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Both Hal rudra and light combat helicopters are toothless says Indian Army chief Rawat

LOL who in their right mind would buy a TATA motors(lol) made jaguar over a german made car. as they are prices similarly

Jag isn't selling many cars in the UK, this year they bought out the piece of shit 4x4. it looks like it belongs on roads in bombay the heap of shit
 
lol about TATA in UK hahahaha
people here in the UK are pissed about the quality of jags since TATA bought it, secondly ur big and rich TATA was closing its steel plants in wales until the poor UK government had to bail it out.

shit cars
shit country
and you are a shit poster. Also what the F are you doing on a pakistan defence forum you sad sad sad man. you are an indian on a pakistani defence forum, you really need to get a life sado.
desperation :rofl:
Well problems in UK were sorted out with trade union already.The problem arouse cause of internal conflict between board of directors..Now problem is gone.
Now more investments are coming by request of their govt..
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...vestment-plan-for-uk/articleshow/55860768.cms

LOL who in their right mind would buy a TATA motors(lol) made jaguar over a german made car. as they are prices similarly

Jag isn't selling many cars in the UK, this year they bought out the piece of shit 4x4. it looks like it belongs on roads in bombay the heap of shit
Well Jaguar F Type is the 3rd most selling super car of 2016..:lol:
You might be talking about Pakistan..

it looks like it belongs on roads in bombay the heap of shit
Aren't you getting tired of this potty mouth?:lol:
 
Both Hal rudra and light combat helicopters are toothless says Indian Army chief Rawat

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Indian army chief General Bipin Rawat speaking to media has lambasted that both Indigenous Attack/combat helicopters HAL Rudra and HAL Light Combat Helicopter have major shortcomings, that is in their current configuration both do not have suitable anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), which is the main weapon of any Attack/combat helicopters around the world.

Rawat said that Air version of indigenously developed Helina based on NAG ATGM developed by Countries DRDO is not likely to be ready in near future leaving a critical void in operational capability of this two helicopters. As an Interim measure, Indian Army had asked Government of India to procure ATGM from International vendor for which three years ago trials were conducted and contenders were PARS 3 from MBDA and Spike from Israel but the government is yet to clear the deal. Indian Army has placed orders for 60 Rudra ALH Mk-IV helicopters and at Aero India 2013 first two units were handed over Army.

Pre-production of LCH (Light Combat Helicopter) is set to begin from 2018 onwards and again Indian Army has placed a requirement of 114 LCH which might be inducted again without ATGM. Rudra ALH Mk-IV helicopters currently come with French Nexter THL-20 chin mounted gun turret housing a 20 mm M621 cannon and Belgian 70 mm rockets. Rudra was also to be equipped with air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, such as the anti-tank Helina missiles but delays have limited their operational capabilities.

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What he is saying now , I said this many years ago. Calling them combat ready is literally a joke. May be good against 303 wielding soldiers.
 
Ecuador’s Termination Of Contract With HAL Over Dhruv Crashes May Hit ‘Make In India’
Manas Sen Gupta
4:46 PM 17 OCT, 2015
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In a serious blow to both India’s ambitious ‘Make in India’ project and the country’s desire to export of military hardware, Ecuador grounded its entire fleet of HAL-made Dhruv helicopters after losing four of the seven choppers it bought from India.

Worse is that the country has terminated its contract with HAL.

Ecuadorian Air Force had bought the Dhruv helicopters from HAL in 2009 under a deal estimated to cost about USD 45 million.
That very year, Ecuador lost two of the helicopters. Those two crashes were blamed on pilot error. One of them was assigned to transport the President of the country when it went down, though he was not on board.

But in January, EAF lost two more Dhruvs in crashes in a span of 14 days. Mechanical failure was held responsible behind these accidents.
“Three aircraft have had their operations restricted because they are undergoing a complete check,” Security Minister Cesar Navas was quoted as saying by El Universo newspaper after the last accident on January 27. The last crash happened while an HAL team was in the country to inspect the third crash of January 13.

Now the government in the South American country unilaterally terminated blaming HAL for not ensuring timely supply of spares.

The TOI reports that HAL holds EAF “principally responsible” for maintaining the helicopters after the first two years. They claimed that spares had been shipped on time.

Though the Indian Armed Forces use Dhruv extensively and have flown a total of around 1,50,000 hours, crashes have happened here at home, too.
At times, entire fleet had to be grounded following crashes due to technical snags, including being found unsuitable for multi-role requirements due to excess weight and limited engine power.

At least one Dhruv has crashed in India every year since 2010. The last crash happened in February this year in J&K which killed two crew members from the Indian Army.
HAL Dhruv is India’s sole Utility Helicopter. It plays a more important role in the aviation arm of the Indian Army compared to the other two services.
The primary choppers in use by the Indian Navy are Kamovs and those in Indian Air Force are Soviet-era Mils.

