You didnt read what I had posted earlier. TL,DR; Indian independence was the culmination of various events and factors. No single man was responsible to affect the course of events overall, but the contributions of many at their specific times cannot be ruled out and hence they are all celebrated. Do you realize this?
He actually lost. He lost the political battle to lead congress. He was never a military graduate nor did he have the military acumen to lead men into battle. He did NOT form the INA. INA was formed in 1942 by the British Indian POWs captured by Japanese. Please do read up on history, instead of propaganda material.
And FYI, real power does not lie in the armed forces, it lies in the collective will of the people. Blindly worshiping what you personally perceive to be a hero is very detrimental to the overall well being of a nation. One should realize that.
So If I express my different opinion, I am a congressi sickular hack, but when you blindly support and hero worship a political figure or person, you are being fair and balanced? Now where do I recollect this attitude from?
Nope. The threat of 1857 FWI was to the East India Company which lost control of the Indian territories after the mutiny. The British crown took over. And the demand for Indian representation in the UK parliament and subsequent political upheaval leading to self governance made the British realize that India as a colony was a lost cause.
What caliber do you speak of? If Netaji had any caliber, he would have stuck around and fought great political battles and won. IMHO, Jinnah had much more political acumen and caliber than Netaji could even dream of. Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Azad, Jinnah were of a different political breed and they collectively forced the British crown to concede many political privileges.
Royal Indian navy mutiny was not inspired by Netaji nor by the INA. These were the same troops which defeated the Japanese and INA forces in SE Asia. The main reason for mutiny was the deplorable conditions and food. Actually what started out as a strike morphed into a mutiny. Some historians want to give it a freedom movement flavor. Anywho, the sailors and officers who were involved or participated in this were kicked out of the forces and surprisingly were not reinstated even by forces in independent India nor Pakistan. Goes to show how dissent is not tolerated by the armed forces and the political power over armed forces in a democracy. So, again real power doesnt lie in the armed forces, it lies in the will of the people.
Pretty much wrong on all points, except the creation of the INA. That credit goes to Rashbehari Bose. Not in 1942. In 42, after the surrender of Singapore were the first soldiers recruited under Mohan Singh.
Bose was forced to relinquish his Leadership of the Congress, because he was not the kind to take diktats from Gandhi on how to raise the stakes.
Another big lie from the Nehruvian fanatics is that the forces were not reinstated in India and Pakistan. India did not (except rarely), but Pakistan did. In fact Habibur Rahman himself led the Lashkars into Kashmir in the 1948 war to establish Islamic Rule. It's has been a common part of our folklore there since then.
Bose was different and had no stomach for the cheap and communal politics at that time that allowed Indian 'freedom fighters' like Congress collaborating and creating and running Ministries of their own, while the nation was dragged to a second World War without our consent.
The influence of the INA on RIN Mutiny especially after the Red Fort Trials was something even the ring leaders did not deny. So your whitewashing and propaganda here to paint your fake 'leaders' as the harbingers of Indian freedom does not hold. Plus, the INA Mutiny was not an isolated revolt. There were similar instances all over the country. What is interesting is that occasional mutinies broke out all the time and defection was frequent even before, albeit in very low numbers. After the Trials, the British officers were no longer seen as one of their own. You can lament that.
I get it, nice times it must have been for the likes of you. I don't hold it against you. Everything in this world is relative. So, did Nehru have a hand in the murder/execution of Bose? What do you think?
Besides, all this is of academic importance. The papers should and will be released over time. I suspect a trickle. I can care less provided they do come out, eventually. We can then perhaps de-recognize the Congress party and arrest its most avid and criminal minds under the sedition laws. It should happen, and the way things are going, (including the bad habit of Truth to come out), it looks rather inevitable. I will suggest those die hard Nehru bhakts with good eloquence to prepare an epitaph for their benefit or at least the 'last words' before succumbing to the hangman's noose.
Of course, I don't necessarily mean anybody in particular. That would be very...unbecoming of me.
That would be underestimating the impact RIN's mutiny had on Britishers. Lets not forget that after RIN's mutiny Britishers had admitted that the Indian army, navy and air force units were no longer trustworthy, and for the army "only day to day estimates of steadiness could be made". The situation had thus been deemed the "Point of No Return".
And yes, I knew about Royal Indian airforce's revolt of 1946.
He is not ignorant. And not lying. It's called peddling of half truths. Very convenient and effective especially to the untrained audience. If you have done your research on your own and not willing to take the story hook line and sinker, punching holes in it is rather easy.
Well atleast Netaji didnot make a blunder like Quit India, which ended up disturbing the entire country. With lack of co-ordination among the leaders, no support from other political parties, improper planning the movement was bound to fail. Add to it that the majority of the Congress leaders were put behind the bars before the movement.
Ofcourse!
Britishers had realised that India had become ungovernable.
At this point I would also like to mention the Royal Navy of India's mutiny of 1946 and its contribution. That was another major event that brought an end to britisher's rule.
In a real country with a spine, Gandhi and Nehru would have had to answer for their lack of support to the real Independence Movement. The Bengalis may have become rather spineless* today, but they were the real and first revolutionaries in India. The pioneers, the first to light the spark. Without their newspapers, their op-eds, their street fighters, their songs, their poets, their associates, their first movements, their social reform, their thinking, their religious movements, their national consciousness - nothing would have happened. Gandhi was close to what Hume(who established Congress) had in mind for the people of India - 'a pressure valve'. No more, no less.
@scorpionx Pls tag the other bongs dada.
* Now its the opposite with them - lot of words, no action. Including Bengal BJP. Just like us.
Just look at the racially motivated stupid, blatant bong nationalism being displayed above. Throw into the mix the Kannada nationalism, Telgu nationalism, the Tamil nationalism, the Maratha nationalism, the Pathans, the Punjabis, the Gujjus, Kashmiris, north east states etc and the recipe was ripe for a clusterfvck, more complex and intertwined than the crises in the middle east.
Utterly baseless statement. First, I am not bengali - your assumption based on the username chosen by me is wrong. Plus, your conclusions ('blatant bong nationalism') is to put bluntly - disgusting and utterly racist. This is especially hypocritical from your POV considering NONE of the bengali INDIAN nationalists and revolutionaries except Sarat Bose and Suhravardy wanted anything to do with a separate identity. The poems, the plays, the stories, the works of art were absolutely national and completely devoid of any ethnic bias. Tagore wrote about the country, Bose led the Azad Hind Fauj, Surya Sen fought and died for freedom of India. Not freedom of Bengal.
I suspect that yours is a case not of ignorance but deliberate mischief, one that includes lies, half truths, and anthing that can be manipulated to present your chosen leaders with a halo.
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