Blast in Westridge, Rawalpindi

[Xeric]

This is no speculation this is clear army has spooks inside who are sold cheap and giving away targets ! how does these attackers get in GHQ than this mosque , its obvious they knew & have the full intel about security inside both premises! Bigger question is who are these rats and why are they doing this? and how could PA crush em?

Also Boss if they are getting helped by foreignors than they are more dangerous than TTP ,Raw ,Mosad or may b the Mars Intl agency

i think you need to visit GHQ.

Anyone would know that because of the population surge and development there isnt any demarcation between the military and civilian zones, that is one.

Two, attackers didnt get inside the GHQ, they were wasted near the first check post of GHQ.

Three, anyone with normal brains could have planned the attack as i mentioned earlier the civilian traffic both vehicular and foot passes very very near the GHQ/checkposts as the main roads are just adjacent to the GHQ. The difficult part comes when these attacks needs to be coordinated and executed, that needs training and time.

So, it is NOT necessary that there has to be a mole inside PA as the same info was also available outside the military!

 

[Xeric]

TK:

Okay - it seems that there are lots of ex-military personnel and officers who have joined the ranks of the takfiri TTP thugs. I recall an Amir Mir report indicating that there were several ex-military officers sitting on the TNSM 'shura' while Fazllulah was ruling the roost.

I have one question:

When have these soldiers and army officers, historically speaking, begun to 'strongly' sympathize with the extremists? Is it usually a few months after they leave service, is it the very next day, or is it while they are still serving?

When did these officers or soldiers decide that they'd much rather help the Salafi TTP thugs terrorise the people?

I'm sure the military must have investigated past particular instances of this reverse-indoctrination dynamic. Any insights??

i think you didnt understand the farsi that i uttered earlier!

Point 6 million military and not more than 50 RETIRED personnel joined (read assisted) the terrorists and it makes you jump like a frog!

Buddy you cant even imagine the way our military (to include all the services) sanitize itself of f!lth.

Black sheep are just everywhere.

We had seen the same thing in the US military, the indian military etc and our military is no excuse, but you should be thankful, a country where chances of getting brainwashed are quite high (to include but not limited to social pressures) we still are able to maintain a favorable percentage of our men away from darkness.

Now as for your rants, buddy, i'll suggest you give me some more logical statements and i may look into it, untill then i am going to bust them as usual!

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Not many people know the story about Huzaima Amin --- 17 year old boy who basically saved Vice COAS (retd.) Youssuf by pushing him away from the shooters prior to when they threw grenades.

He is the son of a Brig. who, Alhamdolillah, was lucky not to suffer same fate as the less fortunate ones.

I do get SOME comfort knowing that those who were killed at least they didnt die in vain during middle of Juma Namaz. I feel in some way that could be direct flight to jannat, which is a much better and more peaceful place.

 

[BlackPanther]

It is really a much said incidence for All Pakistani nation; I am a Health scientist pursuing my PhD in Malaysia. These days I am writing my thesis and usually work 15 to 18 hrs but since I have listened about this incidence, I am unable to even think a single word. It is really a great loss to Pakistani nation.
Please raise your hands to pray for SHOHADA and their families.

May Allah rest their soul in peace and give them the highest place AAMEEN

 

[waraich66]

Not many people know the story about Huzaima Amin --- 17 year old boy who basically saved Vice COAS (retd.) Youssuf by pushing him away from the shooters prior to when they threw grenades.

He is the son of a Brig. who, Alhamdolillah, was lucky not to suffer same fate as the less fortunate ones.

I do get SOME comfort knowing that those who were killed at least they didnt die in vain during middle of Juma Namaz. I feel in some way that could be direct flight to jannat, which is a much better and more peaceful place.

No doubt , All shudah are alive and living in Janat

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Am back in Pesh. but earlier today I ventured out to the Masjid....I never get emotional, but to see the state of the Masjid was very difficult moment.

All the damage, and the smell of blood of martyrs in the air.

Enemies of this country will never succeed in their ulterior motives. Everybody in Pindi and all Pakistan is affected by the tragedy but by God enemy will feel our wrath.

This is a promise. We keep our promises.

 

[Bhaarat]

Not many people know the story about Huzaima Amin --- 17 year old boy who basically saved Vice COAS (retd.) Youssuf by pushing him away from the shooters prior to when they threw grenades.

He is the son of a Brig. who, Alhamdolillah, was lucky not to suffer same fate as the less fortunate ones.

I do get SOME comfort knowing that those who were killed at least they didnt die in vain during middle of Juma Namaz. I feel in some way that could be direct flight to jannat, which is a much better and more peaceful place.

hmm...just a doubt. What about the perpetrators? They were also muslim, they were waging a jihad, they died in its cause. Will they go to Jannat as well?

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

hmm...just a doubt. What about the perpetrators? They were also muslim, they were waging a jihad, they died in its cause. Will they go to Jannat as well?

