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Beneath Calm in Pakistani Valley Lie Signs of New Conflict

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MINGORA, Pakistan — Schools have officially reopened. Soldiers stand guard at checkpoints and have established a semblance of order. Many thousands have returned here to a town that is mostly intact, if still under a military presence.

But Mingora, a battle-scarred city in the Swat Valley, remains tense. Pakistan’s efforts to restore normalcy — a vital test of the government’s resolve to stand up to the Taliban — waver between fear and hope, leaving an enduring victory over the militants a distant goal.

Beneath the surface of relative calm, there is the sense that a new and more insidious conflict may be afoot, one that could take many months to play out before the fate of this once-prosperous region is ultimately decided.

On Sunday morning, a body, hands bound with rope and shot in the back of the head, lay on the sidewalk of a main road. A note pinned to the shirt and written in Urdu gave the victim’s, Gul Khitab, and said he was from Matta, one of the remaining Taliban strongholds. “Enemy of Swat,” it read.

Rumors abound of other bodies being dumped in the last two weeks, a signal that the army may be prepared to use extrajudicial killings to settle scores. A government employee, Murad Ali, who peered at the body, said he had seen three bodies, shot in the head, lying in similar fashion in the past six days.

Asked about the identity of the man, an army commander who stopped to look, and then moved on, said with a grin, “Maybe a bad guy.” A military spokesman, Maj. Nasir Khan, said the army was unaware of the death and did not condone extrajudicial killing.

If no one knew precisely what to make of the body, it was a clear enough sign that the conflict in Swat was not over.

To the fear and frustration of those who suffered at their hands, the top Taliban leaders remain on the loose. Taliban fighters have melted away to the periphery of Swat or to neighboring areas, like Dir, leaving soldiers and civilians alike filled with dread of when — and how — the insurgents would return.

On Friday, warning shots could be heard, as jittery soldiers, worried about suicide bombers, patrolled on with hair triggers.

Three months after the Pakistani military began its offensive, many among the more than one million displaced have returned, expecting calm but still uncertain whether the military can guarantee it.

The failure to kill or capture Taliban leaders has left many here suspicious that the military is not serious about taking on the Taliban. To allay fears, the military has publicly presented four teenage boys who it says were captured by the Taliban and placed in a training camp with more than 100 other boys, all of them hostages.

The boys said they were lectured by a trainer on how the army was an “infidel” organization filled with “apostates.” The four boys said they escaped in less than two weeks.

For the moment, the military’s presence is tolerated. But the fact that soldiers are holed up in schools — the prestigious Sarosh Academy is being used as a prison for Taliban militants — does not make people happy, either.

The western part of the city remains barricaded. The many requirements to secure the peace — functioning courts and other government services — seem months away.

“One year — we’ll be lucky if we get this under control,” Atif ur-Rehman, the district coordinating officer who is one of the senior government officials in Swat, said in the garden of his residence on a hill above the town.

Mr. Rehman, the point man for foreign donors who are beginning to line up with plans for reconstructing Swat, said the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank were assessing needs based on the damage to buildings, roads and bridges after two years of periodic fighting between the militants and the army, and the three-month offensive.

The United Nations planned to help restore health and education services. The United States Agency for International Development had also offered to help.

“Their mode of working is slower than the government of Pakistan,” Mr. Rehman said of his meeting with officials at the American agency.

Whether these foreign aid programs can be done fast enough to satisfy the people who are most vulnerable to the lure of the militants is a pressing concern.

At Takhtaband, an impoverished area on the edge of Mingora, Rahim Khan described two aerial strikes by the Pakistani military around 5 p.m. on May 15, at a playground where children were playing cricket.

The strikes killed 27 people, including his mother, father and eight children, Mr. Khan said. The second raid came as relatives picked up the wounded and the dead from the first attack, Mr. Khan said.

Nearby, as he spoke, a skull was lodged in a crevice among the broken bricks, and from the smell it seemed likely that bodies were still strewn beneath them.

The strike was apparently intended for an adjacent farm that was used by the Taliban, Mr. Khan said. The farm was untouched by the attack, though six or seven Taliban were also killed in the strikes, he said.

The most bitter experience, he said, was dragging 12 of the most seriously wounded on a harrowing two-day walk to a hospital in Malakand. Some were carried on the backs of men, and others were put in wheelbarrows, he said. Six of the 12 later died, he said.

The May 15 date described by Mr. Khan corresponds to official army reports, made May 18, that heavy fighting was under way in the Takhtaband area, and that two Taliban commanders had been killed.

