Belgium Burka Ban: Diplomat Rips off Qatari Princess' Niqab

[Jungibaaz]

May i proffer a suggestion...I would personally think it would happen automatically when Muslims start treating non-Muslims as equals in their own countries. Stop discriminating against them. That would be the real trigger to change peoples attitudes.

The old days are gone when information was easy to control, globally people today read what happens in KSA, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq etc and they wonder about equality. Is it something that they must give and never get in return?

Those countries are out of our jurisdiction unfortunately, the best I can do personally is rant at Pakistanis through platforms such as PDF.

But here in Britain, the British Muslim population has evolved their own methods of pissing off and scaring locals, completely independent of what goes on in Pakistan.

British Muslims need to change their image, need to identify themselves as Brits who hold loyalties to this country. A massive collaborated effort is needed with good publicity, both to change Muslims themselves and change the public opinion of Muslims too.

 

[OrionHunter]

Shouldn't have done that. Idiot official. He should not be left off the hook. He should be prosecuted over this.

The West considers everyone else lesser souls. Nothing is going to happen to him. This asshole may even get a promotion!

 

[Contrarian]

Those countries are out of our jurisdiction unfortunately, the best I can do personally is rant at Pakistanis through platforms such as PDF.

But here in Britain, the British Muslim population has evolved their own methods of pissing off and scaring locals, completely independent of what goes on in Pakistan.

British Muslims need to change their image, need to identify themselves as Brits who hold loyalties to this country. A massive collaborated effort is needed with good publicity, both to change Muslims themselves and change the public opinion of Muslims too.

It is hard to change British Muslims per se without changing the hosts that British Muslims come from. You will notice that radicalization of Muslims is a global phenomenon, its not limited to one country or region.

So as the host bodies start to change, Muslims globally will start changing as well. If the Iraqi Muslims consider themselves superior to non-Muslims and are taught that it is okay to discriminate against others, they or their children will carry that same attitude when they migrate. Or even if born in Britain, the community will have strong links to that region and those British Muslims of Iraq descent will get exposed to such a thought process from a young age or from their parents.

If Indians start becoming more fundamentalist, it wont take very long for the British of Indian origin(s) will start displaying the same symptoms though to differing degrees.

The West considers everyone else lesser souls. Nothing is going to happen to him. This asshole may even get a promotion!

I disagree partially. They treat violation of their own laws on their own land seriously though they dont care about anything outside of their own lands.

 

[Jungibaaz]

It is hard to change British Muslims per se without changing the hosts that British Muslims come from. You will notice that radicalization of Muslims is a global phenomenon, its not limited to one country or region.

So as the host bodies start to change, Muslims globally will start changing as well. If the Iraqi Muslims consider themselves superior to non-Muslims and are taught that it is okay to discriminate against others, they or their children will carry that same attitude when they migrate. Or even if born in Britain, the community will have strong links to that region and those British Muslims of Iraq descent will get exposed to such a thought process from a young age or from their parents.

If Indians start becoming more fundamentalist, it wont take very long for the British of Indian origin(s) will start displaying the same symptoms though to differing degrees.


I disagree partially. They treat violation of their own laws on their own land seriously though they care if it happens outside of their own lands.

That's an undeniable truth. Muslims everywhere like to think that they are spiritually superior and their way of life superior, and their religion (or at least their understanding of it) is superior. Which adequately explains why they act badly to other sects and other religions.

Ego is the biggest killer of spirituality, and unfortunately, it's the Muslim's bread and butter. If we then apply this mindset to the UK, we have entire communities of Muslims who don't venture outside their homes or their circles, hardly any contact with people of other walks of life, which is a huge economic confinement too. Some young lads, disobey the law where it's convenient, their mindset leads them to believe that any law and rules outside their understand of their religion are wrong and unnecessary. So you are right, but I personally still feel it would be easier to change British Pakistanis than the mindset of all of those Muslim nations.

 

[OrionHunter]

I disagree partially. They treat violation of their own laws on their own land seriously though they care if it happens outside of their own lands.

Even ripping off her earrings in the process? He should have been charged for assault and outraging the modesty of a woman. Period!

 

[Contrarian]

That's an undeniable truth. Muslims everywhere like to think that they are spiritually superior and their way of life superior, and their religion (or at least their understanding of it) is superior. Which adequately explains why they act badly to other sects and other religions.

Ego is the biggest killer of spirituality, and unfortunately, it's the Muslim's bread and butter. If we then apply this mindset to the UK, we have entire communities of Muslims who don't venture outside their homes or their circles, hardly any contact with people of other walks of life, which is a huge economic confinement too. Some young lads, disobey the law where it's convenient, their mindset leads them to believe that any law and rules outside their understand of their religion are wrong and unnecessary. So you are right, but I personally still feel it would be easier to change British Pakistanis than the mindset of all of those Muslim nations.

Which is why the problem must get worse before it gets better.
Christian world had to go through the dark ages of intense hatred and bloodshed and bigotry and things got bad enough for regular folk to breath before the society started transforming itself to bring equality to each human.
Indian(Hindu) Society had to go through the worst form of social order - caste and oppression of non-Hindus - before laws were changed to make everyone equal and society started transforming (this process is still happening).

Similarly..the churn must happen in the Muslim world. And things must get worse before they get better. That is the basics of it. You would be better placed to understand how long that would take.

Even ripping off her earrings in the process? He should have been charged for assault and outraging the modesty of a woman. Period!

I am sure he will be. Their Government wont let him get away with it...and the Qatari lady will no doubt press charges.

 

[Kompromat]

Men still deciding, whats legal and illegal for females...welcome to 21st Century.

 

[Contrarian]

Men still deciding, whats legal and illegal for females...welcome to 21st Century.

It does not work that way in mature democracies. The constituents can get any motion blocked if they want. And the Parliamentarians are elected, not selected ie Gender neutral.

Those countries are not like India where Parliamentarians can ride roughshod over Constituents.

 

[waz]

The idiot should be charged for assault. The Qataris should take this to the highest level.

 

[MarkusS]

This women came to europe. We expect that our laws are followed. She broke our law. What he did was wrong. It would have been better to call police. Police would remove that stuff around her head and charge her with penalty money.

 

[paritosh]

I support Quilliam's efforts. Everyone should support them no matter what sect or religion they belong to.

I am a big fan of the work that they have done. How is Tomy Robinson fairing? Is he still with Quilliam?

 

[Jaanbaz]

I am a big fan of the work that they have done. How is Tomy Robinson fairing? Is he still with Quilliam?

No Idea about Tommy Robinson and what he is up to.

 

[C130]

gotta respect the law, princess or not.
just like if you go over to Saudi Arabia you gotta abide by their Islamic laws.

 

[livingdead]

No Idea about Tommy Robinson and what he is up to.

its all politics.. both tomi and the quilliam guy are joining politics..
nothing wrong with that though...

This women came to europe. We expect that our laws are followed. She broke our law. What he did was wrong. It would have been better to call police. Police would remove that stuff around her head and charge her with penalty money.

the guy is not a random dude, he is a diplomat.. how did he survive in other country with an attitude like that...

 

[MarkusS]

its all politics.. both tomi and the quilliam guy are joining politics..
nothing wrong with that though...


the guy is not a random dude, he is a diplomat.. how did he survive in other country with an attitude like that...

i see this womens illegal activity as worse