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RAW's biggest achievement was separating East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) from West Pakistan (now Pakistan) and creating a country known as Bangladesh, but East Pakistan was thousands of miles away from West Pakistan and India was in between us literally.


ISI should be given credit for keeping Pakistan together especially when we have a neighbor whose more than 8 times larger than us and hates our very existance.
 
^^ What's to prove? Raw sucks, they have consistently failed the country, they didn't see kargil coming, or any of the numerous terrorist attacks, they cannot kidnap/assassinate Daud Ibrahim, they're corrupt, they've been accused of harassing female employees.

Raw's only claim to fame is the separation of East Pakistan, and that too required overt military intervention.

The ISI is much better organized and far more effective.
 
1 - Chinese intelligence agency
2 - ISI
3 - CAI
4 - MOSAD
LAST AND THE WORST "RAW"

you are probably right only difference is Chinese Intelligence agency ?? Nobody knows whats the name , what are their succeses , failures , etc...cant really guage them....

RAW deserves the last spot....they are pathetic
 
1 - Chinese intelligence agency
2 - ISI
3 - CAI
4 - MOSAD
LAST AND THE WORST "RAW"


List the reasons why you put these agencies in their chronological order, specifically why is Chinese intelligence agency #1?

Also if you have not introduced yourself yet doing so would be good, thanks.


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P.S

About the Chinese intelligence agencies, I will say this they have been excellent at spying on US technological and military information, hardware, and more. They have penetrated US agencies and have gathered intelligence which has allowed the Chinese to reverse engineer effective military hardware.

Also the Chinese hackers hack US banks and US government computers acquiring sensitive information.

So in their defense they do seem they could have the potential to be #1 after all...
 
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ISI is surely in top 10 i guess but raw:tdown: cannot be in top 20.
i imagine raw consists of bunch of fat people who just sit in office from 10am to 5pm then go home with goodies for their children and getting salary for that.:angry:

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Well not to long ago they (RAW) conducted operations within Pakistan, attacking the Sri Lankan team and ruining the Cricket games and Pakistan's opportunity to host the world cup in 2010...

Some of the attackers then fled back to India...Need I say more.

RAW may not be as efficient as ISI but they make their interferences noticeable...
 
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Well not to long ago they (RAW) conducted operations within Pakistan, attacking the Sri Lankan team and ruining the Cricket games and Pakistan's opportunity to host the world cup in 2010...

Some of the attackers then fled back to India...Need I say more.

RAW may not be as efficient as ISI but they make their interferences noticeable...

but how come you never got hold of any one of this fatty worthless agents after the attack.....neither you cd provide any evidence bout the involvement of raw.......buddy,this fat and always munching agents,aren't that accurate for sure!!!
 
but how come you never got hold of any one of this fatty worthless agents after the attack.....neither you cd provide any evidence bout the involvement of raw.......buddy,this fat and always munching agents,aren't that accurate for sure!!!

No evidence huh?

Here's some evidence.

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This is a special kind of rocket launcher it is a M72 Law Launcher. Notice how this is not the same rocket launcher used by the Taliban nor any insurgent or separatist group in Pakistan, they always use the RPG.

This let's you know this attackers were not your common Talibani (TTP) fighters, these guys were backed by Indian RAW who supplied them with this relatively more advance rocket launcher the M72 Launcher.


This M72 Launcher is not commonly sold in Pakistan's tribal belt or possessed by the Taliban.


Fess up! Indian RAW orchestrated terrorism in my country!


"but how come you never got hold of any one of this fatty worthless agents after the attack"-Jako

Our own security faults are to blame too, but from what I understand several attackers were captured at least 4, others escaped.

The attackers were not "fatty" did you even see the videos or pictures? They were quite in shape and trained by some professional agency, I can tell because of how they conducted their operation.


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Terrorist backed by Indian RAW, conducting terrorist attacks in Lahore against Pakistan and Sri Lankan team. March 3, 2009.
 