For most of the 20th century, Swat was a place apart in Pakistan. It was run until 1969 by a hereditary ruler, and its natural beauty of cascading rivers, towering mountains and pristine forests drew wealthy Pakistanis.

The Pakistan Tourist Development Corporation hotel reopened two weeks ago. It still serves tea in pots covered by cozies and poured into flower-patterned china cups, one of the few genteel touches to survive the traumas of the last two years.

The owner of a copy shop, Jehangir Khan, said his customers now were mostly those applying for government compensation for damaged property. “Business is equal to nothing,” he said.

Would Swat ever be the same? “It’s difficult to see,” he said. “The government never takes care of its promises.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/03/world/asia/03swat.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ref=global-home
 
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Not to sound too cynical, but I have every faith that our government will once again screw it up.

The Pakistani government is so utterly and completely dominated by Sindhi and Punjabi interests that they neglect all other provinces.

We mistreated the Bengalis and they left us.
We mistreated the Balochis and they want to leave us.
We mistreated the Pashtuns and they support the Taliban.

At some point, Pakistan has to define a national identity that transcends the Punjabi/Sindhi ethnic focus.
 
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Dude lets be real here..Pushtoons are a huge part of our establishment..Don't give me that Punjabi Sindhi bullshit.There are huge number of Pustun Diplomats and Army Officers including Several Generals.In fact Puhstun have ruled Pakistan for well over a decade..and 4 Pushtuns Generals were COAS Of PAkistan Army..I see you people live abroad and don't know the reality and put your stupid comments.During General Zia' time Generals officers were full of Pushtoons.There have been Pushton Air Marhsals, Pushton COAS, Pushtoon DG ISI, Pushtoon JCOAS etc...Only people who are not in top spots are Balcohis and thats because of low number of officers of Baloch Origin in Pakistan Army.Are you saying all Pushtons support Talibans?Get your facts straight.I think rather you are a Taliban supporter and trying to say all Pushtun are talibans supporters.
 
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NY Times is a highly biased institution of global propaganda for those who are bitterly against us and people who want freedom and liberty for themselves. All you guys should do a boycott of this sensationalist BS maker organization when it comes to any news, because we can already predict what they will be spewing forth against us in any type of situation.
 
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Develepero

Easy - it's the NYT and they have made a business out of presenting scepticism when it comes to Pakistan and things Pakistani - easy, these pieces are crafted to create not informed criticism but to create distrust.
 
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^ I agree, though sadly it does reflect their deep ties through their "sources" with their friends who are serving us "Operation Blue Tulsi", they are well connected with each other on all things Pakistan against us my friend
 
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the nyt can make a smiling pakistani child into something to be feared if you go by their reporting. i mean they make such amazing leaps of faith in this entire article. for instance how do they know that the pakistani army is killing people extra judicially. this entire line in the article is pure speculation at best and unfounded rumors at worst. they keep on saying that no top commander has been killed but fail to mention shah durran who was the most cruel commander of the talibs. they fail to mention that mullah fm has not been heard in a very long time and that he has been injured.

Then they talk about the so called jittery pakistani soldiers and them firing warning shots. we should beware that if it were a suicide bomber then he would not only kill the soldiers but more likely would also kill the innocent by standers. This woman specializes in defaming the pakistani soldier and doubting his professionalism

i would again like to say that this entire article is nothing but rumors and hearsay and cannot be treated like a biased article actually reporting the news on the ground
 
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Jittery soldiers? Warning shots are a commonly used tactic by the PA when moving in convoys. Sorry US/NATO, but we don't have armored vehicles to provide all of our soldiers unfortunately, so we have to improvise. Hope this doesn't upset your sensibilities. :rolleyes:
 
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Dude lets be real here..Pushtoons are a huge part of our establishment..Don't give me that Punjabi Sindhi bullshit.There are huge number of Pustun Diplomats and Army Officers including Several Generals.In fact Puhstun have ruled Pakistan for well over a decade..and 4 Pushtuns Generals were COAS Of PAkistan Army..I see you people live abroad and don't know the reality and put your stupid comments.During General Zia' time Generals officers were full of Pushtoons.There have been Pushton Air Marhsals, Pushton COAS, Pushtoon DG ISI, Pushtoon JCOAS etc...Only people who are not in top spots are Balcohis and thats because of low number of officers of Baloch Origin in Pakistan Army.Are you saying all Pushtons support Talibans?Get your facts straight.I think rather you are a Taliban supporter and trying to say all Pushtun are talibans supporters.

