Best BVR Capable Fighter in South Asia

[rockstarIN]

Since the Pressler amedment started working against us, Pakistani Engineers have been doing wonders. Infact our engineering achievements really stand out.

Never say it can't be done to a Pakistani Engineer

No under estimating, but US won't allow u to add this to JF-17 & old F-16s

 

[Trichy]

Both the MKK,MK2 have been flown in by PAF pilots..
data on both the R-77,R-27..and the AA-11 is present.
The Python 5 is a 5th gen IR AAM with BVR engagement ability..
And.. lets just say.. we have taken care of that part as well.. and Ill leave it at that.

on the bold part aspects, IAF will touch F-16 of Israel / USAF also

Both have a advanced version and combat history on it...

AIM-120C-5 you have with inferior SD-10, compare to R-77/R-27/Python 4,5/ DERBY...

F-16 C/D 18 + 18 JF-17 now 2010 with maximum 2 years experience compare to 125+ Su-30MKI + 69 MiG 29 + 4 MiG-29K/KUB + 100 MiG-21Bis + 8 Harries on 2010 with almost more then 2 decade experience...

 

[SQ8]

R u saying Pak engineers can add ARMRAMs to old Blk 15 F-16s?

For JF-17, i don't think it can be done as it requires US support for weapon integration.

It is going to be done.. the MLU ensures that.
The JF-17 is using the Chinese SD-10.. rumored to be able to match the R-77 in range..but since its not confirmed till it becomes operational.. lets leave it out of the equation.

As for the MKI's avionics.
the Radar is similar.. the ECM we had a hint of thanks to that probing incident back in 2008..
If you look at the blend of avionics..
the most interesting thing was the Radar and ECM..
The radar used in the MKI was evaluated by the Chinese for their MK2.. and they probably told us everything!!..

The problem was with the Israeli ECM..
during 2008.. the much publicized probing incident by the IAf was carried out supposedly by MKI's...throughout .. they were tracked..and the second they entered our border.. locked on by F-7's(using the grifo 7..and then the F-16..using the NON-upgraded APG-66)..(I dont know how many times I have to repeat this story..down NOBODY ever go through previous discussions.. ).. so either that jammer was not operational..or clearly ELTA's advertisement skills are better than what they are churning out these days..
Till that mystery is solved..
On paper.. as stated before.. the MKI is the best machine..

 

[Trichy]

Since the Pressler amedment started working against us, Pakistani Engineers have been doing wonders. Infact our engineering achievements really stand out.

Never say it can't be done to a Pakistani Engineer

Pakistani Engineer's may be standout but in this department US Engineer's OUT STAND your's...

bro if I am correct then one need access to source code to integrate other weapons with planes. You mean to say engineers have capability to modify source code. USA will commit suicide and PAF can make billions if they sell F16 source codes.

just tell him to come out of national pride into real world...

 

[rockstarIN]

on the bold part aspects, IAF will touch F-16 of Israel / USAF also

Both have a advanced version and combat history on it...

AIM-120C-5 you have with inferior SD-10, compare to R-77/R-27/Python 4,5/ DERBY...

F-16 C/D 18 + 18 JF-17 now 2010 with maximum 2 years experience compare to 125+ Su-30MKI + 69 MiG 29 + 4 MiG-29K/KUB + 100 MiG-21Bis + 8 Harries on 2010 with almost more then 2 decade experience...

You forget to add Mirage-2000, with Matra, now being upgraded with MBDA MICA IR/RF

 

[SQ8]

on the bold part aspects, IAF will touch F-16 of Israel / USAF also

Both have a advanced version and combat history on it...

AIM-120C-5 you have with inferior SD-10, compare to R-77/R-27/Python 4,5/ DERBY...

F-16 C/D 18 + 18 JF-17 now 2010 with maximum 2 years experience compare to 125+ Su-30MKI + 69 MiG 29 + 4 MiG-29K/KUB + 100 MiG-21Bis + 8 Harries on 2010 with almost more then 2 decade experience...

Whatever makes you happy.. Im not in the mood to duke it out with call center thickheads.

