Bismillah to be dropped from (Bangladesh) Constitution

[fallstuff]

So you are supporting tyranny of the majority in bangladesh? Thats what adding bismillah to the constitution means, no?

Christmas is a holiday in USA, Eid is not. I don't lose sleep over it.

 

[Spring Onion]

It's not banned in Kerala, West Bengal and several north-eastern states.

if its banned even in one part of India it is against Secularism.

similarly ban on free conversions in some parts of India is also against secularism so how come you guys can speak about secularism

 

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

Thank you very much. a Hindu bharati making fun of Bismillah is more offensive and reportable.

You are violating so called secularism and jumping here calling Islamic beliefs as stupid shows your own stupidity

well said jana , actually they are hypocrites in very best form.
look they even cann,t keep their religion away from cartoons stories for children and they proudly present it but ever ready to criticize us on even very minute things. and if we reply them , they finds it very offensive.

 

[LaBong]

if its banned even in one part of India it is against Secularism.

similarly ban on free conversions in some parts of India is also against secularism so how come you guys can speak about secularism

It's banned because it's offensive to large number of people in India, just as cartoons depicting Prophet Mohammad is banned in India.

Like I said before, Muslims are not religiously bound to kill cows. Freedom of profess and promote religions is absolute in India.

Forceful conversion is illegal in some states.

 

[fallstuff]

if its banned even in one part of India it is against Secularism.

similarly ban on free conversions in some parts of India is also against secularism so how come you guys can speak about secularism

This is news to me. I would very much appreciate if you could elaborate more.

 

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

look we have nothing to do with bangladesh what ever they do or don,t.
because it is up to bangladeshi people to react or accept.
but who are indians to point any thing that is very basic tenet of ISLAM.
don,t they have sense or manners not to interfere or comment about some thing of which they don,t have any knowledge.
we are not criticizing to all indians but only those who objected some thing about they don,t have any knowledge and they tried show it as some thing ridiculous.

 

[Al-zakir]

eastwatch how do the elected reps take oath? and what is the oath taking procedure in courts ?

All state activity must start with Tilawat e Quran and Bismillah. This basic Islamic principal preserve during BNP regime however Al being party of Munafiq doesn't always follow.

 

[integra]

Foolish and unnecessary move. This will create violence among the common citizen. Heck this will even create divisions among her own Party. This is a 88% Muslim dominated country, still we are liberal and there were no riots in recent history(40 yrs). If we become economically strong than the environment will become secular by itself that doesn't mean the constitution has to be changed. Even if that's done she's OUT OUT and OUT!

 

[Skies]

I had to lost a big post that I made with big effort, because of as soon as I pressed the submit button I saw the thread was closed. Why we have to suffer for Bharati trollers?

Anyway, the contains was in brief:

1. Non-Muslims need not to say Bismillah. They can recite according to their faiths or skip.

2. Removing Bismillash is equivalent to ignoring the faith of max people. This is not I am talking about only, rather many peaceful BD-people would thing in this way, and division in people will happen automatically.

3. Indians are saying why Bismillah is important. In country like BD, if AL plays with max people's faith then conflict is obviously and inevitable due to our nature. We were divided in 1947 for our divided faith. This were our nature and still it is. We are moving ahead peacefully and progressively with our current faith. If our faith, religion and current constitution would hinder our progress then we could have thought about removing Bismillah from our constitution.

4. Why Indians are giving us their unnecessary and unwise thoughts? Do we need these? Why Indians are talking anything worthless without having proper understanding of our religious and social values that made us superior than Bharaties perceivably?! If their thoughts and theories would be superior than us then we would seek ideas to them. Do our values and faiths are hindering our life and progress? Then why we would need to adopt Indians' thoughts to bring divisions in us?

5. Our faith is our force. Our faith is: reciting Bismillah would bring better result to us. We no need to change that.

 

[EastWest]

I had to lost a big post that I made with big effort, because of as soon as I pressed the submit button I saw the thread was closed. Why we have to suffer for Bharati trollers?

