Big Announcement by Afghan Ambassador on CPEC

[Deepika Maheshwari]

It's not as if you guys are thankfull for all the favours we are doing for you now let alone CPEC. Allowing you guys to come in our country for health , education and business. Allowing your country to transit through torkham , investing $500 million in afghanistan by building universities and hospitals.

Consider all this a favour because we are doing it for people who pretty much hate our guts and there are Pakistan murdabad rallies every now and then .

We know the feeling. A certain state in our country behaves similarly, even though we give them all the aid and freebies.

 

[RoadRunner401]

The projects benefits from CPEC connecting to AF

Please enlighten me, how would this benefit Pakistan.

 

[Bratva]

I think Ghani and Abdullah bent backwards to solve this issue for a year or two now because they understand the importance of security, but its GHQ that has not put a leash on her proxies and they are continuing with the Burka offensive for second year in a row though GHQ provided written assurances that if Talis don't come negotiation table they will be put on leash.

Words must be put to action.

Who leaked Mullah Umar death news to the world that caused collapse in Peace initiatives ? How many times you have to lie with straight face regarding Northern Alliance not sincere with the Pashtuns and wants to see them weaken so they dont dominate Afghanistan

 

[New Resolve]

Very fast way to smuggle their national product(Heroin) to world markets.

 

[A-Team]

So according to you the war in afghanistan is somehow related to the us supporting proxies in afghanistan and its aftermaths?its true to a certain extent only. We have been supporting them since late 70's . Lets have a look.

80s Afghan jihad war (Millions die) = Peacefull decade for Pakistan Security wise.

90s Civil war taliban take over = Peacefull decade for us again.

2001-2007 Afghanistan in turmoil = Signs of Cracks appear in Pakistan when we went full scale on lal masjid.

2008-2013 Afghanistan in turmoil = For the first time in history Pakistan faces a bad security situation.

2015-2016 Afghanistan suffer worst civilian casualities in history = On our side relative peace with only 300 lives lost .

While it does affect but not to an extent that you claim. We had peaceful 3 decades when your country was in turmoil. Pakistan is again stable , while you experience your worst civilian casuality rate.

Long story short your leaders are incompetent in dealing with terrorism. Too busy fighting with each other while we got Raheel sharif and he wiped everything out. So your theory of us supporting proxies in afghanistan and getting a blowback is wrong as evident by history. We got a blowback from Lal masjid operation and Musharraf sending troops in FATA in 2004-05.

Pakistan has always been a peaceful country security wise apart from 2008-2014 era. Thanks to zarb e azb peace has prevailed again. Pakistan just celebrated Independance day like there was no tommorow with millions taking to the streets.

Every country has its own interests . Pakistan being a regional power has alot of them. No insurgency survives without support. America has done it , India does it , Russia does it and Pakistan is no different. Any country with an influence and Power like Pakistan will indulge in Dirty politics for its aims. Its no different to any other country.

Peace prevailed Quetta where hundreds got massacred say that to their families.

In your logic, then Afghanistan is just returning the favor.

For a start, Pakistanis should start to see Afghanistan as a normal neighbor not an arch enemy or a support base for India. The Ghani tried to normalize the relationship despite resistance from Northern Alliance but instead of helping him rebuild the bilateral relationships, we allowed him to slip back to India's lap.

There you go, that is the bottom line. But alas the jernals in the GHQ seem to think otherwise which beats me.

 

[hussain0216]

Peace prevailed Quetta where hundreds got massacred say that to their families.

In your logic, then Afghanistan is just returning the favor.



There you go, that is the bottom line. But alas the jernals in the GHQ seem to think otherwise which beats me.

Terrorism in Pakistan is greatly reduced, our economy is growing

Afghanistans problems are just beginning

 

[Khan_21]

Peace prevailed Quetta where hundreds got massacred say that to their families.

In your logic, then Afghanistan is just returning the favor.

In 2013 we had 2500-3000 civilian casualities. In 2016 we have around 350-400.You are not going to go from 2000 to zero in one year. We have reduced terrorism by 80 % and the world is recognizing it. So much that now Europeans are sending their forces to get trained here.

World is Recognizing Pakistan as the next big thing now.

Best performing stock exchange

http://nation.com.pk/business/13-Jul-2016/pakistan-stock-market-best-in-asia-bloomberg

Just got promoted to MSCI emerging market index

http://thediplomat.com/2016/07/paki...g-market-in-2016-while-china-didnt-heres-why/


https://www.techjuice.pk/pakistan-is-a-star-pick-for-foreign-investments-the-wall-street-journal/

All this when CPEC hasn't kick started yet.

Before 79 afghanistan was actively trying to destabalize Pakistan through pashtunistan movement and inciting trouble in FATA. Like i said back then you guys were stable and had the means to fund it. Any country with a little ounce of influence or power will use it to her own benefit. Now you cant because you are in a big mess so GHQ is the big evil wolf for you.

I personally dont support any taliban. Or killing of anyone anywhere. But it is how it is.

 

[shah1398]

What they need to build is an integrated logistics center and dry port with customs facility near the border with Pakistan and manage it like a free zone. Given the incompetency of Afghan government they can privatize this port. And link it to CPEC by truck and rail.

