BREAKING | ARTSAKH IS HISTORY / Azerbaijan won!! 🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿

[Dalit]

Well I didn't expect it to survive under Azeri rule. I think the Azeris will continue and try to grab more land from Armenia. The corridor and parts of Eastern-central Armenia.


Where the heck did you hear that? Stop spreading misinformation.

Well, India is there to help Armenia. All should be fine.

 

[Foinikas]

Well, India is there to help Armenia. All should be fine.

India doesn't help its own citizens...lol

 

[Kejo]

W

India doesn't help its own citizens...lol

You are a very religious User who's a proud Orthodox Christian.

Tell me, why are Orthodox Christians always losing in contemporary conflict theatres?

Karabağ, Cyprus, Kosova, Ukraine etc.

How come?

 

[Foinikas]

W

You are a very religious User who's a proud Orthodox Christian.

Tell me, why are Orthodox Christians always losing in contemporary conflict theatres?

Karabağ, Cyprus, Kosova, Ukraine etc.

How come?

1.Cyprus 1974,the Greek Cypriots just had a coup and almost civil war between them. The Turks invaded with a much bigger force and more modern equipment than Greek Cypriots and ELDYK had on the island. For example,the Cypriot National Guard only had 32 or so T-34-85 tanks most of which broke down because of technical problems. They had weapons like the Lee-Enfield,Sten,Bren,MP-40,some Vz.58 and FN FAL. The Turks had G3 rifles and Thompson submachine guns,M47 and M48 tanks and M113 APCs. The Greek Cypriots only had a few torpedo boats and no Air Force. At the same time,the Ioannides junta in Athens wouldn't send reinforcements to save the island. The only reinforcements that arrived in Cyprus were commandos,in a badly planned operation that resulted in the loss of some of them and wounding 10 heavily.
The newly acquired F-4 Phantom were not used. A ship loaded with Greek soldiers and Cypriot volunteers as well as tanks was stopped at Rhodes and not allowed to continue to Cyprus. So in the end,bad equipment at a bad time,smaller army and no help from the motherland. Like in Armenia.
2.In Kosovo the Serbs were actually winning the war,but the Americans with various NATO countries intervened and gave the provice to Albanians. They forced the Yugoslav(Serbia and Montenegro)army and police to leave from most parts of the country. That's why there's a statue of Bill Clinton there.
3.Karabakh? You know what happened. Armenians supported Pashinyan in taking power,the Russians were angry that a pro-Western kicked the previous government and didn't stop the Azeris. They also pressured Pashinyan into giving more lands to them even if they hadn't conquered them.
4.Ukraine? Both Russians and Ukrainians are Eastern Orthodox.


Now tell me,you're pious Muslim,aren't you? Why aren't Palestinians winning all these years? Why did Pakistan lose in 1971 and during the Kargil War? Why did Iraq lose two wars? Why did Azeris lose the First Nagorno-Karabakh War? Why did Libya lose?

 

[dBSPL]

All the way back in 2020, we said that the period of decline since the 1800s was over. Anyone who has difficulty in understanding will learn this through bitter experience.



12 years ago Armenian president said, "We took Karabakh, Mount Ağrı (Turkiye's east lands) is the task of the next generation."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1707422252399018109

12 years later Armenian president, "Karabakh is an integral part of Azerbaijan and we have nothing to do with illegal activities there. We do not covet any of our neighbors' lands."

 

[mehmed bey]

Armenians like Asyrians aren't Ortodox, they are monophysites.
Armenians of Byzantium had welcomed Seljuks conquest with the lengthy celebrations in the streets with Thanksgiving to God for having rescued them from years of Byzantine tyranny.... Turks gave the protection to the Church which was persecuted for a long time....abolished heavy taxes on Armenian Church. In fact exempted all religious institutions from the tax... Armenian community was left to conduct its affairs on their own..... There was never time when Armenians or other Non Muslim were compelled to embrace Islam...
Stephanos Tarinetsi Asokgih , Armenian Historian, from his book Universal History.
Religious communities had long become Revolutionary heart of Armenian Revolutionary Parties and the most diabolical plans were drawn up there. Religious places became warhorse of arms and hearts of plots. Religious people were exhorting people to rise up against the state with their speeches and writtings ,people that trusted them. They didn't preach the teaching of Gospels anymore or utter Noble words in their Seremons . Rebellion replaced loyalty and righteousness in their Seremons. Revenge and hatred had taken the place of humanity.. Meanness and ignominy were preached in the holy places. Religious leaders presided over the festivities, meetings and ceremonies , organised by the Revolutionaries
Gevand Turyan, Armenian Bishop and Ottoman citizen " A Qui La Faute" Aux Paris Revue Armennien ( Publication de la Revue Dadiar) Cinstantinopole 1917 pp 40-41