 

[rockstarIN]

It is going to be done.. the MLU ensures that.
The JF-17 is using the Chinese SD-10.. rumored to be able to match the R-77 in range..but since its not confirmed till it becomes operational.. lets leave it out of the equation.

As for the MKI's avionics.
the Radar is similar.. the ECM we had a hint of thanks to that probing incident back in 2008..
If you look at the blend of avionics..
the most interesting thing was the Radar and ECM..
The radar used in the MKI was evaluated by the Chinese for their MK2.. and they probably told us everything!!..

The problem was with the Israeli ECM..
during 2008.. the much publicized probing incident by the IAf was carried out supposedly by MKI's...throughout .. they were tracked..and the second they entered our border.. locked on by F-7's(using the grifo 7..and then the F-16..using the NON-upgraded APG-66)..(I dont know how many times I have to repeat this story..down NOBODY ever go through previous discussions.. ).. so either that jammer was not operational..or clearly ELTA's advertisement skills are better than what they are churning out these days..
Till that mystery is solved..
On paper.. as stated before.. the MKI is the best machine..

You really think that IAF is really fool enough to make MKI locked on by your F-7???with that bigger radar?

 

[silent hawk]

bro if I am correct then one need access to source code to integrate other weapons with planes. You mean to say engineers have capability to modify source code. USA will commit suicide and PAF can make billions if they sell F16 source codes.

We can reverse engineer

 

[rockstarIN]

We can reverse engineer

Software codes? come on man

 

[Trichy]

It is going to be done.. the MLU ensures that.
The JF-17 is using the Chinese SD-10.. rumored to be able to match the R-77 in range..but since its not confirmed till it becomes operational.. lets leave it out of the equation.

As for the MKI's avionics.
the Radar is similar.. the ECM we had a hint of thanks to that probing incident back in 2008..
If you look at the blend of avionics..
the most interesting thing was the Radar and ECM..
The radar used in the MKI was evaluated by the Chinese for their MK2.. and they probably told us everything!!..

The problem was with the Israeli ECM..
during 2008.. the much publicized probing incident by the IAf was carried out supposedly by MKI's...throughout .. they were tracked..and the second they entered our border.. locked on by F-7's(using the grifo 7..and then the F-16..using the NON-upgraded APG-66)..(I dont know how many times I have to repeat this story..down NOBODY ever go through previous discussions.. ).. so either that jammer was not operational..or clearly ELTA's advertisement skills are better than what they are churning out these days..
Till that mystery is solved..
On paper.. as stated before.. the MKI is the best machine..

thats' tell the whole story of SD-10...


and secondly the total incident is a foe by press, even ur president will tell that no incident happen like that. it remembers a proverb "In Sun, Make Dry.!"


f-7 grifo super comedy(is it a BVR PLATFORM & using which BVRAAM they use??? Care to explain that)...@best

If ECM is enabled then other aircraft have a false image than the original, dont believe just google for the Su-35BM ads in youtube by the Sokhoi itself, they show how a ECM works...

If any one tells first this or that, it cant be true...

 

[Trichy]

You forget to add Mirage-2000, with Matra, now being upgraded with MBDA MICA IR/RF

sorry yar they cant answer for that itself

 

[Trichy]

Whatever makes you happy.. Im not in the mood to duke it out with call center thickheads.

Ohh this the way to escape from a question raised by others?

PS: I noted for my further slaps now itself from you...

 

[Trichy]

We can reverse engineer

Oops i hear this first time to reverse engineer a code! may be it happens! Only in pakistan @ BEST

but i know that reverse engineer a missile and they write their own code i know till now... anyways tnx for this great info...

 

[silent hawk]

Software codes? come on man

Yes software codes. We have deciphered and modified source codes of a number of systems from various countries.

Do you think we could have done Lema integration without touching the software?

There is a lot Indians don't seem to know about capabilities of PAF.

Do you know what the picture on my AVATAR is ?

 

[rash2k2]

We can reverse engineer

sometime its better to keep quite than replying just for sake of it . You gave them a chance to make fun.