BREAKING | ARTSAKH IS HISTORY / Azerbaijan won!! 🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿

[Dalit]

Why did Pakistan lose in 1971 and during the Kargil War?

You should ask the Pakistani army.

 

[FuturePAF]

ARM, I know you have been adding mirch masala to the forum so I thought I ask; Do you know India has been selling weapons to Armenia can you investigate what happened to them?

Would be good if Pakistan can acquire and study any Indian origin systems captured by the Azeris.

Victory of Azerbaijan, no matter how weird it sounds, was best possible outcome for Armenia.
The ethnic conflict practically ended, and with it, ended time of Russian influence in region.
Finally Armenia would achieve peace, and Russia wouldn't be able to manipulate Armenian people by supporting pro russian-aggressive politics.
Now Armenia can fully focus on economy and social problems, instead of spending so much into this ethnic conflict.

But will this open the door for Western forces to enter Armenia and have western forces on the border of both Iran and Russia, force those two nations to cut any movement of good over the Caspian?

 

[K_Bin_W]

Would be good if Pakistan can acquire and study any Indian origin systems captured by the Azeris.

Don't expect much except for foreign components assembled.

 

[kingQamaR]

Would be good if Pakistan can acquire and study any Indian origin systems captured by the Azeris.


But will this open the door for Western forces to enter Armenia and have western forces on the border of both Iran and Russia, force those two nations to cut any movement of good over the Caspian?

It seems like Russia completely lost power.

Very interesting geopolitics. Armenians have a pretty powerful lobby in the US, and have strong ties with Russia??? , and potentially Iran because of the large Azerbaijani population who Iran fears will want to join their Azerbaijani brethren in Azerbaijan. Armenians still have pretty cold relations with Turkey, who up until recently has been an US ally and who seems to be turning back towards the West after flirting with closer ties with Russia. This can go many different ways, and I'm not sure how it will all end.

 

[Foinikas]

You should ask the Pakistani army.

Military leadership issues or political incompetence?

 

[kingQamaR]

You should ask the Pakistani army.

You should ask him how did they loose Cyprus to Turkey

 

[Foinikas]

You should ask him how did they loose Cyprus to Turkey

"Loose"? You live in Britain ffs.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

I travelled around both countries few weeks ago and I loved them both. Wonderful, lovely, welcoming people on both sides.

Armenians are more cautious of their history but thats because they have been taking shit from everyone. Iranians, Russians, Ottomans and then Russians again and now Azeris/Turks. In the end its not about nationality or religion or ethnicity. Its only the game of powerful versus weak.

I wish the Armenians would stay in the area and integrate with Azeris but I am also sure they have their reasons for leaving.

I really wish and hope this is the end of conflict and there can finally be lasting peace.

 

[Trisolaran]

Look me in the eyes without laughing and tell me "Yes,it was a great achievement to defeat Artsakh".

Victory has won in 2020, Azerbaijan defead both Armenia+Nagorono Karabakh.. And now naturaly Azerbaijan clean rest of the Karabakh in 1 day operation..

 

[kingQamaR]

"Loose"? You live in Britain ffs.

Five years ago I couldn't even spell English

 

[Foinikas]

Victory has won in 2020, Azerbaijan defead both Armenia+Nagorono Karabakh.. And now naturaly Azerbaijan clean rest of the Karabakh in 1 day operation..

Well that was actually the victory. After that,they had little equipment or political will (with Pashinyan) to fight. I'm sure the Armenians would fight if they were allowed,but without the right weapons and support,they would have even more casualties. And after the war,Pashinyan didn't even try to approach the Russians to save what was left of NKR.

 

[FuturePAF]

Well that was actually the victory. After that,they had little equipment or political will (with Pashinyan) to fight. I'm sure the Armenians would fight if they were allowed,but without the right weapons and support,they would have even more casualties. And after the war,Pashinyan didn't even try to approach the Russians to save what was left of NKR.

How have the Armenian people not ditched Pashinyan yet?

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

1.Cyprus 1974,the Greek Cypriots just had a coup and almost civil war between them. The Turks invaded with a much bigger force and more modern equipment than Greek Cypriots and ELDYK had on the island. For example,the Cypriot National Guard only had 32 or so T-34-85 tanks most of which broke down because of technical problems. They had weapons like the Lee-Enfield,Sten,Bren,MP-40,some Vz.58 and FN FAL. The Turks had G3 rifles and Thompson submachine guns,M47 and M48 tanks and M113 APCs. The Greek Cypriots only had a few torpedo boats and no Air Force. At the same time,the Ioannides junta in Athens wouldn't send reinforcements to save the island. The only reinforcements that arrived in Cyprus were commandos,in a badly planned operation that resulted in the loss of some of them and wounding 10 heavily.
The newly acquired F-4 Phantom were not used. A ship loaded with Greek soldiers and Cypriot volunteers as well as tanks was stopped at Rhodes and not allowed to continue to Cyprus. So in the end,bad equipment at a bad time,smaller army and no help from the motherland. Like in Armenia.
2.In Kosovo the Serbs were actually winning the war,but the Americans with various NATO countries intervened and gave the provice to Albanians. They forced the Yugoslav(Serbia and Montenegro)army and police to leave from most parts of the country. That's why there's a statue of Bill Clinton there.
3.Karabakh? You know what happened. Armenians supported Pashinyan in taking power,the Russians were angry that a pro-Western kicked the previous government and didn't stop the Azeris. They also pressured Pashinyan into giving more lands to them even if they hadn't conquered them.
4.Ukraine? Both Russians and Ukrainians are Eastern Orthodox.


Now tell me,you're pious Muslim,aren't you? Why aren't Palestinians winning all these years? Why did Pakistan lose in 1971 and during the Kargil War? Why did Iraq lose two wars? Why did Azeris lose the First Nagorno-Karabakh War? Why did Libya lose?

Whatever weapons and equipment you have do you really believe you could defeat Turks in war?

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

How have the Armenian people not ditched Pashinyan yet?

Without pashinyan they will lose more

 

[Foinikas]

How have the Armenian people not ditched Pashinyan yet?

He has a hardcore fanbase. There was a screenshot from a video,but I can't find it. Maybe I deleted it or it's somewhere in some folder. Two women who supported Pashinyan were asked about him and one of them said "Even if the Turks come here and kill me,I'll still support Nikol".

After he "won" the elections after the war,he started passing laws about "insulting the President",started arresting politicians,journalists,some people who demonstrated against him and sacked some pro-Russian officers from the Army.