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One rocket launcher....bas?? That could have been provided by anyone,even from the black market..........if you had some good and clear evidence pakistan wd have surely approached the goi,about raw's involvement....which is not the case......brother,you give too much credit to raw for everything.......the men in the 2nd picture are yet to be caught......and i repeat,raw is a TRASH agency,capable of doing nothing,like we the indians say,and many pakistanis here as well.......Can such a agency do things this accurately!?
 
One rocket launcher....bas?? That could have been provided by anyone,even from the black market..........if you had some good and clear evidence pakistan wd have surely approached the goi,about raw's involvement....which is not the case......



Understand we have considerable evidence, and understand when an intelligence agency conducts an attack they try to blur the evidence.


"MASKED gunmen armed with rifles and rocket launchers attacked Sri Lanka’s national cricket team in Pakistan today – wounding six players and killing five police officers.

The officers were guarding the convoy of stars and officials as the team arrived at Lahore’s Gaddafi Stadium early this morning.

Witnesses said at least 12 men wearing body armour ambushed the coach carrying the players and several cars containing officials, umpires and journalists."

Source: Birmingham Mail - News - Top Stories - Five die in Pakistan cricket terror attack


I hope you understand that NO Taliban or miscreant groups in Pakistan wear body armor! Never! They will carry explosives and die in the attack, they never wear this grade of body armor!

Do you understand the fact they were wearing body armor suggest a level of sophistication to their operation. The same body armor is used by RAW agents and some in the Indian military.


This was not an attack by some miscreant group within Pakistan but a terrorist attack by RAW.
 
Understand we have considerable evidence, and understand when an intelligence agency conducts an attack they try to blur the evidence.


"MASKED gunmen armed with rifles and rocket launchers attacked Sri Lanka’s national cricket team in Pakistan today – wounding six players and killing five police officers.

The officers were guarding the convoy of stars and officials as the team arrived at Lahore’s Gaddafi Stadium early this morning.

Witnesses said at least 12 men wearing body armour ambushed the coach carrying the players and several cars containing officials, umpires and journalists."

Source: Birmingham Mail - News - Top Stories - Five die in Pakistan cricket terror attack


I hope you understand that NO Taliban or miscreant groups in Pakistan wear body armor! Never! They will carry explosives and die in the attack, they never wear this grade of body armor!

Do you understand the fact they were wearing body armor suggest a level of sophistication to their operation. The same body armor is used by RAW agents and some in the Indian military.


This was not an attack by some miscreant group within Pakistan but a terrorist attack by RAW.

ok,i understand what you want to say.........but what amazes me is that,this 12 guys just vanished in daylight after the attack........i don't know,but still think that raw is not capable of doing all this........anyways,different people wd have different views,same with you and me.......thanks and regards
 
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OK thant makes RAW no 1 then, agreed. This is so impressive, carrying out an attack in the heart of Pakistan on a foreign cricket team, killing so many security people without killing any cricketers or getting killed themselves and then running away back to India and arranging safe houses for the remaining pakistan origin agents in the JAMAT E ISLAMI well guarded headquarters - Mansera :)

They have infiltrated the most rabidly anti indian / mother of all terrorists / religious party in pakistan! Number one, nothing less :)
 
My uncle is a lawyer and was an ex ISI agent from from 1993 to 1998. According to him the CIA has the most number of successful operations under its belt all across the world, from Eastern Europe, to South America, middle east to Far east as well as central Asia but the CIA always deliberately emphasizes more on its negatives and shows to the world how incompetent they are for the enemy to undermine them..

Their success rate is ridiculously high which they don't like to show especially in destabilizing South America
 
Very Good thread. Mossad looks no1 to me. I don't know much about this so i am not sure. RAW anyway doesn't deserve 3 place.

Guy, Please...please....don't make any Agency No1 because of patriotism.This thread is going very fine...
 
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