 

[Foinikas]

All the way back in 2020, we said that the period of decline since the 1800s was over. Anyone who has difficulty in understanding will learn this through bitter experience.

Indeed,defeating a republic of 150,000 population with a small army and obsolete weapons,surely has proved the decline is over.

 

[dBSPL]

Indeed,defeating a republic of 150,000 population with a small army and obsolete weapons,surely has proved the decline is over.

When Armenia was founded, it was made up bunch of gangs and militias numbering around even lower than that, but it was backed militarily by Russia and politically by France. As the Ottoman state collapsed, the Armenian occupation of Trabzon was personally commanded by the Russian army. The Russian navy bombarded the Black Sea cities and Russian artillery entered Anatolia. Meanwhile, in France, large funds were raised for the Hunchak committee and France provided active political support. The circular of the Dashnak and Hunchak organizations openly expressed the ideal of a great Armenia on the territory of Iran and Turkiye. However, it did not take long for them to realize that they were nothing more than pawns of foreign powers in two disintegrating and embattled states. Ovannes Kajaznuni, the first Armenian prime minister, later put it even more dramatically, stating that the real massacres was committed by Armenians who were instruments of these imperial aims.

As if the Armenians had not learned any lessons from these bitter experiences, they again sat in the lap of the Russians on the Karabakh issue and outsourced their own ambitions to other foreign great powers that were in conflict with the interests of the nations they harbored enemies against (sound familiar?).

The result is again disappointing. Even 10 years ago, the Armenians would not have stood up for Azerbaijan in a head-to-head battle. However, the hardpower spoiled the game. At the end of the day, when they lose their protective shields, they face the bitter reality again.

 

[Foinikas]

When Armenia was founded, it was made up bunch of gangs and militias numbering around even lower than that, but it was backed militarily by Russia and politically by France. As the Ottoman state collapsed, the Armenian occupation of Trabzon was personally commanded by the Russian army. The Russian navy bombarded the Black Sea cities and Russian artillery entered Anatolia. Meanwhile, in France, large funds were raised for the Hunchak committee and France provided active political support. The circular of the Dashnak and Hunchak organizations openly expressed the ideal of a great Armenia on the territory of Iran and Turkiye. However, it did not take long for them to realize that they were nothing more than pawns of foreign powers in two disintegrating and embattled states. Ovannes Kajaznuni, the first Armenian prime minister, later put it even more dramatically, stating that the real massacres was committed by Armenians who were instruments of these imperial aims.

As if the Armenians had not learned any lessons from these bitter experiences, they again sat in the lap of the Russians on the Karabakh issue and outsourced their own ambitions to other foreign great powers that were in conflict with the interests of the nations they harbored enemies against (sound familiar?).

The result is again disappointing. Even 10 years ago, the Armenians would not have stood up for Azerbaijan in a head-to-head battle. However, the hardpower spoiled the game. At the end of the day, when they lose their protective shields, they face the bitter reality again.

Look me in the eyes without laughing and tell me "Yes,it was a great achievement to defeat Artsakh".

