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Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a year EconomicTimes

Sir, if you see my posted article it takes in account stats in India for last 3 years. 2013 was 10 ; 2014 was 6 ; 2015 - 5 sofar .


Its economic times. A respected business affairs paper with strategic reporting repertoire. Moreover its not an opinion based article or a blog. It is based on the released official figures.

Yes and its completely biased, its giving pakistani causalities, while hiding Indian death toll.
 
then your lok saba and defense minister are liars ?
In last three years alone, 50 Indian soldiers have died in Siachen. These causalities as per the information made available by Defense Minister in Lok Sabha

Source: Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a year indiatimes


Sir referring your source :

"50 soldiers were killed in the last three years up to July 20 in Siachen Glacier owing to landslides, floods and avalanches and climatic conditions, he said."

And the recent report from the posted article :

Official data released in parliament shows that Indian soldiers have died due to climatic conditions at an average of 10 a year. In recent years this number has almost come down to single digits, with 5 soldiers lost this year, six in 2014 and ten in 2013.
 
Then GOI shall disclose every covert and overt ops of military in kashmir as we are a democracy.

P.S - pakistan accuse us of cross border raids in LOC,even beheadings by indian army.

They can't be disclosed.. that's they they're called covert operations
 
and your point is becasuse its less then pakistani deaths so its ok ? for me this madness should over and troops should come down

You are probably right, but unfortunately pakistani army might not agree with you.
 
and your point is becasuse its less then pakistani deaths so its ok ? for me this madness should over and troops should come down


Agreed 100%. Loss of lives in both side completely avoidable. But I dont think its wise to ask India to give up on the area without authentication. Dont you think so? I mean I dont expect Pak army to secede from Azad Kashmir.

Yes and its completely biased, its giving pakistani causalities, while hiding Indian death toll.


No sir it posted both the side data only for death due to climatic condition. Not for avalanche or other effects. Please go through the article once more.
 
and your point is becasuse its less then pakistani deaths so its ok ? for me this madness should over and troops should come down
eezy Imran.. looks like evening came bit earlier than usual for you today.. han? :lol:

My post was to a specific question asked by a fellow member!
 
Agreed 100%. Loss of lives in both side completely avoidable. But I dont think its wise to ask India to give up on the area without authentication. Dont you think so? I mean I dont expect Pak army to secede from ***.




No sir it posted both the side data only for death due to climatic condition. Not for avalanche or other effects. Please go through the article once more.
there must be a UN deal and mark this shitty ICE as LOC and come down . there must be any grantee and must be others involved as we both failed to deal already
 
pakistan army already agree with me FYI its indian army whom stopped the deal go please research . sary link main hi doon ???????

Army said no to Gujral’s order to vacate Siachen


Army said no to Gujral’s order to vacate Siachen


Army will not leave the position without authentication .

Meanwhile I guess Pak Army and Pakistani scientific labs need to develop better equipment.
 
In a rare revelation, Pakistan has officially come out with details of the battle casualties it suffered in various operations from 2003-10. This include deployments on the Indian border as well as its fight against militants on the Afghan border. One figure that stands out in this period - which coincides with a ceasefire agreement that meant no firing on the border - is that the Pakistan Army has been suffering huge fatal casualties on the Siachen glacier, the highest battlefield in the world without a shot being fired.
Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a year on highest battlefield - The Economic Times
Despite a ceasefire that has seen no targeted firing since a 2003 agreement, the Pakistan Army has been losing an average of 30 soldiers a year on Siachen. The deaths are associated with the perils of deployment at high altitude - medical complications, avalanches, bad weather and more. With a total of 213 deaths recorded at Siachen between 2003-10, the glacier has been taking its toll. The average of 30 deaths a year does not include the 140 soldiers that Pakistan lost in a fatal avalanche that hit a military camp in April 2012.

On the other hand, Indian casualties on glacier have progressively decreased over the years and are currently in single digits. Official data released in parliament shows that Indian soldiers have died due to climatic conditions at an average of 10 a year. In recent years this number has almost come down to single digits, with 5 soldiers lost this year, six in 2014 and ten in 2013. This despite the fact that the Indian Army is manning higher posts and is deployed across the length and breadth of the glacier, unlike Pakistan that is restricted to the mountains surrounding the area. In both 2007 and 2008 for example, the Indian army suffered four fatal casualties. Correspondingly, the Pakistan Army lost 13 in 2008 and 12 in 2007 in the Siachen region.

The difference in casualties between the two nations is attributed by the Army on better equipment, resources, training and medical facilities on the Indian side. Indian Army officers who have served on the glacier say that a strictly followed acclimatization procedure, along with standard operating procedures that are implemented sternly have brought down casualties. The laying down of a kerosene line on the glacier, as well as the procurement of pre fabricated huts and better clothing has reduced deaths due to the bone chilling cold. Lt Gen Ata Hasnain (retd), says that one of the success stories of DRDO has been on high altitude research and the medicine and material they have put together for the glacier is saving lives.
Pakistan does not have any soldier on the Siachen. They have on the other side of the Saltoro Ridge. Entire Siachen glacier is in India's hands.
 
Pakistan does not have any soldier on the Siachen. They have on the other side of the Saltoro Ridge. Entire Siachen glacier is in India's hands.
Exactly, this has been noted in the article also

This despite the fact that the Indian Army is manning higher posts and is deployed across the length and breadth of the glacier, unlike Pakistan that is restricted to the mountains surrounding the area.
 

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