Beijing reaches out to Delhi to safeguard its interests

[KRAIT]

What foreign policy are you referring to?

Dealing with Afghanistan, China, Iran, US. Pakistan Foreign Policy is failing to balance all the nations.

 

[RazPaK]

Dealing with Afghanistan, China, Iran, US. Pakistan Foreign Policy is failing to balance all the nations.

We are playing our cards and winning a good amount of hands.

India: Keep away at an arm's length

Afghanistan: Will not tolerate hostile government

Iran: Starting slow with energy needs and bringing them closer to China

China: Good friend that we can trust

US: That one friend with muscles, but no brain. We told them 11 years ago how Afghanistan adventure was going to end and how to solve the problem. They didn't listen.

 

[arp2041]

By Seeing some pages of this (could be) good Thread, I think the Posts/Titles/Status here on PDF have all Lost there Sheen.

 

[KRAIT]

@Spring Onion

You don't share borders with US, but with India, Iran, Afghanistan majorly. All these countries don't want Taliban in Afghanistan and now even China don't want it.

Are you ready to go against all these countries for US ?

 

[Srinivas]

Two faced Chindian as I expected you're an Indian lover. Too bad you kiss up to those who will be bombing you in the future with Russian weapons, since they now have missiles that can reach inland China and Hong Kong you can expect a bomb to be dropped on your head in the next China-India war.

As for GoP everybody knows they are traitors just like you're a traitor to your own country for selling out to Indians lol. How much did they pay you? Was it dollars?

You are mistaken here, US and NATO motives are some what questionable in the on going WOT.

They came here to eliminate the terror sanctuaries and to reduce terror in Afghanistan region, After a Decade of war now the terror is at its peak and the terror sanctuaries and ideology is even more intense, Some of the Chaos is even spread to Pakistan and is threatening its existence .
Seeing what is happening to Pakistan, India and any other country in this region has to be careful and take measures to prevent this Terror plague from spreading to their home lands. Afghanistan is a pivot for central Asia where, the Terror emanating is a threat to China(Xingxang),India and other central Asian Nations.

The Rise of Asia can be controlled or Check mated by this Terror.

Similarly the rise of terror and sectarian groups in Pakistan is also a threat to India.

It is a wise thing for China and India to work for a better and Stable Afghanistan. In that note Chinese are too late in doing anything for Pakistan and Afghanistan. As the world watched these two nations descend into Chaos in the last decade.

The move of China comes in this scenario and That is the reason "India asked China why now??"

India and China should work together in this scenario after the withdrawal of NATO from Afghanistan in 2014. India and China should also be very careful about the things happening in BD.

 

[KRAIT]

By Seeing some pages of this (could be) good Thread, I think the Posts/Titles/Status here on PDF have all Lost there Sheen.

Leave it. It was because of other thread disagreement that got spilled over here.

We can now discuss the issue.

@Srinivas Good point brought buddy. Bangladesh is also one other country where we both have similar concerns.

Both have their vested interest in these countries.

 

[RazPaK]

@Spring Onion

You don't share borders with US, but with India, Iran, Afghanistan majorly. All these countries don't want Taliban in Afghanistan and now even China don't want it.

Are you ready to go against all these countries for US ?

Chinese are not stupid by any means. They may not want Taliban, but they will definitely deal with them just like they do with North Korean regime.

After witnessing Soviet and American blunders, I think they have most likely come to the conclusion that they have to talk to the Taliban not fight them.


We've been telling that to the world for decades.

 

[Spring Onion]

@Spring Onion

You don't share borders with US, but with India, Iran, Afghanistan majorly. All these countries don't want Taliban in Afghanistan and now even China don't want it.

Are you ready to go against all these countries for US ?

We share border with these countries and we also dont want to see India in Afghanistan that is damaging us simple as that.

We dont trust India at all we are not ready to lookafter Indian interests at the cost of ours.