 

[Kejo]

1.Cyprus 1974,the Greek Cypriots just had a coup and almost civil war between them. The Turks invaded with a much bigger force and more modern equipment than Greek Cypriots and ELDYK had on the island. For example,the Cypriot National Guard only had 32 or so T-34-85 tanks most of which broke down because of technical problems. They had weapons like the Lee-Enfield,Sten,Bren,MP-40,some Vz.58 and FN FAL. The Turks had G3 rifles and Thompson submachine guns,M47 and M48 tanks and M113 APCs. The Greek Cypriots only had a few torpedo boats and no Air Force. At the same time,the Ioannides junta in Athens wouldn't send reinforcements to save the island. The only reinforcements that arrived in Cyprus were commandos,in a badly planned operation that resulted in the loss of some of them and wounding 10 heavily.
The newly acquired F-4 Phantom were not used. A ship loaded with Greek soldiers and Cypriot volunteers as well as tanks was stopped at Rhodes and not allowed to continue to Cyprus. So in the end,bad equipment at a bad time,smaller army and no help from the motherland. Like in Armenia.
2.In Kosovo the Serbs were actually winning the war,but the Americans with various NATO countries intervened and gave the provice to Albanians. They forced the Yugoslav(Serbia and Montenegro)army and police to leave from most parts of the country. That's why there's a statue of Bill Clinton there.
3.Karabakh? You know what happened. Armenians supported Pashinyan in taking power,the Russians were angry that a pro-Western kicked the previous government and didn't stop the Azeris. They also pressured Pashinyan into giving more lands to them even if they hadn't conquered them.
4.Ukraine? Both Russians and Ukrainians are Eastern Orthodox.


Now tell me,you're pious Muslim,aren't you? Why aren't Palestinians winning all these years? Why did Pakistan lose in 1971 and during the Kargil War? Why did Iraq lose two wars? Why did Azeris lose the First Nagorno-Karabakh War? Why did Libya lose?

I'm a secular Muslim. I'd rather provide answers to Greece' sociocultural backwardness and its effects on ideology and economy.

 

[mehmed bey]

Yes , it is great achievement in putting down evil rabbid dogs , not as great when Nuri Pasha with 6-7 thousands of souls battled Dashnak, Reds, even Cosacks and Brits , in the darkest hours of Turkish history. It is in line of many achievements in Northern Syra and Iraq , Lybia, Cyprus, Korea etc. . Even beating this motly crew is the great success, especially compared to you. The only thing which you achieved recently is that some of you took part in Srebrenica massacres. Not many, but hey ,achievement is achievement.

 

[Foinikas]

I'm a secular Muslim. I'd rather provide answers to Greece' sociocultural backwardness and its effects on ideology and economy.

We have sociocultural backwardness? Anyway.did I answer your question above?

The only thing which you achieved recently is that some of you took part in Srebrenica massacres.

Misinformed as always in your posts,I have to tell you that the GVG never took part in any atrocities in Bosnia. And when it comes to accusations by some(really,who are they?)of taking part in the Srebrenica "massacre",there is absolutely no evidence at all about it. Even the Serbs said Greeks just hoisted a flag or two after the battle.

As for your dumb comments concerning "evil rabid dogs",you wouldn't care to acknowledge Ottoman Turkish and Azeri crimes against Armenians,would you?

 

[dBSPL]

Look me in the eyes without laughing and tell me "Yes,it was a great achievement to defeat Artsakh".

Breaking the consensus, which included global powers, and not only ending the nearly 30-year occupation, but even destroying its remnants is a great achievement. You can belittle this as much as you want, even start a few threads on the forum and threaten Azerbaijan and indirectly Turkiye like some of our other friends. Although all this does not help you to see the changing geopolitics in the region, where the conjuncture is evolving...

By the way, let me emphasize again that my first message was not about this. What I meant in my post has a much broader scope.

 

[Foinikas]

Breaking the consensus, which included global powers, and not only ending the nearly 30-year occupation, but even destroying its remnants is a great achievement. You can belittle this as much as you want, even start a few threads on the forum and threaten Azerbaijan and indirectly Turkiye like some of our other friends. Although all this does not help you to see the changing geopolitics in the region, where the conjuncture is evolving...

By the way, let me emphasize again that my first message was not about this. What I meant in my post has a much broader scope.

Which global powers? You had no interference from neither Russia nor USA.

 

[kingQamaR]

Victory of Azerbaijan, no matter how weird it sounds, was best possible outcome for Armenia.
The ethnic conflict practically ended, and with it, ended time of Russian influence in region.
Finally Armenia would achieve peace, and Russia wouldn't be able to manipulate Armenian people by supporting pro russian-aggressive politics.
Now Armenia can fully focus on economy and social problems, instead of spending so much into this ethnic conflict.