What's new

Blast outside POF

MartialLaw said:
I think we both want an end to this cycle of militancy and killing . . . its what the people of Pakistan want. I'm sure the militants don't want to be attacking their own side and the Pakistani military [the rank and file, at least] don't want to be doing Washington's "dirty work".

AgnosticMuslim said:
I find that plausible.

I'm not sure this is realistic; primarily because the radicalism emanating from Pakistan isn't merely an internal problem; it is one that is affecting the entire world. The US is well within its rights to coerce the Pakistani authorities to crack down on the problem; if they are incapable of doing so, then a western military intervention will be justified; and for some bizarre reason if the GoP actually decided to shelter the militants then it would only enforce the thought process behind threatening to bomb Pakistan to the stone age.
 
What is more shocking is the frequency at which the militants are able to make blasts at strategic locations.

I am happy that the Pak army has started to fight the terrorists. Peace deals are not longterm solutions. Fighting the terrorists may have implications like this, but in good for the long term security of Pakistan.

Let us togather wipe out terrorism from the region.

Also guys please do not suspect US's involvement in the region. They are also the casuelty of the same taliban. If they had not come, these terrorist basterdss would have been ruling afghanistan and creating havoc in the region.
 
if Zia hadnt lowered Pak army's standards to fill it in with madrassa graduates, this day wouldnt have come. Now we have a lame army half of who will not fight in FATA. and the FC is no use there.

time for a serious policy change in the Army and ISI. jihadi sympathizers must be quarantined and assigned desk jobs or something.
 
Fight to the death

Friday, August 22, 2008
The deaths of dozens of workers just outside Wah's main ammunitions factory in two suicide bombings is a grim reminder, if ever one was needed, for the government to get its act together to confronting the threat that extremism and militancy pose to the country's integrity and security. According to reports, two suicide bombers detonated their explosives a minute apart right outside the main gate of the factory complex – which is a sensitive military installation not far from the federal capital -- at a time when shifts were changing. This would have meant more heavy traffic of workers and thus the two attacks were designed to carry out maximum damage. The modus operandi and the gruesome manner in which ordinary civilians were targeted should remove any doubt as to the perpetrators of this most heinous act. In fact, the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan has quite unequivocally in recent days threatened to carry out suicide attacks all across the country in retaliation for the military's campaign against them in Bajaur Agency and Swat.

Thursday's bombing will lead to the inevitable call for a comprehensive security review of the area but more importantly they should make the citizens of this country realise that the war against extremist and militant forces is very much their own and not that of a foreign power. The fanatics seem to have left no stone unturned in their thirst for human blood and this was evident also in the dastardly attack at Dera Ismail Khan's main government hospital earlier this week. Those people who think that the Taliban and others like them are God-fearing Muslims who wouldn't do anything against Islamic precepts or that all that they want to create is an Islamic welfare state and are courageously fighting America need to open their eyes -- and this includes not just ordinary Pakistanis but also actors, if any, in the state's security and law-enforcement institutions who somehow mistakenly believe that tolerating such elements is somehow good for national security vis-à-vis Afghanistan and India. This is a fight very much to the death -- for our very way of life, to protect and preserve it from people whose 'qualities' include intolerance, bigotry, hatred and downright bestiality. The sooner this is realized -- by all Pakistanis, by the state and its various institutions and by the present government -- the better.

Fight to the death
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Well SO Much for the peace process & Dialogues.
There should be no crying over split milk.
I say i you wana end this do the following.

1.Seal the border with Afg.start Biometric System with is right now suspended due to crying of Afg Gov.

2.End Peace process with India, they are biggest responsible for this.

3.Hit a death blow to the Taliban that may take some civil lives but then some price has to be paid.

4.Stop playing this "He did it he will solve it" thing & think for Pakistan first.

MAY ALLAH GIVE US STRENGTH TO SEE WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONG.

May the souls of those who died in the blast rest in peace.


Regards
Champ
 
there has been a big bomb blast 60 + lost their lives ( may Allah bless their soul amin)) so many lost there son, father, brother ,husband bread earner for the family (may ALLAH grant them subr amin) they for sure in this cruel era of expense cant rest in peace our defense factory has been targeted and guess what our jamooriyati or better said MANHOOSIYATI leaderans are busy dong their own living room professional siyasi addabaazi
Pakistan ka sirf ALLAH hi HAFIZ ho sakte hain...