Exactly. But I wud rather call it unwillingness rather than incompetency. Can we really expect that current NA Afghan Govt wud take any step to displease its master under whose influence it is just a puppet.

 

[idune]

Regional integration helps all sides. CPEC helps AF as well.



The bolded part of the statement is pretty much laughable You do realize that CPEC is a Chinese initiated project which aims for regional integration and is part of the bigger chinese project of connecting the entire region, The projects benefits from CPEC connecting to AF and then central asia, so its not like you are doing us a favor, but it is something that is inline with the overall vision of the project.

You are severely lacking reading and understanding capabilities. CPEC - first 2 letter of the initiative reads "China" "Pakistan". Meaning this project directed for China and Pakistan economic corridor; NO Afghanistan exist here.

China has other big project of OBOR which has "INTENTION" to connect Afghanistan with Central Asia predicated upon how Afghanistan acts. As Afghan stooge regime playing footsie with india and promoting terrorist act against other countries, Afghanistan remains security threat to entire region. There is no chance in hell anyone wants to connect to Afghanistan and become subject to indian terrorism export through Afghanistan.

 

[JamD]

International relations and economics aren't my forte but here's my two cents:

If Afghanistan says it wants to benefit from the CPEC then we have nothing to lose here (not even our tempers). Even if it is just talk we lose nothing.

If they are serious then they develop an economic relationship with us, and us with them. This economic interdependence is one of the advantages of globalization (with all its faults). And if you're afraid that this economic interdependence will be able to hurt Pakistan then probably no. Our plans don't pivot on Afghanistan's participation. In this day and age economic relationships are the most important and we shouldn't turn down a good deal, and this is a good deal. I am sure Pakistani planners also see it this way. There is no need to "punish" Afghanistan because surely it will be at the expense of some economic benefit, possible influence, and improvement in relationship. So let's not punish ourselves inadvertently.

Worst case scenario: we get the CPEC.

 

[A-Team]

You are severely lacking reading and understanding capabilities. CPEC - first 2 letter of the initiative reads "China" "Pakistan". Meaning this project directed for China and Pakistan economic corridor; NO Afghanistan exist here.

China has other big project of OBOR which has "INTENTION" to connect Afghanistan with Central Asia predicated upon how Afghanistan acts. As Afghan stooge regime playing footsie with india and promoting terrorist act against other countries, Afghanistan remains security threat to entire region. There is no chance in hell anyone wants to connect to Afghanistan and become subject to indian terrorism export through Afghanistan.

Makes me laugh how someone sitting in Bangladish or US projects complete knowledge of the region and of Afghanistan.

Never mind, you do realize AF is a US ally, you sitting in the US and calling it a stooge makes you look like one

/Peace be on you.

 

[idune]

Never mind, you do realize AF is a US ally.

US made Afghanistan a wasteland and land of mass killings and you call US an ally? Sheesh; even stooge like Karzai would not agreed to such blatant bs. First condition of being human is to understand right from wrong, does not matter if your family does the wrong.But you seems to lack that quality.

 

[Major Sam]

US made Afghanistan a wasteland and land of mass killings and you call US an ally? Sheesh; even stooge like Karzai would not agreed to such blatant bs. First condition of being human is to understand right from wrong, does not matter if your family does the wrong.But you seems to lack that quality.

Well US is ally as their living is dependent on US.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

US made Afghanistan a wasteland and land of mass killings and you call US an ally? Sheesh; even stooge like Karzai would not agreed to such blatant bs. First condition of being human is to understand right from wrong, does not matter if your family does the wrong.But you seems to lack that quality.

He's a puppet so what can you expect, the moment the US leaves Afghanistan his northern Alliance regime would fall in a matter of days and he knows it, besides the US/NATO would most likely never leave Afghanistan entirely, they got a good strategic location in Kabul to spread their influence in the region which is to contain China and make sure that the CPEC project doesn't come into fruition, because if it does China's liability on the Malacca strait would be forever lost, the US and the west doesn't give a sh-t about anyone's prosperity or stability, they only care about their own self interest and a prosperous and stable Pakistan as an ally of China and with billions of successfully invested Chinese dollars within Pakistan is totally not acceptable, they would do whatever it takes to make sure this project is not a success both with India and with this northern alliance regime.

Their are other factors involved here of why he is a pro US and Indian, you see the Northern Alliance regime considers almost half of Pakistan as part of Afghanistan, all the way up till murree, that is the reason why their border forces opened fire on us when we tried to build the Torkham gate on our side of the border and the reason why India have safe havens within Afghanistan to carry out terror attack inside Pakistan, a successful CPEC and a prosperous Pakistan would make it difficult for them to realize their malicious intents but make no mistake Pakistan is neither incompetent when it comes to safeguarding our own interests and neither blind to those who threaten us.

@A-Team @Chinese-Dragon @long_ @war&peace

 

[Pakistan First]

CPEC is a thorn in the eyes of many. There are gulf states, there's Iran and there's India. It is a venture of immense strategic importance and will be executed under all costs.