Based on the HAL Dhruv platform, the state-owned aircraft maker is making the attack helicopter version called Rudra.

But HAL is notorious for delay in manufacturing aircraft, which often leads to scrapping of entire projects.

The development of Dhruv was announced in 1984, but it took 18 years for it to enter service.

The most disappointing progress – the one that threatens the ‘Make in India’ project – is with HAL Tejas. This Light Combat Aircraft was announced and approved in 1983. It has been 32 years, but HAL has been able to deliver only one Tejas to the IAF.
This indigenously manufactured fighter is expected to replace the ageing (almost grandfather like) MiG 21s. As of now, the lone Tejas too is yet to get operational clearance, which will allow it to enter combat roles.
HAL is planning to make a Tejas Mark-II version of the fighter, which will have more advanced weaponry and equipment.

But due to the immense delay in manufacturing of even the basic variant of the fighter, HAL asked the IAF to make do with Tejas Mark 1A, an improved version of the Tejas.

Delays in manufacturing of indigenous fighters and the government forcing the the air force to not purchase foreign-made fighters will take a severe toll on the IAF which is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China.
How we keep mentioning the issue with Equador, but totally forget that Dhruv is doing great in large numbers in India. You are not looking for the truth but what suits you. DHRUV is a success period.
 
one thing thats very clearly obvious in 2017 indian army is not ready for a two front was against China and Pakistan. without the help of USA, India will go down like a pack of cards if china and pakistan attack.

shit helicopters and fighters that are constantly grounded.
main battle tank needs upgrading
soldiers moral down
corruption at the highest level of military including when purchasing equipment and selling army rations lol
future submarine designs get leaked in Australia
soldiers deserting posts and walking into enemy countries because they are pissed at their seniors is the ultimate embarrassment

all in all you have a army here not ready for war


yawn

shit cars, shit fighters and now shit helicopters

make in india my a**
Not as shifty as Pakistani tanks jets and ships.
 
Source it.

Seriously, don't shoot when you have no clue. I am yet to see NAMICA in numbers ... let alone HELINA.
Yo, you are back.
What are Indian plans related to Nag & Namica?
And to what extent these plans are likely to full fill ?
 
LCH did great on last weapon trial.td3 td4 both..ATGMs are being integrated...When production variant comes out late 2017 or early 2018 all will be well..
General said cause his love for foreign maal.He needs more Apache..

Yes of course you know more than your army chief so I trust you. Another toothless Indian

Not as shifty as Pakistani tanks jets and ships.
But our tanks jets and ships all work. We are even selling them abroad. How many Tejas or arjunk or the toothless helicopter have you sold......Oh I stand corrected you sold some helicopters to a south American country and they have grounded them all as they kept falling out of the sky. DRDO is the best friend pakistan has
 
LOL who in their right mind would buy a TATA motors(lol) made jaguar over a german made car. as they are prices similarly

Jag isn't selling many cars in the UK, this year they bought out the piece of shit 4x4. it looks like it belongs on roads in bombay the heap of shit
A slumdog from Rotherham talking about Jaguar!Not your cup of tea my friend.
Still just to ease your misery- read the below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/01/08/record-sales-jaguar-land-rover/

It actually says the 4X4 is in high demand and they sell a car every minute. If you need more data- just ping me and for comprehension issues - use google translate.
 
Yes of course you know more than your army chief so I trust you. Another toothless Indian


But our tanks jets and ships all work. We are even selling them abroad. How many Tejas or arjunk or the toothless helicopter have you sold......Oh I stand corrected you sold some helicopters to a south American country and they have grounded them all as they kept falling out of the sky. DRDO is the best friend pakistan has
What is our?All are Chinese..
There is no proud in saying foreign things work..
 
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Both Hal rudra and light combat helicopters are toothless says Indian Army chief Rawat

E0SidzW.jpg

Indian army chief General Bipin Rawat speaking to media has lambasted that both Indigenous Attack/combat helicopters HAL Rudra and HAL Light Combat Helicopter have major shortcomings, that is in their current configuration both do not have suitable anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), which is the main weapon of any Attack/combat helicopters around the world.

Rawat said that Air version of indigenously developed Helina based on NAG ATGM developed by Countries DRDO is not likely to be ready in near future leaving a critical void in operational capability of this two helicopters. As an Interim measure, Indian Army had asked Government of India to procure ATGM from International vendor for which three years ago trials were conducted and contenders were PARS 3 from MBDA and Spike from Israel but the government is yet to clear the deal. Indian Army has placed orders for 60 Rudra ALH Mk-IV helicopters and at Aero India 2013 first two units were handed over Army.