Crunch talks for Pakistan leaders
Senior politicians are due to meet in Pakistan to try to resolve disputes which threaten to break up the coalition government.

Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has said his party will pull out, unless judges sacked by ex-President Pervez Musharraf are immediately reinstated.

The other disagreement is over who should succeed Mr Musharraf, following his resignation on Monday.

The talks come a day after more than 60 people died in twin suicide attacks.

The party leaders failed to hammer out a deal when they met on Monday and Tuesday.

Most members of the biggest party in the coalition, the Pakistan People's Party (PPP), want to nominate as president Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of their late leader, Benazir Bhutto. She was assassinated in December last year.

'Consensus' president

But Mr Sharif, who leads the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), prefers what he calls a consensus president.

The coalition was elected in February but analysts say it has failed to find solutions to Pakistan's economic crisis and to the militants in its north-western tribal regions bordering Afghanistan.

The Pakistani Taleban claimed responsibility for Thursday's suicide bombings on an ordnance factory in the town of Wah, near the capital Islamabad. It was the deadliest attack on a military site in Pakistan's history.

The militant group promised more attacks in Pakistan's major urban conurbations unless the army withdrew from the tribal areas.

On Tuesday, 32 people were killed in a suicide attack on a hospital in the northern town of Dera Ismail Khan.

Mr Musharraf, a key ally of President Bush's "war on terror", stepped down this week after nine years in power to avoid being impeached.

He sacked about 60 supreme court judges during a state of emergency in November to prevent them from overturning his re-election as president.

Analysts say that although the PPP and PML-N worked together to hound Mr Musharraf from office, there is a history of intense rivalry and mistrust between the two main parties.

The parties differ over the future of Mr Musharraf, who has been replaced by a caretaker president, the speaker of the Senate.

Mr Zardari's party has said it believes Mr Musharraf may have immunity from prosecution.

But Mr Sharif's party argues he should stand trial for, among other things, abrogating the constitution.


Story from BBC NEWS:
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Crunch talks for Pakistan leaders

Published: 2008/08/22 04:07:22 GMT

© BBC MMVIII
 
Last edited:
are you blaming INDIA for this??? what INDIA has to do with muslium extremists?
if you say INDIA is doing all this??? what ISI is doing in INDIA? recent blast are the insane activities of ISI.:taz:

Pakisthan has to be blamed for its tragedy. it has supported militancy and finally paying pice for it...
 
are you blaming INDIA for this??? what INDIA has to do with muslium extremists?
if you say INDIA is doing all this??? what ISI is doing in INDIA? recent blast are the insane activities of ISI.

Pakisthan has to be blamed for its tragedy. it has supported militancy and finally paying pice for it...

You got me wrong bro.

I was not blaming India bcoz you blame the person you have some doubts about & i have no doubt that India is Involved .... i am sure you get the picture.



Regards
Champ
 
I think so too brother but i dont think India is acting solely but infact is collaborating with Afghanistan, the CIA and most definately Mossad. Mossad, just like India has a vested interest in de-stabalizing pakistan because we are the only Islamic atomic power and if theres anyone Israel fears in the Islamic world then its Pakistan. And history is evident of this, as we all know what Pakistani pilots did during the 1967 war.
 
^^ You are not that important that everyone in the world would be after you to de-stabalize you. Infact we in india sincerely hope that terrorism in your country gets resolved soon so that the rest of the world can live peacefully as well.
 
Oh but if WE aint that important then what were people like Balbir and Kashmir Singh doing in Pakistan? Your in denial my friend;

AFP: Indian former spies come in from cold to seek compensation
Jun 12, 2008

MAHAL, India (AFP) — Balbir Singh says he thought he was serving India and would be hailed as a hero when he became a spy.

But now he's fighting in the Indian courts to make legal history and win compensation for 10 years spent in a Pakistani jail after being caught and convicted.

Singh is among several dozen former "secret agents" or informers who have launched similar court cases against the Indian government demanding payouts ranging from 500,000 to 800,000 rupees (12,500 to 20,000 dollars).