As far the taliban are concerned they are Afghan citizens they have a right to be there and be part of the govt if Afghan people want them simple as that.
India or any other country is nobody to exclude them

 

[KRAIT]

Chinese are not stupid by any means. They may not want Taliban, but they will definitely deal with them just like they do with North Korean regime. After witnessing Soviet and American blunders, I think they have most likely come to the conclusion that they have to talk to the Taliban not fight them. We've been telling that to the world for decades.

Talk with Talibans and allow their ideology to grow ? Soviet attacked Afghanistan and US don't share with Taliban occupied regions. China already have problem with Islamic extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Why you are hell bent on keeping Taliban alive and involved ? Its a cancer.

@Spring Onion

You have other people to make relations in Afghanistan. Why keep relation with Taliban. Even Afghan people don't want it, neither all your other neighbors.

 

[Spring Onion]

Dealing with Afghanistan, China, Iran, US. Pakistan Foreign Policy is failing to balance all the nations.

All the bordering neighbours of India have problems with India so how does your one is balancing one?

You even went against Iran for sake of geting closer to US for sake of countering China.

SO why will China go allout with India when china has more clashing interests viz a viz India

 

[RazPaK]

Talk with Talibans and allow their ideology to grow ? Soviet attacked Afghanistan and US don't share with Taliban occupied regions. China already have problem with Islamic extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Why you are hell bent on keeping Taliban alive and involved ? Its a cancer.

@Spring Onion

You have other people to make relations in Afghanistan. Why keep relation with Taliban. Even Afghan people don't want it, neither all your other neighbors.

And who are you to kill off the Taliban?

They are the people of southern Afghanistan.

And what problems are the Chinese having with the so called Islamic extremists in Pakistan?

Cite an instance.


Taliban ideology can be amended and it has been proven recently, but only through talks not by force.

 

[Spring Onion]

@Spring Onion

You have other people to make relations in Afghanistan. Why keep relation with Taliban. Even Afghan people don't want it, neither all your other neighbors.

We had good relations with other people aka northern alliance people they were all together in first Afghan war and all were our boys . The equation got ruined by none other than entry to India )

the bottom line is NO a big NO to INDIA as far as we are concerned.

Rest you are free China is free any other country is free to have blocks as everyone has the right to protect own interests .

We have the key to strengthen any such block as far as this region is concerned and we are NOT ready to do so when it clashes with our interests.

 

[acid rain]

We had good relations with other people aka northern alliance people they were all together in first Afghan war and all were our boys . The equation got ruined by none other than entry to India )

the bottom line is NO a big NO to INDIA as far as we are concerned.

Rest you are free China is free any other country is free to have blocks as everyone has the right to protect own interests .

We have the key to strengthen any such block as far as this region is concerned and we are NOT ready to do so when it clashes with our interests.

Going by the article I assume China is not interested in a Pakistan backed Chinese economic or security interest in Afghanistan.

 

[KRAIT]

And who are you to kill off the Taliban? They are the people of southern Afghanistan. And what problems are the Chinese having with the so called Islamic extremists in Pakistan? Cite an instance. Taliban ideology can be amended and it has been proven recently, but only through talks not by force.

China Points to Pakistan in Xinjiang Attack - WSJ.com

Xinjiang militants linked to Pakistan groups: China | The Nation

Do you want me to post more instances ?

Having said that, China still thinks that Pakistan is very important ally, but they have their fair concerns. They are trying to keep this issue down but every country has breaking point where it has to change policy with allies too. Just like China is responding to North Korea.

Individual terrorists not to affect China, Pakistan relations: Xinjiang official - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Chinese are looked as another foreigners just like Russia, US. They will be treated as foreigners on their land and these extremists will get support from certain section of Afghanistan.

India has been successful in working in Afghanistan with very less backlash because we have very old ties with Afghanistan and general population don't took us as enemies. After Taliban, things got bad for India and Afghanistan relationship.

 

[Spring Onion]

Going by the article I assume China is not interested in a Pakistan backed Chinese economic or security interest in Afghanistan.

They have the right to disagree with us not an issue.

Going by the article one can have a question that how will India protect Chinese economic and security interests in Afghanistan when India itself cant protect its own ones there.