I didn't say that Pushtuns don't contribute. In fact I said exactly the opposite -- Pashtuns are some of the most hardworking people in Pakistan. They do all the tough jobs that others don't want to do.

But Imran Khan, who is himself a Pashtun, says that the Pak army is 70% Punjabi. He also says that Taliban is a Pashtun nationalist movement, not a religious movement.

The fact remains that civilian politics in Pakistan is dominated by two families, Bhuttos and Sharifs, representing Sind and Punjab respectively. Both are feudal families (zamindars), which means we have zero chance of eradicating this evil, medieval slavery that keeps millions of our farmers in poverty. Both parties have deep support base from religious fundamentalists, which means there is no hope of controlling extremism.

Pakistan's civilian rule bounces between these two families. When Sharif is in power, Punjab gets all the benefits; when PPP is in power Sind gets favored. Meanwhile Sarhad and, especially, Balochistan get screwed no matter who is in power.

Ayub Khan, a Pashtun, was one of our best leaders. His five year plan for Pakistan was such a fantastic model that South Korea adopted it. Unfortunately, we didn't follow our own plan. South Korea copied our plan and see where they are now.

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was also one of our best leaders, despite some flaws. He was one of the few leaders who at least tried to forge some sort of national unity.

Our current batch of politicians are self-serving corrupt crooks who have no statesmanship and absolutely no long term vision for Pakistan. They can't even deliver results today -- electricity, education, law and order, ... Nothing. Not one thing!
 
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Well as usual american BS without knowing the facts.

Just to add a little bit, the recent killing of people in swat and hangings is the revenge of the local people on the taliban and its supporters, that is the reason if u guys have noticed that the surrendering of militants has increased nowadays, even local commanders are surrendering to the military authorities, because people know them who they are and where they live, local guys have given a lot of intel and now the people returning are helping the army out in identifying these people,a recent statement by the ANP leader who defied the taliban in swat Afzal Khan Lala, that we will take our revenge but now is not the time. People have realized that this time army is serious and they have routed them out to a very large extent, the small pockets of taliban will also be finished once people come in and start helping the military which is already happening. I have heard many instances where local people have helped the military or now themselves doing the same which these guys had done to them.

As for army extra judicial killings, there are no judicial killings happening, but there is something being done by the military but its not judicial killing. A mechanism has been devised.

Lastly, some videos for our american friends to see what their soldiers do and how they behave out of fear due to suicide bombings.

In the second video do see what the american does to a little puppy, its just an animal, if they have no feelings for even a cute innocent puppy, what do u expect them for muslims or any human being ???

And guys plz if possible show this to our distinguished neocon member S-2 about the role of his american buddies, specially the puppy part. I literally cried at the puppy throwing, americans are such cruel animals.


 
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Disturbing video US troops insane: American Hypocrisy

Do you have a version of the video which doesn't have that stupid 'islam' **** at the bottom?
Most non-muslims will turn off the video as soon as they see 'islam' at the bottom. They will never see the whole video.

Have you ever seen Israeli propaganda videos? or American videos? They never come out and put their name on it.

Why are muslims so incompetent and stupid when it comes to propaganda?
 
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Do you have a version of the video which doesn't have that stupid 'islam' **** at the bottom?
Most non-muslims will turn off the video as soon as they see 'islam' at the bottom. They will never see the whole video.

Have you ever seen Israeli propaganda videos? or American videos? They never come out and put their name on it.

Why are muslims so incompetent and stupid when it comes to propaganda?

Muslims dont have full knowledge of Art of propaganda
secondly they never targeted non Muslims in propaganda may be because majority of ppl useing it are frusturated fanatics who only want to kill by grossly genralizing and steriotypeing to full fill their loser side
 
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Do you have a version of the video which doesn't have that stupid 'islam' **** at the bottom?
Most non-muslims will turn off the video as soon as they see 'islam' at the bottom. They will never see the whole video.

Have you ever seen Israeli propaganda videos? or American videos? They never come out and put their name on it.

Why are muslims so incompetent and stupid when it comes to propaganda?

Well basically this video is a short version of clips of many other videos which are widely available on youtube without having any kind of islamic things in it.
Whoever made the collection of clips in this video emphasized on a link to the crap being said in this video.

This is most probably from an amateur guy, who has no training or sense of how to do propaganda, as expert may have done much better. Plus the writing doesn't means anything, the videos are widely available on youtube, the americans are visible, so are their actions.
 
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