Best way to capture a city where enemy has mustered itself and self sufficient.

[Goenitz]

According to your opinion what is the best way to capture a city or strong hold of enemies, in modern times. Like german attacking Bulge or capturing Stalingrad. The conditions are:
1. Enemy is well fortified, has surplus supply and has the traps in city territory.
2. Enemy strength is its number, familiarity with terrain and local support.
3. Enemy weakness is its inferior or limited weapons supply. For analysis lets say enemy is one tenth of technically advanced/armed of invading forces.
4. Invading army can easily put blockade/siege of city or most of it.
5. Electric, water supply of city are in invasion forces' control but cannot block it easily (river, canal).
6. City has limited food cultivation, like they can survive long siege/isolation but with less nutrition diet.
7. City still has a population (though it is covered in public support point)
I will post my view point later. actually it revolves around one critical factor (perceived by me) which I want to discuss.
Hint: I heard it once but not sure of it. The tactic used by indian amry to attack hawladar Lalik jan post

 

[Butchcassidy]

By pass it, no city can be self sufficient for long. Supplies will eventually run out

 

[Nike]

rushing with bicycle down south and made buzz whiz along the way

@Nihonjin1051 @mike2000 is back

remind me with the fall of Singapore heh

 

[Goenitz]

By pass it, no city can be self sufficient for long. Supplies will eventually run out

you cannot engage for months, plus enemy can come out and harass you by attacking from any random direction and front.

 

[C130]

I woudl d ig a tunnel underneath such a city and blow it up with a few tonnes of TNT.

 

[Goenitz]

I woudl d ig a tunnel underneath such a city and blow it up with a few tonnes of TNT.

then what will you capture.. ? a stock of rubble

 

[Aepsilons]

rushing with bicycle down south and made buzz whiz along the way

@Nihonjin1051 @mike2000 is back

remind me with the fall of Singapore heh

 

[C130]

then what will you capture.. ? a stock of rubble

capture and occupy?? can always rebuild what's left.

 

[Aepsilons]

According to your opinion what is the best way to capture a city or strong hold of enemies. Like german attacking Bulge or capturing Stalingrad. The conditions are:
1. Enemy is well fortified, has surplus supply and has the traps in city territory.
2. Enemy strength is its number, familiarity with terrain and local support.
3. Enemy weakness is its inferior or limited weapons supply. For analysis lets say enemy is one tenth of technically advanced/armed.
4. Invading army can easily put blockade/siege of city or most of it.
5. Electric, water supply of city are in invasion forces' control but cannot block it easily (river, canal).
6. City has limited food cultivation, like they can survive long siege/isolation but with less nutrition diet.
I will post my view point later. actually it revolves around one critical factor (perceived by me) which I want to discuss.
Hint: I heard it once but not sure of it. The tactic used indian amry to attack hawladar Lalik jan post

1. Barrage the defenses with artillery

2. Full Frontal Assault

3. Policy of No Quarter; Exterminate the defenders, totally.

 

[Goenitz]

1. Barrage the defenses with artillery

2. Full Frontal Assault

3. Policy of No Quarter; Exterminate the defenders, totally.

I think its more of 4th gen of war... yes artillery shelling with drone assistance may help. As civilians are there (let me include that)..
Only infantry can capture then on full assault, but brick by brick. Modern weapons will stop any tank or amroured advancement which will lower the moral of strike force

 

[SipahSalar]

According to your opinion what is the best way to capture a city or strong hold of enemies. Like german attacking Bulge or capturing Stalingrad. The conditions are:
1. Enemy is well fortified, has surplus supply and has the traps in city territory.
2. Enemy strength is its number, familiarity with terrain and local support.
3. Enemy weakness is its inferior or limited weapons supply. For analysis lets say enemy is one tenth of technically advanced/armed.
4. Invading army can easily put blockade/siege of city or most of it.
5. Electric, water supply of city are in invasion forces' control but cannot block it easily (river, canal).
6. City has limited food cultivation, like they can survive long siege/isolation but with less nutrition diet.
I will post my view point later. actually it revolves around one critical factor (perceived by me) which I want to discuss.
Hint: I heard it once but not sure of it. The tactic used indian amry to attack hawladar Lalik jan post

Kind of contradictory especially when you relate it to Stalingrad. Soviets were able to supply Stalingrad appropriately. Battle of Bulge was a desperate haphazard attempt by German command to gain an advantage if negotiations started for cease fire. But everyone knew Hitler was never going to ask for a cease fire. There were numerous opportunities. Regardless of that, battle of bulge does not qualify as a siege.

 

[Goenitz]

Kind of contradictory especially when you relate it to Stalingrad. Soviets were able to supply Stalingrad appropriately. Battle of Bulge was a desperate haphazard attempt by German command to gain an advantage if negotiations started for cease fire. But everyone knew Hitler was never going to ask for a cease fire. There were numerous opportunities. Regardless of that, battle of bulge does not qualify as a siege.

yup... but russians number were higher... and I mentioned bcz russian losses were way more (so number saved them no tatctics). So what could german possible do for an effective assault or anyone in such situation. However the disparity between german and russian was not one tenth. So i agree those examples are not very relevant..

 

[SipahSalar]

3. Policy of No Quarter; Exterminate the defenders, totally.

Wow Nihonjin, that's the Nanking talking in you , just kidding.

 

[Aepsilons]

I think its more of 4th gen of war... yes artillery shelling with drone assistance may help. As civilians are there (let me include that)..
Only infantry can capture then on full assault, but brick by brick. Modern weapons will stop any tank or amroured advancement which will lower the moral of strike force[/QUOTE

I understand that. However, if this city was say the capital or the last remaining stronghold of the enemy, then raizing it to the ground would be a symbolic gesture of the attacker's military supremacy. Make an example of harboring the enemy, this should resound throughout the Empire.

The Policy of No Quarter stands. Exterminate every single living thing in the city. Submission will follow.

 

[Menace2Society]

Complete and utter annihilation through air strikes and daisy cutters just like what uncle Sam did in Afghanistan.