Anyway, the contains was in brief:

1. Non-Muslims need not to say Bismillah. They can recite according to their faiths or skip.

2. Removing Bismillash is equivalent to ignoring the faith of max people. This is not I am talking about only, rather many peaceful BD-people would thing in this way, and division in people will happen automatically.

3. Indians are saying why Bismillah is important. In country like BD, if AL plays with max people's faith then conflict is obviously and inevitable due to our nature. We were divided in 1947 for our divided faith. This were our nature and still it is. We are moving ahead peacefully and progressively with our current faith. If our faith, religion and current constitution would hinder our progress then we could have thought about removing Bismillah from our constitution.

4. Why Indians are giving us their unnecessary and unwise thoughts? Do we need these? Why Indians are talking anything worthless without having proper understanding of our religious and social values that made us superior than Bharaties perceivably?! If their thoughts and theories would be superior than us then we would seek ideas to them. Do our values and faiths are hindering our life and progress? Then why we would need to adopt Indians' thoughts to bring divisions in us?

5. Our faith is our force. Our faith is: reciting Bismillah would bring better result to us. We no need to change that.

really !!!

So u r superior to us...???in what way..may i know..

u insult us saying tat since we dont follow Islam we are inferior to u and u expect us not to respond to u...

 

[Awesome]

Unless there are no better (lack of) secularism issues remaining in Bangladesh, does this really seem like a wise way to move forward?

They will make a non-issue into a big issue.

 

[EastWest]

Unless there are no better (lack of) secularism issues remaining in Bangladesh, does this really seem like a wise way to move forward?

They will make a non-issue into a big issue.

It will be a big issue if ppl make it one...
Otherwise in what way is it going to affect ordinary Bangladeshis..?
Its not going to make their economy fall...nor is it going to make their economy rise..
Its not going to make their faith weak either as being perceived by Bangladeshis and pakistanis here..

And coming back to public outcry against this move...only bangladeshi internet warriors over here are going gung-ho about this..AL has gud base over in Bangladesh..and it does not matter to them what pakistanis, indians or even Bangladeshi internet warriors claim...

 

[Md Akmal]

@ A bhai, why you people are shouting about "Bishmillah" ? This was there in our constitution for the last 37 years and nobody questioned ! Now great AL has come to power, they want to change it. Now, if we change it , it will have a bad impression among the muslims countries. We should remember till 1975 except Pakistan non of the major muslim countries recognised us. Today we are standing on our own foot due to the economic help of muslim countries. It was not the India or Russia who helped our economy for the last 37 years. Rather we became a bottomless basket. In 1974, during the famine, India and Russia did not helped us and people says around a half a million people died. India as a giant country never came rather it was they who crippled our economy in those days . They suck our blood by issuing fake notes, smuggling, burning our raw jute godowns, destroying our industries and what not and today they claim that they are our best friend. Even I use to take food from "Langer Khana" in those days in order to save our meals.

@ This "Bismillah" has lot of "Barkat" in our life. Some people are arguing that if "Bismillah" is placed than the minority will feel offended, my foot !!!! It is this 86% muslims who struggled and voted for the separated homeland for the muslims of East Bengal in 1946.

 

[Md Akmal]

@ Now see great secular Abir has appeared on the screen to counter me.

 

[fallstuff]

It will be a big issue if ppl make it one...
Otherwise in what way is it going to affect ordinary Bangladeshis..?
Its not going to make their economy fall...nor is it going to make their economy rise..
Its not going to make their faith weak either as being perceived by Bangladeshis and pakistanis here..

And coming back to public outcry against this move...only bangladeshi internet warriors over here are going gung-ho about this..AL has gud base over in Bangladesh..and it does not matter to them what pakistanis, indians or even Bangladeshi internet warriors claim...

You are a claiming to be self described expert about BD politics. Please explain in details how "gud" the AL base is ?