Stop putting fuel on the fire , are you TTP lawyer or some thing

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

hmm...just a doubt. What about the perpetrators? They were also muslim, they were waging a jihad, they died in its cause. Will they go to Jannat as well?

based on my assesment, probably NOT.

They think they are waging jihad. They're just waging jahhalat

 

[Bhaarat]

Stop putting fuel on the fire , are you TTP lawyer or some thing

Well, I can understand your anguish and you have my sympathies, but lets not get lost in emotions.

Yes, I support and sympathise with TTP(of course, I wouldnt want them in my country).

 

[Bhaarat]

based on my assesment, probably NOT.

They think they are waging jihad. They're just waging jahhalat

Buddy, I wanted some religious figure's assessment. I know you are a military proffessional, so obviously, you hate them. But I wanted some neutral religious figure's assessment about the jihad waged by TTP. Did any religious figure condemn the attack on masjid?

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Well, I can understand your anguish and you have my sympathies, but lets not get lost in emotions.

Yes, I support and sympathise with TTP(of course, I wouldnt want them in my country).

if you are so queries about Islam why don’t you go and ask a Islamic scholar and India has thousands of their own.

 

[TalibanSwatter]

self-deleted.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Buddy, I wanted some religious figure's assessment. I know you are a military proffessional, so obviously, you hate them. But I wanted some neutral religious figure's assessment about the jihad waged by TTP. Did any religious figure condemn the attack on masjid?

every one is Afraid of their life
Anti-Taliban cleric among four killed, 10 injured in a suicide attack in Lahore. The blast occurred right after the Friday prayers finished at the Jamia Naeemia mosque.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...-lahore-ss-02?pageDesign=new_mg_wht_detail6-2

 

[Barrett]

From The News : The News International - No. 1 English Newspaper from Pakistan - Sunday, December 06, 2009

The Archive gives only a general Link. The Article is not linked. You can check in the “Top Stories” section of The News for 23-12-2008

If Indians attack Taliban to fight alongside Army: Mahsud

Tuesday, December 23, 2008

By Mushtaq Yusufzai

PESHAWAR: Baitullah Mahsud, central head of the banned Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Monday announced full support to the army against archrival India if it makes any aggression against the country.

“Thousands of our well-armed militants are ready to fight alongside the army if any war is imposed on Pakistan,” Baitullah told this correspondent on telephone from an undisclosed location.

He said the time had come to wage a real jihad they had been waiting for. “We know very well that the visible and invisible enemies of the country have been planning to weaken this lone Islamic nuclear power. But the “mujahideen” will foil all such nefarious designs of our enemies,” said the top militant commander. Baitullah, who is accused by the government of his alleged involvement in assassination of Pakistan People’s Party chairperson Benazir Bhutto in Rawalpindi on December 27 last year, said he wanted to assure the nation, government and army that they should not worry about Pakistan’s western borders with Afghanistan as, according to him, thousands of his armed fighters had already been deployed to safeguard the strategically important frontier.

Besides thousands of armed militants, Baitullah Mahsud said, hundreds of would-be bombers were Monday given suicide jackets and explosives-laden vehicles for protection of the border in case of any aggression by the Indian forces. “Our mujahideen would be in the vanguard if fighting broke out. Our fighters will fall on the enemy like thunder,” he declared.

The militant commander maintained that many a people might say the militants had been fighting the army since long, how it would be possible for them now to fight alongside them. “Therefore, I want to make it clear that the army was acting otherwise. But now it would fight for the protection and survival of the country, which is why we will support them,” he said. Baitullah said that Taliban were ready to fight under the Army command. But it would be better for the armed forces to give them a separate sector or specify special targets for us where they could fight the enemy in a fitting manner.

I hope this will suffice.

Are you people really that naive or is it the same pretentious attitude that you learn from your corrupt leaders ?

When at the same time these animals led by baitullah mehsood and now hakim-ullah mehsood have brought havoc upon the Pakistani nation, bombing mosques killing innocent children and getting sophisticated weapons from unknown sources are destabilizing the country to the fullest of their capabilities, claim about defending the country and you take them seriously ? they want to fight alongside the same men who they kill everyday ? this is just absurd and anyone taking them seriously is either aware of their motives or completely ignorant.

Why aren't they attacking the American supply lines and their installations in Pakistan so frequently ? If it was really the drone attacks they were worried about, everyone knows these drones fly from Shamsi Air base near Quetta not the mosque that was attacked.

They claim to attack civilians because we support the govt who is supporting the NATO forces in Afghanistan, following the same ideology the Afghan Govt completely supports the NATO forces in Afghanistan, people of Afghanistan have voted for Karzai so why aren't the mosques attacked there? why aren't these mosques built by "munafkeen", why are the civilians of Afghanistan not under attack? What is the reason for the Talibans in Afghanistan to have disowned them time and again ? If the Afghan Talibans are not supporting them then the only other forces left to have the capability is either the NATO or the Indians present alongside the border.


All these questions are very conveniently ignored.