"I'd have been happy to die in a Pakistan jail. At least I'd have died a martyr," said Singh, 58, the father of two teenagers.

Around 100 former "spies" live in three districts of northern Punjab state bordering Pakistan, according to rights activists.

It is impossible to know how many spies are recruited every year as India officially denies spying on its nuclear-armed neighbour with which it has fought three wars.

But their hopes for recognition and compensation have been spurred in recent months after two cases involving Indian prisoners in Pakistani jails put the spotlight on former secret agents.

In March, Indian prisoner Kashmir Singh, who spent 35 years on death row in Pakistan after being convicted of espionage, was pardoned and returned home to northern Punjab state to a hero's welcome -- and confirmed he had been a spy.

Last month, the hanging of another prisoner, Sarabjit Singh, over a 1990 bombing in Lahore that killed four people was postponed indefinitely. Singh's family denies his role in the bombing and says he was not a spy.

"Spying is an endless game. It goes on uninterrupted, even when the situation is normal," said Maloy Krishna Dhar, a former joint director of India's Intelligence Bureau.

"The 25-mile (15-kilometre) area from the border is always a strategic concern for armed forces for which shallow penetration agents are needed," he said.

"Shallow penetration agents" are hired to find out details about military movements as well as the construction of dams, bunkers and canals along the border, and similar plans that cannot be determined with the use of satellites.

The men in Punjab's border areas are hired through word of mouth. Some, such as Balbir Singh, seek out intelligence officials to get hired, lawyers say.

"Many of them are nationalistic and highly motivated," said lawyer Ranjan Lahkhanpal, who is representing Balbir Singh.

Other former spies are in the process of launching cases.

One is Mohinder Singh, 61, whose bitterness is evident in his face, which contorts with anger as he talks about his days in a Pakistani jail.

"There it was just confinement, but what we face here is injustice," said the rickshaw puller, sentenced to seven years in jail in Pakistan for illegally crossing the border after escorting Indian spies.

"Two years of my sentence were dropped, but I spent 10 extra years in jail because the Indian government did not approve my repatriation," he said.

Mohinder Singh, who returned in 1986, is relying on the testimony of other spies whom he escorted across the border.

Balbir Singh says he has documents from Pakistani jail authorities proving he was incarcerated, and shows a letter from an official of India's intelligence agency saying he was hired to spy.

The authenticity of the documents and his claims could not be officially verified.

"No one can ever identify who recruited them. The burden of proof rests on the spy to show he was recruited," said ex-intelligence official Dhar.

Balbir Singh now works as a security guard, earning 2,500 rupees (about 60 dollars) a month. He was among dozens of people who went to greet former prisoner Kashmir Singh when he crossed into India.

The two men were hired for the same mission and arrested together as they travelled by bus in Pakistan, where they had been sent to bribe a military clerk and obtain a classified document, according to Balbir Singh.

While Kashmir got a death sentence, Balbir was sentenced to 10 years in prison and was freed in 1986.

"The Pakistan clerk confessed and we were caught. I was given an electric shock on my genitals in jail," Balbir Singh said at his home in Mahal village.

Despite India's refusal to admit that it spies on Pakistan, lawyers for the alleged ex-spies say they're hopeful of getting compensation thanks to the media attention they have received since Kashmir Singh's release.

"Even though there's no proof here, many people have orders from Pakistan courts that they were held under the Official Secrets Act," said lawyer Lakhanpal, who is representing 35 former spies in the Punjab High court.

"The courts cannot turn down this proof," he said.
 
if Zia hadnt lowered Pak army's standards to fill it in with madrassa graduates, this day wouldnt have come. Now we have a lame army half of who will not fight in FATA. and the FC is no use there.

time for a serious policy change in the Army and ISI. jihadi sympathizers must be quarantined and assigned desk jobs or something.

The FC has been there since the British and they have been neglected from the very start. I dont think Zia is responsible for that.
 
They are not Mossad agents and you can always expect neighboring country's agents in your country, nothing new. What would India gain out of destabalizing pakistan?? Nukes in the hands of terrorists is the worst case scenario for us in India and for Afganistan as well. We want a peaceful and prosperous pak. It is as simple as that. The problem lies within. The notion of muslims cannot kill muslims is completely wrong.
 
Back
Top Bottom