speak for themselves. Russia is in the driving seat.

Now let's see how American F-16s beat Russia back to the stone age.

You know they were supposed to use the Challenger 2 and the AMX-10RC and the Leopard 2 and the Abrams and everything. And Zelensky was like "We'll start our counterattack,we'll do this,we'll do that,we'll kick them out,we'll take Crimea".

Lol it's like...they kept trying to keep Bakhmut for what? And the Russians kept trying to get it for what? Just to piss each other off.


There's the fake news: You just implied that I denied Russia taking Bakhmut. I didn't even say anything like that.

Are you retarded?

And you continue calling me a "Ukraine supporter". You're spreading lies about me. You haven't even followed my "fights" with @Vergennes @A.P. Richelieu @gambit @jhungary on the matter and you keep calling me a "Ukraine supporter".

What a donkey. Piss off.

Why do you keep tagging your friends? Do you need their help? Can't you debate me alone? Why don't you tag a mod too. Goes behind my back to report me. Backstabber.

The only donkey here is you. Bakhmut in Russian hands LOL Now remind me how the majority of Dutch are pro-Ukraine...

 

[Foinikas]

You are cunning. I will give you that, but I have figured you out a long while ago.

No matter what you say, the facts speak for themselves. Russia is in the driving seat.

I'm cunning? I'm being honest here.

I'm saying things as I see them. And you're a troll.

No matter what you say, the facts speak for themselves. Russia is in the driving seat.

Now let's see how American F-16s beat Russia back to the stone age.

The driving seat? Do you know that even Russian commanders are angry about how the government handles the war?

If Russia was in the driving seat,then it would have already had all of Eastern and Southeastern Ukraine by now.

What is happening is a war of atrition between two brother nations and the only ones who gain from this are the freemasons.

You should be worried about this escalating into a nuclear war.

Why do you keep tagging your friends? Do you need their help? Can't you debate me alone?

I'm tagging them so that they can confirm what I said. I was going against them for months and they were calling me "biased" and "pro-Russian".

Why don't you tag a mod too. Goes behind my back to report me. Backstabber.

Why should I tag a mod? Legend is here,he sees what's going on.

What do you mean "backstabber"? We're not friends. When you act like a troll and flamebait me,I simply report you. End of the story.

Then only donkey here is you. Bakhmut in Russian hands LOL

And? What does that mean for you? As a Dutchman?