Pre-production of LCH (Light Combat Helicopter) is set to begin from 2018 onwards and again Indian Army has placed a requirement of 114 LCH which might be inducted again without ATGM. Rudra ALH Mk-IV helicopters currently come with French Nexter THL-20 chin mounted gun turret housing a 20 mm M621 cannon and Belgian 70 mm rockets. Rudra was also to be equipped with air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, such as the anti-tank Helina missiles but delays have limited their operational capabilities.

Source
Totally ingenious. Made in India. But then again France and Belgium is India isn't it. Won't say anymore as it will confuse the ingenious Indians on here


Rudra ALH Mk-IV helicopters currently come with French Nexter THL-20 chin mounted gun turret housing a 20 mm M621 cannon and Belgian 70 mm rockets. Rudra was also to be equipped with air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, such as the anti-tank Helina missiles but delays have limited their operational capabilities.

What is our?All are Chinese..
There is no proud in saying foreign things work..
Yes of course and your MIGs are yours. Mirages are yours.aircraft carrier is local. Your Tejas is 100% Indian and even your helicopter have nothing French or Belgian in it and of course you army chief is talking Shit and you know more than him.
Fact....Your military doesn't want tejas. Doesn't want Arjunk
Doesn't want helicopter
They have more foreign parts than any other indigenous product in history yet when it comes to.operations more hole than Swiss cheese
 
Totally ingenious. Made in India. But then again France and Belgium is India isn't it. Won't say anymore as it will confuse the ingenious Indians on here


Rudra ALH Mk-IV helicopters currently come with French Nexter THL-20 chin mounted gun turret housing a 20 mm M621 cannon and Belgian 70 mm rockets. Rudra was also to be equipped with air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, such as the anti-tank Helina missiles but delays have limited their operational capabilities.
Same as Swedish jet or Chinese jets or most of the jets of non US & Russian origins are assembled by imported parts..
Tejas have around 70% indigenous content now which started from below 40% at a time...How much JF17 has?
Also for LCH & Rudra both are Indian designed & origin helis made by Indian alloys & spares.Rest of the imported part will also be indigenized sooner or later like done with Tejas..
Helina is Heli version of Nag..Nag has been successfully tested.Helina will be too soon..For stopgap we are importing ATGMs..
NAMICA(No info)
Rather than putting finger on others question yourself once..
Pakistan
JF17 is basically Chinese FC1(All are Russian & Chinese components)
Al Khalid is basically MBT 2000
Helis are all imported
Navy is fully imported

What is Pakistan's contribution before calling us imported?
 
desperation :rofl:
Well problems in UK were sorted out with trade union already.The problem arouse cause of internal conflict between board of directors..Now problem is gone.
Now more investments are coming by request of their govt..
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...vestment-plan-for-uk/articleshow/55860768.cms


Well Jaguar F Type is the 3rd most selling super car of 2016..:lol:
You might be talking about Pakistan..


Aren't you getting tired of this potty mouth?:lol:

stop lying hindu i have just searched for your claims and F type was no where near the top selling cars.

lol you have to be an idiot to think a sports car would be the 3rd highest selling car in the UK or the world wherever you are going on about. all the top selling cars are cheap priced cars like hatchbacks.

lying indian

can't deny the fact TATA makes shit cars

A slumdog from Rotherham talking about Jaguar!Not your cup of tea my friend.
Still just to ease your misery- read the below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/01/08/record-sales-jaguar-land-rover/

It actually says the 4X4 is in high demand and they sell a car every minute. If you need more data- just ping me and for comprehension issues - use google translate.
you are an imbecile, i have got a better understanding of the english language then you could ever have.
 
Same as Swedish jet or Chinese jets or most of the jets of non US & Russian origins are assembled by imported parts..
Tejas have around 70% indigenous content now which started from below 40% at a time...How much JF17 has?
Also for LCH & Rudra both are Indian designed & origin helis made by Indian alloys & spares.Rest of the imported part will also be indigenized sooner or later like done with Tejas..
Helina is Heli version of Nag..Nag has been successfully tested.Helina will be too soon..For stopgap we are importing ATGMs..
NAMICA(No info)
Rather than putting finger on others question yourself once..
Pakistan
JF17 is basically Chinese FC1(All are Russian & Chinese components)
Al Khalid is basically MBT 2000
Helis are all imported
Navy is fully imported

What is Pakistan's contribution before calling us imported?
Everything is Indian.....
Even jf17 is thought of and designed in Delhi.
Indian chief of army talks Shit.
Only your know what you are talking about.

I am so happy that you are producing such amazing machine with total confidence of your military. Keep up the good work.

Pakistan's best defence is the advancement of Indian military industry:pakistan:
 

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